The first of the Sgt Pepper songs to be recorded, ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ was originally intended to be the b-side to ‘Strawberry Fields Forever’.
The song dates back to The Beatles’ earliest days. Paul McCartney had composed it on the family piano at 20 Forthlin Road, Liverpool “when I was about 15”.
Back then I wasn’t necessarily looking to be a rock ‘n’ roller. When I wrote ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ I thought I was writing a song for Sinatra. There were records other than rock ‘n’ roll that were important to me.
McCartney used to perform a variation of ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ on piano in the Cavern Club era, when The Beatles’ equipment occasionally stopped working.
‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ was something Paul wrote in the Cavern days. We just stuck a few more words on it like ‘grandchildren on your knee’ and ‘Vera, Chuck and Dave’. It was just one of those ones that he’d had, that we’ve all got, really; half a song. And this was just one that was quite a hit with us. We used to do them when the amps broke down, just sing it on the piano.
The song was dusted down in 1966, the year McCartney’s father Jim turned 64. ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ focuses on a young man anxiously looking towards old age; the vocals were sped up in the studio to make them sound more sprightly.
The music is suitably old-fashioned, with a music hall melody and an arrangement prominently featuring George Martin’s clarinet score.
I thought it was a good little tune but it was too vaudevillian, so I had to get some cod lines to take the sting out of it, and put the tongue very firmly in cheek.It’s pretty much my song. I did it in a rooty-tooty variety style… George helped me on a clarinet arrangement. I would specify the sound and I love clarinets so ‘Could we have a clarinet quartet?’ ‘Absolutely.’ I’d give him a fairly good idea of what I wanted and George would score it because I couldn’t do that. He was very helpful to us. Of course, when George Martin was 64 I had to send him a bottle of wine.
Many Years From Now, Barry Miles
Martin later regretted not releasing ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ as a b-side. Speaking about the ‘Penny Lane’/‘Strawberry Fields Forever’ single, he said:
The idea of a double a-side came from me and Brian, really… He came to me and said, ‘I must have a really great single. What have you got?’ I said, ‘Well, I’ve got three tracks – and two of them are the best tracks they’ve ever made. We could put them together and make a smashing single.’ We did, and it was a smashing single – but it was also a dreadful mistake. We would have sold far more and got higher in the charts if we had issued one of those with, say, ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ on the back.
Anthology
In the studio
On 6 December 1966 The Beatles recorded Christmas messages for the pirate stations Radio London and Radio Caroline. Afterwards they spent some time rehearsing ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’, before two takes of the rhythm track were recorded.
Two days later, without the other Beatles being present, Paul McCartney added his lead vocals to take two.
The song was then left until 20 December, when McCartney, John Lennon and George Harrison taped backing vocals, and Ringo Starr played chimes.
‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ was completed the next day, with the overdub of the three clarinets. During the mixing stage, meanwhile, McCartney decided that the song needed speeding up. On 30 December they scrapped all previous mixes and created a new mono one, which raised the key from C to D flat major.
I once ran into a lady who played piano at old people’s homes. She said, ‘Mr McCartney, I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve had to update ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ to ‘When I’m Eighty-Four’. Sometimes even ‘When I’m Ninety-Four’.’ Those people think sixty-four is rather young. I wrote ‘When I’m Sixty-Four’ when I was twenty-four-ish, so sixty-four seemed very old then. Now it looks quite sprightly.
The Lyrics: 1956 To The Present
The key was raised from C major to D-flat major.
Most composers prefer to use the enharmonic equivalent D-flat major because it has just five flats as opposed to the seven sharps of C-sharp major.
I hope that made any sense.
Yes, but C# is a brighter key than Db. I understand they’re tone for tone the same, but C# sounds brighter. It just does. (And so I agree that “When I’m 64 is in C#)
I don’t really understand what you mean. I know that C-sharp and D-flat are different keys, but since they sound exactly the same, why would one sound brighter than the other?
the word sharp sounds brighter than flat. The notes are the same.
How can a note sound brighter depending on what you call it, if its exactly the same note? lol this makes no sense to me. I understand fully what enharmonics are but your comment makes no sense.
It has to do with the tonality within the key, the direction and forward momentum of the chords and harmony within the song. It also depends on the instrument. There’s arguably less of a noticeable difference when a tune is played on a piano, where the player has no control over the sharpness or flatness of a given note, than when it’s played on, say, a violin, or a clarinet, where the player can “push” a note slightly higher or lower to make the resolution of a chord more satisfying. Or less.
If you need an explanation, you’ll never understand.
This debate about the key is ridiculous. It was recorded in the key of C. Then they sped up the tape, approximately 6% faster to raise it a half step. Do you want to explain to me how you can choose whether you are speeding it up to D flat or speeding it up to C sharp? Can’t wait to hear your explanation. This ought to be good.
That’s fine, but the track was sped up, not transposed. It was written and recorded in C, then altered later.
For the layman, it might be easier to understand if you refer to the key change as going from C major, to C-sharp. (in other words, it’s a half-step up, or for you guitarists, Capo on the first fret.)
It would be interesting to hear this track slowed down, so that we could hear how the Beatles actually sounded when they recorded it.
Paul’s vocals are entirely in the right speaker and the music is all on the left. You can kind of “do your own karaoke” with this song if you turn the right speaker off and sing along with the printed lyrics included with Sgt. Pepper!
That’s because the tracks were quite severely separated when the albums were remixed for stereo. Most of the lows were placed entirely in one channel, together with the vocals. Pretty poor stereo mixing but fascinating if you become interested in how the Beatles created and arranged tracks, as my friends and I did in the 80s. Not only do you get a particularly clear rendition of half the song, you also get to hear lots of bits of studio chat and noises that were buried in the mono mix. Gives you a bizarre sense of intimacy with the performers, almost as if you were there when it was recorded.
Mine is just the opposite. And yes, I took them off and checked. Backup vocals in the right, but Paul is in my left ear.
The only complete dud on Sgt. Pepper. John called it “Paul’s granny s**t”, and I agree with him.
Lennon also said “….one that was quite a hit with us.” , Do you agree with that as well?
It’s no trend-setting masterpiece, but it’s a very enjoyable, listenable, sing-alongable song. Well done, indeed.
i have to disagree with you Chris, it’s a good song and well worth it’s place on Pepper, as for John calling it “Granny S**t” i think you have to take that remark with a pinch of salt.
I have to agree that it’s a good song, but I think it would be better placed as a B side or on a less psychadelic album…Let It Be for instance
This would’ve made no sense on a back-to-basics blues rock album. It would have been best placed on the White Album, only because that album was all over the place.
I agree. The White Album for being all over the place for an endearingly everlasting, granny-s**t ditty.
It’s the bloody Beatles Sgt. Pepper album, it’s great, it sold, shut up. 😉
I’m not a big hindsight person, but maybe it could”ve made it as a B-side. On another note, how about “Hey Bulldog” as a single, with “Across the Universe” (wildlife version) on back !?…could have been a follow-up record to Lady Madonna.
I’m a clarinet payer. The key of C puts us in D (Bb instrument), Db puts us in Eb. C# would put us in D# – 5 sharps and 2 double sharps. It just wouldn’t work for playability. Db – therefore Eb – is three flats and is very manageable – especially since a bass clarinet could have played a low Eb at the bottom end.
This is a fine explanation, but the song was sped up, not transposed. The clarinet parts were written in D (sounding C). It only sounded in Db after the track was altered, not when it was being recorded.
John may have called it a granny song later, but man… how beautifully he plays the guitar on this.
That little diddly bit he plays around the end on the recording really gets me every time. Reminds me of his playing on Honey Pie.
I don’t know what drove John’s parade of negative reviews but if I discounted every Beatles song he disparaged there wouldn’t be much left. I’ve always liked this one and its placement on Sgt. Pepper. The character Sgt. Pepper appears to be someone for whom this style would be familiar, judging from his age (“twenty years ago today”) and the horns on the front cover. I can see the Lonely Hearts Club Band playing it in the town hall or on the commons, so in that way it’s one of the closest songs on the album to the supposed concept. And the Sgt. Pepper album seemed to be about blowing the walls off the limits on what a pop-rock LP should be. If “Within You Without You” belongs, why not this one? Musical variety is one of the things I love about the Beatles. This is such a great site– fun fun fun.
As much as he was admired, John Lennon was a disturbed man-child who misled a generation into turning our backs on God. Want to listen to a better anthem for your life? Try “I Can Only Imagine” by Mercy Me.
I GOT NEWS for you, it wasn’t John that misled us, it was unfortunately true when he said they were more popular than Jesus, it was a sad fact based on a culture of dead churches. period.
And I’m a Christian so don’t jump on your high horse.
Sorry to break it to you, but science and philosophy lead us to not believing in god
Sorry to break it to you, but science and philosophy do not preclude the existence of God.
God, you people can ruin a fun post the way you use it to air your personal grievances while contributing nothing relevant or worthwhile to the discussion.
Can it be, that this song I heard in the year 1960 in an other Version than the Version from the Beatles? I remember, when we dancing a quick-Step in the cancing scool in Duisburg, they Play this song or was it “Put your Radio on”?.
My dad is 64 tomorrow. We had a party today in which my sister and I played this on YouTube for him. The birthday greetings were dealt with earlier, but with great timing I produced for him a decent bottle of wine right on cue. I had to suppress my inner laughter at the start of the second verse “I could be handy mending a fuse”! The first volume of Lewisohn’s epic work will no doubt reference the song as Paul composed it “when I was about 15”. Mind you, he thought he was 12 when he met John in 1957!
Chris got it right. It belongs in the spot of olde brown shoe or only a nothern song which both would have made peppers even better. Don’t hate it, just not a fan.
I am turning 64 this month. I remember very well getting the Sgt. Peppers album when it came out in 1967, and learning to play “When I’m 64” on the piano in 1969 (when I taught myself to play the piano). The reason it took so long was because I didn’t get a piano until 1969.
It has been a long journey from 1967 to 2014, but somehow this song seems perfect for the occasion. So much has changed since then, including me. One of the best things in 2014 is that Paul McCartney is still around, making music. The Beatles are as popular today as they were back then. I can’t wait to buy Sgt. Peppers in the next format (beyond CD and DVD) when it comes out, because then I will have owned it in vinyl, cassette, CD, MP3 and whatever comes next.
When I heard this song for the first time, I was 16 and it took me into twenties immediately. At this time I loved rock’n’roll, but those songs of Sgt. Peppers, were innovative, experimentation. It’s funny “when I’m sixty four” sounds like innovation but for a teenager it really was.
And I thought 64 would never come. And it has come and gone but only a widow now with great nostalgia for the Beatles. Especially with my 10 year old granddaughter singing them in chorus. Oh the great memories with the Beatles!
I am 64 today and so is one of my friends. I am listening to it and will be playing it for her, just like I promised myself I would when it came out. Funny how when it came out, 64 seemed forever away, but here it is…..the Beatles have taken me through my life with much enjoyment and happiness. (Paul still hasn’t asked me to marry him 🙁
Is it me, or is the bass a mile out of tune?
Does anyone think that this lyric is a drug reference?
Doing the garden, digging the weeds
Who could ask for more?
I honestly don’t consider it a drug reference, but I read that that line is what caused BBC to ban the song from their radio.
(Rolling my eyes)………..I hate to break it to you, but not EVERYTHING is about drugs.
Vince if you are working class English and had a grandad with a love of gardening you wouldn’t need to ask my friend. I think my Grandad loved his gardening as much as he loved my gran 🙂
Doing the garden, digging the weeds, who could ask for more’
Plenty of 64 yr olds would totally agree with that line 🙂
I was 17 when this song came out and on my 64th birthday I played guitar and had the whole family sing along. It was fun. The following year my wife turned 64 and we did it all over again. Long live The Beatles.
Is it me, or is the bass a mile out of tune? asks whacko.
I am not sure but the indispensable Alan Pollack reckons the clarinets are flat in places.
FWIW I think its placement on the album is part of what makes the album the strange masterpiece it is. My own theory (and maybe not even original) is that the whole work is best read as a musical meditation on an Englishness that was undergoing massive change. Old values and social norms were changing and under threat from a generation experimenting with everything from eastern spirituality, drugs, new sexual freedoms and a questioning of received wisdoms. In that sense it is a period piece but somehow (and maybe here’s the genius bit) they made it universal in terms of time and geography in ways I am not entirely sure about. Nostalgia is maybe a key factor here…
This song is sort of a commentary on normal English life. Its lyrics would fit well on any of the Kinks albums from the mid 1960s.
I’m 64 today, and am listening to my original Sgt Peppers vinyl LP.
Am I the only one who hears Paul was using a different english accent when he sang “grand children on your knee” part?
Turned 64 yesterday and revisited the Sgt. Pepper album. It holds up well after near 50 years. Wondering if there’s any way to hear When I’m Sixty-four in its original key of C?
Did George sing the last vocal phrase “will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I’m sixty four”?
No. Paul wrote the song and naturally, he was going to sing the lead vocals.
No!!
I have tried to play “When I’m 64 on bass guitar in C# but that” impossible.
If you listen to the record, the lowest note is an D#.
The lowest not on a normal bass guitar is an E.
The only way to play it, is to tune the bass guitar 1 note lower so that the lowest note is an D#.
I find i strange that nobody else has noticed this before.
Kees Oosterwijk
I’m afraid you’re mistaken about the lowest note of the bass part. In the sped up key the lowest note is F#/Gb, or F in the key it was recorded in. It happens first on the downbeat of bar 3 of the intro and then most of the time the IV chord is played throughout the song. These are the first 3 bars, the slashes are rests:
Db / Ab / |Db / Ab / |Gb / Ab / | Db Ab Db / |
Has anyone considered possibly a deeper meaning in the number 64. It takes 64 tetrahedrons to make 2 octaves of geometric symmetry and was called vector equilibrium by Bucky Fuller, there are 64 outcomes in the icheng. According to the dead Sea scrolls it requires 64 articles to approach the arch of the covenant, 64 codeons in human DNA, fs is the basic number used in all modern day computing, so “will you still need me willl you still feed me when I’m 64”.
Yeah. That’s what McCartney had in mind when he wrote it……
The recording lies somewhere between C and Db. If you want to play along in C, you have to lower the pitch about 5%, rather than 5.95%. As Geoff Emerick wrote, Paul “…asked to have the track sped up a great deal – almost a semitone…” ( “Here, There and Everywhere,” p.137).
If you listen to Take 2 of this song on the 2017 deluxe version (free on YouTube), you can hear that the vocals (possibly overdubbed?), bass, piano, guitar, and piano are all live, so Paul could not have played bass and piano at the same time. Therefore, since it is generally considered that Paul played the piano and John the guitar, George was very likely filling in on bass, on 4 or 6 string; he was a decent bassist, after all. It seems too clean to have been John, though it’s not impossible. By ’67, Paul rarely played bass and vocals together live, and essentially never if the song was piano-based.
It is possible that the bass was overdubbed, but this seems extremely unlikely due to the guitar doubling the bass quietly for most of the song.
I’ve listened to the isolated tracks of the song on YouTube and it sounds like a second guitar is being played in unison with bass, like what you just mentioned, so this indicates that perhaps both John and George were on guitars while one of them played in unison with Paul’s obviously overdubbed bass, something that Ian MacDonald clearly failed to mention in his book.
Paul was now pretty much getting into the routine where he preferred to overdub his bass last, something that he was very, very good at doing. With your suggestion of George playing 6-string bass, it’s more likely that he would’ve done so on his guitar, because they didn’t have the Fender Bass IV yet, AFAIK, and Paul would very likely have overdubbed his Rickenbacker bass on top.
Sorry I forgot. I didn’t realize that there is a huge discrepancy as to whether either John or George or both were on guitars.
Whatever the source of George’s supposedly NOT playing guitar on ‘When I’m 64’, the playing is very Chet Atkins-like on the last verse, which is a style that George was pretty good at (hear him busking through ‘Windy And Warm’ on the Hamburg bootleg). John didn’t learn clawhammer fingerstyle until 1968, when Donovan taught him (which he used extensively, on ‘Julia’, ‘Dear Prudence’, ‘Octopus’s Garden’ and ‘Crippled Inside’, among others.) What’s the authoritative source of this lineup?
It’s funny you should say that, Blake – I am convinced that it was George playing the electric guitar, given the Chet Atkins fingerstyle that you mentioned as well as that George acknowledged Django Reinhardt as one of his favourite jazz guitarists.
On the last vocal verse, “will you still need me, will you still feed me, when I’m sixty-four,”
it sounds more like George Harrison singing as opposed to Paul McCartney. Am I wrong here?
Oh dear! there really are some daft people on this website who think such idiotic things. It beggars belief.
Yes you are wrong. Paul sings all the lead on the song. I really don’t understand how anybody could think it was George on the last line and why on earth would it be. It would not make any sense to have George sing just one line.
Paul wrote the song and Paul sings it.
Here’s the vocals for ‘64′ in the original speed:
On Youtube under ‘The Beatles When I’m 64 (original vocals)’
Here’s the song broken down into isolated tracks:
On Youtube as ‘Deconstructing When I’m 64 (Isolated tracks)’
Piano arrangement by Ken Hewitt in a ‘ragtime/stride’ style. Starts at around 2:28 minutes into video. Nothing wrong with your PC as the ‘special effects’ were part of the intro.
Ken Hewitt’s arrangement in the key of C—free download of the score here. Scroll down to the alphabetical listing under ‘W’:
Jason Zac arrangement in Db–