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solo songs about Beatlemania (solo Beatles songs about the band after break up)
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(note: 23 March 2014, Ahhh Girl merged the two threads on this topic. The second thread began with post #21.)

 

I’ve heard George’s All Those Years Ago and When We Was Fab,

Have they another song about The Beatles ?

...They've forgotten all about God

He's the only reason we exist...

11 June 2012
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There are lots.

John’s How Do You Sleep, Crippled Inside and God ; Paul’s Too Many People , 3 Legs , Ballroom Dancing, The Song We Were Singing and Dear Friend; the George songs you mentioned; Ringo’s Early 1970, and of course Free As A Bird as imagined by the three remaining Beatles was lyrically inclined towards the past days of the band.

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Ben Ramon said
There are lots.

John’s How Do You Sleep, Crippled Inside and God ; Paul’s Too Many People , 3 Legs , Ballroom Dancing, The Song We Were Singing and Dear Friend; the George songs you mentioned; Ringo’s Early 1970, and of course Free As A Bird as imagined by the three remaining Beatles was lyrically inclined towards the past days of the band.

Thank You , I’ve heard How Do You Sleep , Crippled Inside , God , Too Many People , Free As A Bird .

But why Crippled Inside ?

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‘The light that has lighted the world’ by George released on his album Living In The Material World , as well. Although I don’t think George has ever confirmed that it is about The Beatles era, it’s the impression that I get when listening to it.

 

It’s funny how people, just won’t
  accept change
  As if nature itself – they’d prefer
  re-arranged
  So hard to move on
  When you’re down in a hole
  Where there’s so little chance,
  to experience soul ”

 

It’s a beautiful song.

Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.

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11 June 2012
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Another One said

Ben Ramon said
There are lots.

John’s How Do You Sleep, Crippled Inside and God ; Paul’s Too Many People , 3 Legs , Ballroom Dancing, The Song We Were Singing and Dear Friend; the George songs you mentioned; Ringo’s Early 1970, and of course Free As A Bird as imagined by the three remaining Beatles was lyrically inclined towards the past days of the band.

Thank You , I’ve heard How Do You Sleep , Crippled Inside , God , Too Many People , Free As A Bird .

But why Crippled Inside ?

Crippled Inside has been perceived as another attack on Paul, claiming that he maintains the happy, diplomatic public image which infuriated John (“you can wear a mask and paint your face”, “you can hide your face behind a smile”, “you can live a lie until you die”) but really he’s in pain from the breakup and John knows it (“one thing you can’t hide is when you’re crippled inside”).

I also forgot to mention some more George songs, spurred to recollection by fabfouremily’s post; Wah-Wah and Sue Me Sue You Blues both regard the animosity between the Beatles, and in the case of the latter the legal issues.

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Isn’t Band On The Run song about The Beatles?

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Ringo’s Liverpool 8 what with mentions of Hamburg, Shea and John, Paul and George.

Hasnt Ringo done a trilogy of beatle look back songs over the last few albums? He seems more open to reminiscing thru his music than in interviews, which is totally understandable when you think that people only want to discuss the beatles days in interviews. He is a bir more mellow to it all.

 

Re Band On The Run there has certainly been stories of it being about the Beatles plus there is a promo vid packed with beatles images. I can see how it can be viewed that way, being stuck with being a ‘beatle’ and finally getting freed by the split. Must have been very claustrophobic, especially at the end when they couldnt stand being in the same room together.

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Run Of The Mill is about John by George on All Things Must Pass . John called George’s songs “Run Of The Mill

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12 June 2012
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Long John Silver said
Isn’t Band On The Run song about The Beatles?

I always thought it was about Wings being persecuted as a “lesser” band than the Beatles and consequently fleeing to Nigeria for some exotic free time. But I suppose you could view it like that as well.

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Ben Ramon said

Long John Silver said
Isn’t Band On The Run song about The Beatles?

I always thought it was about Wings being persecuted as a “lesser” band than the Beatles and consequently fleeing to Nigeria for some exotic free time. But I suppose you could view it like that as well.

Well I saw this video:

 

and with it, song makes a lot more sense actually :).

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Nice video – not sure what it explains though.

The caption reads “original video”

Not sure either what “original” means here.

Certainly not “original” as in the sense of “dating back to when the song was released” – there were no videos then.

Perhaps “original” as in “clever, unique”

In any case, much of the video (especially the beginning) is taken from the Yellow Submarine movie.

I’ve never heard of any connection between “Band On The Run ” and the Beatles. McCartney’s band certainly was on the run in Nigeria.

Two of the band members quit just before the trip, and once there, they were actually mugged.

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13 June 2012
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There were music videos of sorts in 1973, ITSWD: the Beatles and some other artists made those promotional films to accompany their new singles, the most famous example probably being Dylan’s “Subterranean Homesick Blues” video where he holds up those placards that accompany the lyrics.

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Paul was putting out so called music videos before Band On The Run . Maybe Im Amazed had a promo video + there are videos for Heart Of The Country & 3 Legs . Admittedly these were more home movies and pictures of Paul, Linda and their kids put together to the music but would still be viewed as a music video.

 

According to reports when Band On The Run was reissued it included the original promo videos of the title song, Mamunia and Helen Wheels. That BOTR promo is the one with the Beatles clips.

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Just to be pedantic, that Dylan video wasn’t really a promotional video for the single; it was a clip from the “Don’t Look Back” documentary.

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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Is there a difference between a promo video and a video taken from a documentary/film being used for promotion? VH1 used the Eleanor Rigby scene from Yellow Submarine in 1999 when YS was reissued. Ive never given it much thought. They also used the Ticket To Ride scene from Help !, i think when the red and blue albums were reissued on cd in 1993, it was certainly shown on VH1 as i was amazed to see a Beatle promo of any kind.

Nowadays the only Beatle promo i see is Free As A Bird and thats very infrequent and only on those Top 20 Greatest Bands In The Universe charts where they cant exclude The Beatles who are also at number 1.

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I think we’re getting into semantics – but why not?

A film clip created specifically around the release of a work of music would be considered promotional.

Using a previously created bit of film for a new musical release could also be considered a promotional work if you stretch the definition a bit.

Using those definitions, the film clips (pre-video) of the Beatles on horseback in the country side could be considered promotional film for Penny Lane /Strawberry Fields. Of course, in the absence of MTV or any MTV-like TV channel, precious few people ever saw those clips at the time of their release, so it was really a luxury.

Getting back on topic, I think the video of BOTR shown above was created long after the release of the song and album.

It’s VERY different from the home movies McCartney released in conjunction with “Heart Of The Country ” etc…

The kind of video editing required to create this video was simply not around at the time of BOTR, and seeing how Macca was still looking to distance himself from the Beatles, I doubt he would have pinched material from Yellow Submarine .

No?

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14 June 2012
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Beatles did it with Rain /Paperback Writer (Beatles hipsters :)). Also to me it looks profesional. 

 

Also John had promo for his Cold Turkey , so it’s hard to say there were not music videos back then, of course not completely like it is done now.

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Beatles started making promos in late ’65 for Help !, Ticket To Ride , I Feel Fine , We Can Work It Out and Day Tripper . I think SFF & PL were the first with a storyboard.

 

As for BOTR i would agree it would be strange for Paul to put together a music video packed with beatles images however the reissues are calling it the original promo, suppose it could mean from later. Maybe it was put together for the ’76 world tour when Paul started revisiting the beatles work, tho Paul did go back to Yesterday , Michelle and Blackbird for the 1973 James Paul McCartney tv special so he hadnt completely ditched all reference. Plus the red and blue albums had been released 6/7 months earlier and were massive so maybe tapping into their success.

Purely speculation. 

 

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Found on wiki entry for Band On The Run song.

An official video was released along with the song. It served mostly as a tribute to The Beatles, featuring montages of still pictures from their career. Present-day McCartney and Wings weren’t shown. The video ends with a collage of Beatles pictures much like the album cover of Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

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isn’t there a promo film (that’s what they were called back in the day) for Love Me Do ? There’s a film of them lip synching the actual single – so it’s not a live performance that was filmed – it was a specially filmed lip synch of the song to be used for promotional purposes – thus making it a promo film.

 

Anyone remember that one of Love Me Do ?

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I like When We Was Fab, How Do You Sleep?, Crippled Inside , Too Many People (Which I guess was aimed more at John and Yoko personally), Wah-Wah , and my favorite is all those years ago.
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