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26 July 2014
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Not really sure where to post this…

Just heard on TCM that royalties from the Beatles’ cover of Till There Was You exceeded the sum total of all other profits associated with The Movie Man.

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ahdn_paul_06 I think you mean The Music Man?

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ahdn_paul_06 I think you mean The Music Man?

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Dont see why its such a surprise, The Music Man is such an annoying song large sales are not going to happen.

 

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Matt Busby said
Not really sure where to post this…

Just heard on TCM that royalties from the Beatles’ cover of Till There Was You exceeded the sum total of all other profits associated with The Music Man.

@Matt Busby When you say TCM, do you mean the cable TV network? Did they mention that during the broadcast of the film? If so, what a cool Beatley Moment. 

That song is one of my unsung favorites. George’s solo is well played – especially the one he performed at the Royal Variety show.

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Zig said

Matt Busby said
Not really sure where to post this…

Just heard on TCM that royalties from the Beatles’ cover of Till There Was You exceeded the sum total of all other profits associated with The Music Man.

@Matt Busby When you say TCM, do you mean the cable TV network? Did they mention that during the broadcast of the film? If so, what a cool Beatley Moment. 

That song is one of my unsung favorites. George’s solo is well played – especially the one he performed at the Royal Variety show.

Yes, the cable classic movie network.  One of the emcees was introducing the film and casually mentioned it.  It was Bob Mankiewicz, who I think likes the Beatles more than the average person in their 40s.  I’ve sang the song karaoke myself, it was one of the first ones I did this year.

EDIT:  I like George’s work in the song too, it’s precise and (in most versions) flawless.  The slow, sparkling chords…

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meanmistermustard said
Dont see why its such a surprise, The Music Man is such an annoying song large sales are not going to happen.

I think Matt meant that the Beatles royalties from the cover of ‘TTWY’ were greater than the profits generated by the entire film The Music Man.

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Interesting factoid worth double-checking. (You’ll need to be the second coming of Allen Klein to figure that one out.) Meet/With The Beatles did sell by the millions, but The Music Man was (is) a huge hit on Broadway, at the movies,…

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This was all in regard to the film only, I believe. I don’t think it had anything to do with any other media. Is that right, @Matt Busby ? That was how I read it.

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Zig said

meanmistermustard said
Dont see why its such a surprise, The Music Man is such an annoying song large sales are not going to happen.

I think Matt meant that the Beatles royalties from the cover of ‘TTWY’ were greater than the profits generated by the entire film The Music Man.

Yeah i got what he meant; my reply was very much not to be taken seriously or given too much thought.

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This was all in regard to the film only, I believe. I don’t think it had anything to do with any other media. Is that right, @Matt Busby ? That was how I read it.

That’s how I took it, yeah.  I poked around for some numbers but couldn’t find anything on the broadway/hollywood front except gross box office receipts, and we’re talking profit here (at least, I think they said profit…it went by so quick, but my ears perked up because of the potential Beatles connection).  The Music Man is still about 30th on the all time list of longest running Broadway musicals, so it seems unlikely single-song royalties, except for a huge hit like um, Whitney’s Warnes/Medley’s The Time of My Life would surpass its profits. 

It’s quite possible they meant the Beatles version royalties from the one song surpassed the entire soundtrack royalties, not the total movie profits. In fact thinking about it, the song was not a big hit for the Beatles…surely it couldn’t have beaten the entire movie?  The soundtrack was pretty popular (I kind of think it’s in our box of vinyl…), so beating that is still saying something.

EDIT (found it!): “Willson’s widow later told the New York Times that his estate made more money from the royalties of the Beatles’ cover of “Till There Was You” than it did from the play.[18]

I looked up the cited source (#18) and it just had the same statement – no additional definition of what she meant by “from the play”.  I could find no record of a soundtrack being released from the play, only from the movie.  But I’m certain musical score writers were and are compensated more and differently than standard musician contracts specify (iow, I’m sure Andrew Lloyd Webber made more than just royalties off Phantom).  After all, you can’t measure a musical’s score’s contribution to its profits by individual song/lp sales.

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Every morning on my way to work, I drive past a plant that manufactures cement mixing drums like the one attached to this truck:

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When the drums are detached from the trucks and stacked in piles, they look like stacks of yellow submarines. The first time I saw them, I did a double take thinking, “no – it can’t be!”. It wasn’t.

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28 July 2014
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Sorry it wasn’t. But you could sing this when you drive by

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Sorry it wasn’t. But you could sing this when you drive by

Yellow lorry slow, nowhere to go

Or a combination song.
“We all live on a Yellow Lorry slow, Yellow Lorry slow, Yellow Lorry slow.”

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On YouTube I got an ad for a Paul McCartney solo work

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Not really a Beatlesmoment, but this afternoon I was at a friend’s, and we were playing Singstar (this karaoke game on the playstation). I was a bit flabbergasted that the musicshop of that game did have songs by John and Paul solo, but not by the Beatles themselves, while they had songs by godknowswho. F*****g country singers I’ve never heard of, Dutch singers, you name it, even the Beach Boys , but no Beatles. 

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Must be an Apple copyright thingie. I ran into the same kind of thing last night. Zag & I went out for a bite to eat at our favorite little Tavern. I decided to play some music on the digital juke box. Pleanty of solo stuff but no real Beatles – only others covering them.
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Down to licensing laws and costs?

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The woman said, “hey cool plate – that’s my favorite album”. After complimenting her on her good taste, we both drove away smiling. ahdn_ringo_09

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