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You know you’re a hardcore fan when you’ve watched a number of different psychics attempt to contact John from beyond the grave and have studied the theories of time travel and wormhole manipulation to figure out what it would take to pluck John out of December 1980 and into our present day, hahahaha, who would do something that nutty am i right?

…..It’s me. It’s actually what I’ve been doing. Please help me, I can’t stop thinking about it. I want him back so badly and I can’t let it go 🙁

50yearslate said
It’s okay. He may not be here in body, but his spirit will never leave; he just got out of one car and got into another./utilcave_com/inc/ezcl.webp?cb=4  

ITS NOT OK! 🙁 HE WAS PLANNING TO TOUR IN ’81! PAUL AND HIM WERE FRIENDS AGAIN! HE WAS GONNA OPEN HIS OWN RECORDING STUDIO! 🙁

Getbackintheussr said
He also said he didn’t want to die at 40.   

HE WON’T HAVE TO ONCE WE INVENT THE FLUX CAPACITOR! 🙁

Ron Nasty said
Granted, but the wounds had had some time to heal by then. It’s not something you would have heard John say ’70 through to ’73, when their communication was down to sniping at each other in interviews and on the letters pages of Melody Maker and New Musical Express.

And the ’80s case went on far longer than the ’70s one did. One of the major rifts between John and Paul occurred when John discovered Paul had been buying shares in Northern without mentioning it, meaning he was earning more from their work than John was. I reckon John would have exploded when it was discovered during Apple suing Capitol over unpaid royalties (a case that was just starting up) that Paul had negotiated himself a higher royalty on Beatles recordings when signing with Capitol after their EMI contracts expired in 1976.  

A fair point. However let us also not forget that a lot of the vitriol from early 70’s Lennon (Which I call his “Angry-Lennon” period. Boy, was he ever! Any other period, fine, But if you saw him in that Army shirt, get the F*CK out of his way! ) was a result of his JUST breaking up from something which, lets be honest, had a major psychological hold on him. He was DETERMINED to break away from the “Myth” of The Beatles. Even as early as ’66 he wanted to leave and couldn’t force himself to do it. When he finally did, all that anger came flowing out. Let us also consider another big part of it: Paul used the break up to promote his album despite the fact that John had agreed to stay quiet for months about it. Douche move, Macca!

All of this, however, died down not ONLY because of the passage of time, but because of a few key factors:

– John was able to try recording his ideas on his own and found by about ’74 that it was harder than he thought. It humbled him a bit to the point where all he wanted to do on “Rock N’ Roll” was sing.

– He was able to re-evaluate his relationship with Yoko. Before, John was unable to really embrace the gentleness inside him despite talking a big game in ’68-69. Seeing how much he genuinely DID need her beneath the surface was perhaps the best thing to happen to him. No doubt near drinking yourself to death every night with Keith Moon of all people (I LOVE YOU KEITH! ) makes one remember who their true loved ones are and why the “Macho” part of himself–the side that argued and fussed over things–was better off forgotten.

– He was able to make peace with Alf…

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No! Not THAT Alf, silly! His father. Long removed from the days of the Primal Scream Therepy induced verbal butt-blasting John gave him, in ’76 he was at last able to mend things at least partly with his dad before his passing. Thanks in no small part due to a manuscript Alf left John. “All he wanted” John recalled, “Was for me to hear his side of the story, which I hadn’t heard….(The book) explains why he couldn’t make it!” – John sent him flowers on his deathbed and was able to talk to him on the phone and say sorry for how he acted. This was HUGE for John. He FINALLY had closure to his past. At least, his father’s part of it!

– He had Sean. What else is there to say? A chance to have a son who he felt close to that wasn’t a stranger in his own house, who would every day serve as the ultimate reward for him. Something deeper than any of his past demons and worth more than the price of fame. He made it all worth it. Said John once again on that fateful day: “(When I get depressed) Sure enough, he’ll trap his finger in the door or something’ll happen. So now I have a reason to stay healthy and bright!” – Househusband Lennon, SUPER DAD!

– His trip to Bermuda had seen him LITERALLY face the storm of his life. As im sure you must know, his sailing trip involved him steering his boat head on into a massive sea storm for hours on end! To hear John tell it, he was asked to captain the ship while the real one went below deck to rest. Leaving him alone to face NEPTUNE!

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“FEEL THINE OWN ANGER, LENNON!”

“No, U!”

After a rousing battle on the high seas filled with “Sea Shanties and shouting at the gods”, as soon as he docked, the sun broke through…At that moment, John had an epiphany! He had finally done it. He had seen the light–literally! Everything was gone. The anger, the doubt, the pain…all that was left was him. Him and his boy and the future! All he had to do was focus and get RID of the past once and for all.”It’s Cleanup time!” said a friend of his while in Bermuda. “It sure is!” The Beatle-that-was replied! Soon after, Double Fantasy was born.

…So you see, it wasn’t just TIME that softened John. It was life. He finally….FINALLY…FIIIIIIIIIIIIINALLY was at true peace with himself, his family and his lot in life. It is in my opinion this INCREDIBLE arc of a personal journey that makes John so fascinating in a way that sets him apart from the other three. This was a man who EARNED his happiness through pure life struggle and self reflection. Only George comes close to being as inspiring on a personal level. Nothing against Paul or Ringo, but if there was ever an example of taking the long way home and learning from the trip, JOHN was it! Suffice to say he probably would have been peeved at Paul had he lived to see that suit come to pass, sure….but NOWHERE near as much as then, I wager. He simply had too much to live for by that point.

If only…

…GAH! I’m not crying! YOU’RE crying!

Timothy said
A real memory I have from about five years ago. I remember driving in the pouring rain with high winds, and listening to the Beatles, thinking I was 100% safe, as if the music granted me superpowers. ‘I have Lennon on my side’.   

I’ve felt that way all week.

A psychic I watched on YouTube said she had an encouter with “John Lennon ” when she sensed an image of a guy with glasses coming to her during a doctor’s appointment she was nervous about or something and saying, “Imagine peace, man. Imagine peace.” while rolling a joint, and I’m just thinking “WOW, someone must have a combined knowledge of ONE, maybe TWO Beatles songs tops if that’s what they think John would act like. Maybe in ’69, but come ON! Its as if she took the most cliched caricature of John ever conceived and went “THATS HIM!”

Another for the “Fake Fans” thread.