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Scouse - accent, dialect
28 January 2025
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The chatter about the “wet” c/k sound over here: https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..9/#p391866 sent me looking for information on this aspect of the Socuseness that our Beatles speak.

I found this: https://britishaccentcoaching……use-accent

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Consonants in the Scouse accent exhibit unique variations as well. The ‘k’ sound, for example, is pronounced with a slight aspiration, particularly in words like “walk,” “talk,” and “look.” This adds a subtle breathiness to the speech, enhancing its distinctive character.

I don’t have a PhD in linguistics, but my best friend from high school does. I need to have some lengthy chats with her about this document https://www.google.com/url?sa=…..reGlJQBaUc

@Sea Belt, you used the phrase “percussive k” to describe the sound. What does that mean?

So, let’s talk Scouse here is this thread.

28 January 2025
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Is it Scouse particularly, or a general Northern UK thing, to pronounce a hard-‘G’ at the end of “-ng” sounds, almost like adding an extra syllable? I’m thinking specifically of

a) George in MMT announcing that next on the agenda is “A song-guh!”; or

b) Paul in “Get Back ” opining that “but it’s wrong-guh. It’s very wrong-guh…” (to rule out ever playing live again)

I can’t think offhand of any instances of Ringo or John doing that, nor of any sung occurrences in the canon, maybe someone else can…

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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28 January 2025
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Ahhh Girl said
@Sea Belt, you used the phrase “percussive k” to describe the sound. What does that mean?

  

 

I used percussive because when somebody accentuates the k sound it kind of sounds like a drum beat. there’s a few consonants that lend themselves to this, like p or b. 

Also, and you could ask your friend who knows this stuff, I think percussive might be a technical term for those people who study how words are pronounced with the mouth, tongue, palate, etc.

 

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vonbontee said
Is it Scouse particularly, or a general Northern UK thing, to pronounce a hard-‘G’ at the end of “-ng” sounds, almost like adding an extra syllable? I’m thinking specifically of

a) George in MMT announcing that next on the agenda is “A song-guh!”; or

b) Paul in “Get Back ” opining that “but it’s wrong-guh. It’s very wrong-guh…” (to rule out ever playing live again)

I can’t think offhand of any instances of Ringo or John doing that, nor of any sung occurrences in the canon, maybe someone else can…

  

 

You forgot my favorite — “Good morning, good morning, GAHHH!”

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