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Help! (Too famous altogether); Beatles or Taylor Swift?
2 September 2024
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LucyInTheSkyWithHackneyDiamonds
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Nobody can complain about the Beatles’ creative genius across Please Please Me , White Album , Pepper and Abbey Road . They were icons and teen idols defining the late-20th century and musicology. Question is though, in the 21st century, across  Millennials to Gen Alpha and Gen Beta, T. Swift far more iconic than Beatles. 

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There have been innumerable acts which have been called “the biggest since the Beatles” and which no doubt will remain paramount to their fans, but when the next one comes along the Beatles are still the yardstick. We’ll have to see if the time ever comes when an act is called “the biggest since Taylor Swift.”

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And the beatles still are that yardstick lol 

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As said above, artists and bands have come and gone after being hailed as the next, new or replacement Beatles but eventually fade. Taylor is an incredible talent, definitely deserves all the acclaim she gets but it’s also dependent on time and how long her influence, music and success lasts in the years ahead. There is room for both and that is only a good thing.

 

The 10 minute ‘All Too Well’ is quite possibly the best song to come out in the last decade but tracks like ‘Invisible String’, ‘Clean’ and ‘No Body, No Crime’ are brilliant (for whatever the YouTube video fails to embed).

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Not a TS follower.  Never heard All Too Well before.  Just listened to it.  Great voice.  Nice lyrics.  But the melody & music is not inspired.  It’s like she wrote the lyrics and had an idea in her head about an atmosphere of feelings she wanted to convey, then just recycled some typical chord changes and squeezed a typical uninspired melody out of them.  A pleasantly accomplished voice with nicely breathy accents here and there interspersed with vocal colorings Now And Then of emotional tugs at the ear aren’t enough to resuscitate this, I’m afraid.  It sounds like filler music played on the TV show “Felicity”.  I’d give it a C plus. 

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For the question asked in the thread title – obviously its The Beatles for me. ahdn_john_08_gif

I’m not a Swifty, however, Taylor seems an intelligent lady who plays multiple instruments, mostly writes her own songs, has savvy business sense, and has released albums and songs that resonate with multiple generations for 18 years without losing popularity. That is quite a feat. As a musician, I have no doubt she is well aware of and has respect for The Beatles musical and cultural impact. Also lets not forget, 18 years on and she’s still touring – remaining relevant to her fans and gaining new ones.

To me her songs are fine. Some really good and others forgettable – like most popular musicians. The music is not complex, nor does it have inventive or daring chord changes for the most part, but that’s ok. The songs are pretty easily strummable and easy to sing along with. Social media has also completely changed how fans interact with their favorite artists and their music.

It is quite easy to fall into the “music these days is terrible” that we all heard in our formidable listening years. I hope she keep going for years to come. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

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LucyInTheSkyWithHackneyDiamonds said
 

T. Swift far more iconic than Beatles. 

In the year 2024, she is certainly more famous and popular than the Beatles, but she’s not “iconic” at all, or at least not in comparison with Beatles. Icons have lasted for generations.

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As for Taylor Swift’s supposed beauty: to me she looks like the front-desk secretary at a small travel boutique located in a shopping mall sandwiched between an Orange Julius stand and a Vietnamese nail salon.

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I think that “girl next door” look is part of the appeal. She’s certainly conventionally attractive and has access to a whole team of hair/makeup artists and probably personal trainers to make her look as good as possible. That said, your highly specific imagery gave me a chuckle (especially as a half-Viet).

I’ve never been a fan of her music myself, but all of my favorite bands were once dismissed as “kids these days” music, so I can only say time will tell how her legacy ages.

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mccartneysstrawberryfields said
And the beatles still are that yardstick lol 

  

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