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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
18 February 2016
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Yellow Submarine . Even little kids know that one.

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P3pperish said
The question of a band’s “Magnum Opus” keeps getting tossed around. Like Led Zep have Stairway to Heaven, Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody, and so on. What, if there is one, could be considered to be Beatles’ Magnum Opus? Or does this question not apply to Beatles because of their evolving nature and versatility?

I think The Beatles are one of the few acts that don’t have a defining track attributed to them by the public. ‘A Day In The Life ‘ possibly but then there is ‘Hey Jude ‘ which everybody knows is the Beatles, ‘Yellow Submarine ‘ other; the Abbey Road medley may be their Magnum Opus but then thats a handful of different tracks so probabl doesnt count.  
 

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I would dissagre with ‘A Day In The Life‘ since I never heared it until I became a hardcore Beatles fan. I would say more like Yesterday or Let it Be are some of the big ones.

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It depends on what is meant by Magnus Opum; its generally viewed that ‘A Day In The Life ‘ is the crowning achievement of the Beatles in the recording studio with John, Paul and George M all coming together to create something immense, with support from George and Ringo.

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Then I say Dig It since it was the one song everyone wrote.

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Annadog40 said
Then I say Dig It since it was the one song everyone wrote.

All four Beatles wrote ‘Flying ‘.

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Was there an actual chance of certain members of the Beatles who left the band still staying in it after Hamburg? How would those people staying change their image/music?

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P3pperish said
The question of a band’s “Magnum Opus” keeps getting tossed around. Like Led Zep have Stairway to Heaven, Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody, and so on. What, if there is one, could be considered to be Beatles’ Magnum Opus? Or does this question not apply to Beatles because of their evolving nature and versatility?

I think The Beatles are one of the few acts that don’t have a defining track attributed to them by the public. 
 

I think you’re right. They have a couple, actually– Here Comes The Sun , Hey Jude , and Let It Be spring to mind. 

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KaleidoscopeMusic said
Was there an actual chance of certain members of the Beatles who left the band still staying in it after Hamburg? How would those people staying change their image/music?

I think it was only Stuart that left the band after Hamburg. I think John & George would be OK with it, but I can see it irritating Paul to the core, and Stuart being irritated with Paul as well. It would’ve created conflicts, many in fact. I think Stuart leaving was a blessing in disguise. He wasn’t a musician any way. 

I think it was Klaus Voormann wanted to join as the bassist, but John rejected him politely, saying Paul was going to do it. Tony Sheridan wouldn’t have joined either way, I think. So, that’s about it think.

If we’re going to add Pete Best into that mix as well, then I think that topic has been discussed to death.

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You’ll need to go back to page 14 of this thread (especially something I said in post 274) for the context of why I am making this post. That page and page 15 are great reads.

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Tune In, part 1 of the Extended edition, p. 383 “In photos of the Quarry Men before Paul joined they’re all wearing different clothes. In the first photo of the group with Paul they have a uniform look, and a sharp one at that, white shirts with black bootlace ties and black trousers, and John and Paul (only) are also wearing jackets on top, white or cream – it’s Paul’s ‘white sports coat’ and something similar John has managed to acquire. This was undoubtedly Paul’s doing, reaching back to his experience at Butlin’s in 1954 when he saw how a singing group in matching gear claimed everyone’s attention. He’d brought the thinking early to John, and John had bought it. And there’s something else compelling…

So, yeah, I hadn’t thought about the group (at least John and Paul) being in matching suits before Brian. I had always just thought of them in their leather gear.

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I think this is more of a Rolling Stones question, but why did Mick Jagger chicken out from telling the truth about Allen Klein’s shady dealings to The Beatles? I remember reading in Peter Doggett’s book that the presence of Klein led him to being guarded, and just said something like he was alright and things. But as far as I remember, I think he did tell Paul a lot more than that? Did the Stones still have any dealings with Klein at that point?

 

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P3pperish said
I think this is more of a Rolling Stones question, but why did Mick Jagger chicken out from telling the truth about Allen Klein’s shady dealings to The Beatles? I remember reading in Peter Doggett’s book that the presence of Klein led him to being guarded, and just said something like he was alright and things. But as far as I remember, I think he did tell Paul a lot more than that? Did the Stones still have any dealings with Klein at that point?

From what I remember in a Beatles biography I read, Mick did try to warn them but they didn’t listen. The Stones did have dealings with Klein before the Beatles, and had a lawsuit going against him for embezzlement or something like that.  (someone should clarify this though). a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Did The Beatles invent heavy metal with Helter Skelter ? Some say that The Kinks’ “You really got me” is one of the earliest influences, and The Who were more heavy than The Beatles, while John says that Ticket To Ride was the one of the first heavy metal records to be made.

 

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I don’t think they did.

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P3pperish said
Did The Beatles invent heavy metal with Helter Skelter ? Some say that The Kinks’ “You really got me” is one of the earliest influences, and The Who were more heavy than The Beatles, while John says that Ticket To Ride was the one of the first heavy metal records to be made.

No. Black Sabbath did. Anything before Sabbath’s first album is just stuff that sounds a little like/influenced heavy metal, but isn’t itself heavy metal. At least, that’s my definition. 

However, if you want to be really loose with your definition of heavy metal, you could argue that Link Wray and his Wray Men invented heavy metal in 1958.

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How did you find those? How long did it take you? @Ahhh Girl 

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Took about three minutes at most.

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What are the Beatles’ favorite animals?

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^^^ John absolutely loved cats, and I think George was a cat person as well. Paul likes & respects all animals I think – Linda’s influence. No idea about Ringo.

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