9.44pm
28 March 2012
I didn’t know whether to post this here or in “songs.” It has to do with post-Beatles songs, so I put it here.
The question: Speaking purely of their post-Beatles output, in which songs can you hear the influence of one of the other Beatle’s songwriting? Put differently:
Which Paul songs sound the most as though they could have been written by, or at least deeply influenced by, John? By George?
Which John songs sound the most as though they could have been written by, or at least deeply influenced by, Paul? By George?
Which George songs sound the most as though they could have been written by, or at least deeply influenced by, John? By Paul?
I have some ideas but I want to hear what others think.
2.52am
1 May 2010
Mhh I dunno but I don’t see much influence in each other’s work.
Maybe …. in John’s influence in Paul, “Let Me Roll It ” and Paul’s influence in John… “Whatever gets you through the night”.
Here comes the sun….. Scoobie-doobie……
Something in the way she moves…..attracts me like a cauliflower…
Bop. Bop, cat bop. Go, Johnny, Go.
Beware of Darkness…
2.20pm
16 February 2011
Uhmm, I suppose you aren’t looking for the obvious ones such as “How do you sleep” or “Dear friend/boy”? I agree with Mith that Let Me Roll It is a good example of John’s influence on Paul ( at least it appears so). I think “Well Well Well” sounds a bit like something Paul might have composed in 1969 or so
8.55pm
3 March 2012
I think some of John’s poppier output in the late ’70s was trying to incorporate an element of McCartneyism, seeing as Paul had just had huge success and a world tour with Wings using that polished, funky stadium rock sound on Band On The Run and Venus And Mars . I think “Whatever Gets You Thru The Night ” and “Listen to What The Man Said” have similarities, and John said that he was influenced to start work on Double Fantasy by Paul’s disco-esque “Coming Up .”
SHUT UP - Paulie's talkin'
10.45pm
7 November 2010
Somebody mentioned Paul’s “Another Day ” in a different thread, and it reminds me of George and the kind of things he was producing around the same time, ATMP -era. There’s something about that guitar.
I think it's great you're going through a phase, and I'm awfully glad it'll all be over in a couple of days
2020
10.27pm
1 December 2009
Not that there was necessarily any deliberate sign of stylistic imitation; but I think if we didn’t know any better, we’d all SWEAR that “Mean Mr. Mustard” was much more of a “Paul” than a “John” song – bouncy piano, goofy subject matter.
As for deliberate, specific influence…Why would George add the line “We all know Ob-La-Di-Bla-Da” to “Savoy Truffle “? Did he just decide he liked the way the phrase sounded; did he need a few syllables to fill a hole; was it a wry comment on the song’s overfamiliarity after they were forced to play 50 takes? It’s fun to speculate.
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
1.05am
4 December 2010
(Just Like) Starting Over could easily be a Paul song.
Man We Was Lonely sounds like John wrote (and sang) the chorus and Paul the verse.
Maxine (Traveling Wilburys) sounds a lot like a Paul song (one of his characters), with John’s sense of humour (“it was a photo of a woman on a llama”).
I told her I didn’t
9.00am
3 May 2012
vonbontee said
As for deliberate, specific influence…Why would George add the line “We all know Ob-La-Di-Bla-Da” to “Savoy Truffle “? Did he just decide he liked the way the phrase sounded; did he need a few syllables to fill a hole; was it a wry comment on the song’s overfamiliarity after they were forced to play 50 takes? It’s fun to speculate.
I read that he said that because Ob-la-di is such a happy song and he wanted to suggest with Savoy Truffle that life isn’t so jolly and it might not go on. Basically because if you’ll have to have all your teeth pulled out after the Savoy Truffle .
Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.
(Passover - I. Curtis)
5.29pm
1 December 2009
Really? That’s interesting! I didn’t think George would ever have any good things to say about “Ob-La-Di…”
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
5.42pm
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1 May 2011
Have always seen “we all know ob-la-di ob-la-da” as being a dig at having had endless sessions recording the darn thing. The kind of irritation and pain you get when you have toothache from eating too many chocolates
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5.44pm
3 May 2012
6.20pm
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6.25pm
3 May 2012
8.57pm
1 December 2009
That does sound more like the George we know.
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
10.13pm
4 December 2010
8.48am
3 May 2012
1.34pm
12 April 2012
I always thought Wah-Wah is a bit influenced by paul/john, because it’s kind of a pop/rock song george wouldn’t normally write but paul and john would.
Anyway I always thought when the Beatles had released Man We Was Lonely, the chorus would have been sung by all four beatles and the verses by paul alone (like Carry That Weight )
Once there was a way to get back homewards. Once there was a way to get back home; sleep pretty darling do not cry. And I will sing a lullaby
3.33am
1 May 2010
Really? To me Wah-Wah sounds very George. Maybe because of the lyrics.
Here comes the sun….. Scoobie-doobie……
Something in the way she moves…..attracts me like a cauliflower…
Bop. Bop, cat bop. Go, Johnny, Go.
Beware of Darkness…
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