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18 May 2017
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Huh? Someone else is working on it, or he was just saying what album comes next in the discography?

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Huh? Someone else is working on it, or he was just saying what album comes next in the discography?  

The White Album doesn’t even come next in the discography.

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The question he was asked was whether there was any more material to remaster.

He joked, “I kind of hope not,” before going on to make the comments about the White Album .

Now, there may be no plans in the pipeline and he was just thinking ahead, or maybe he said too much and is having to back-pedal.

His comments about the White were made in response to a question about whether there was anything else to remaster though.

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The White Album doesn’t even come next in the discography.  

It does actually, because in the UK Magical Mystery Tour was not an album, it was an EP. So, what “album” comes next is The Beatles.

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According to Ultimate Classic Rock, in an interview on BBC Radio 2 with Simon Mayo yesterday, Giles Martin suggests that the White is next-up for the expanded/deluxe treatment:

The White Album , which is the next release – that is where they started becoming indulgent. There are 70 takes of Sexy Sadie , for instance. The efficiency went slightly out the window. There’s a lot of stuff. So, it’s getting the balance right.

  

Wait a minute… I thought that there were more than 100 takes of Sexy Sadie .

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He’s nearer than you, @Necko, even though you’re not wrong.

They recorded takes 1-21 on 19 July. Remaking it on the 24th, they recorded takes 25-47. A second remake on the 13 August (the day after the Not Guilty [take 102]) saw them starting with take 100 through to take 107, reduction mixes taking it to take 111. After further overdubs and reduction mixes on 21 August, it reached take 117.

There are no takes 22-24 or 48-99 though, meaning there are 63 takes (some of which are reduction mixes).

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Expert Textpert said

Evangeline said

The White Album doesn’t even come next in the discography.  

It does actually, because in the UK Magical Mystery Tour was not an album, it was an EP. So, what “album” comes next is The Beatles.  

I thought the UK officialy considers the US MMT part of the discography.

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I thought the UK officialy considers the US MMT part of the discography.  

 

They do now (and the US MMT was an album), but historically in the UK the next album was The Beatles. And notice Giles said “the next album,” not “the next record” or “the next release.” So, if Giles is saying “the next album” is The Beatles, then he is probably referring to the UK chronology.

If he considered MMT an album, he would have said “The next album is MMT.”

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He’s nearer than you, @Necko, even though you’re not wrong.

They recorded takes 1-21 on 19 July. Remaking it on the 24th, they recorded takes 25-47. A second remake on the 13 August (the day after the Not Guilty [take 102]) saw them starting with take 100 through to take 107, reduction mixes taking it to take 111. After further overdubs and reduction mixes on 21 August, it reached take 117.

There are no takes 22-24 or 48-99 though, meaning there are 63 takes (some of which are reduction mixes).  

Why would a reduction mix count as a take, that makes no sense. Also, where did 22, 23, 24, and 48-99 go, they couldn’t’ve possibly done that many reduction mixes.

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He’s nearer than you, @Necko, even though you’re not wrong.

They recorded takes 1-21 on 19 July. Remaking it on the 24th, they recorded takes 25-47. A second remake on the 13 August (the day after the Not Guilty [take 102]) saw them starting with take 100 through to take 107, reduction mixes taking it to take 111. After further overdubs and reduction mixes on 21 August, it reached take 117.

There are no takes 22-24 or 48-99 though, meaning there are 63 takes (some of which are reduction mixes).  

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Why would a reduction mix count as a take, that makes no sense. Also, where did 22, 23, 24, and 48-99 go, they couldn’t’ve possibly done that many reduction mixes.  

I assume counting a reduction mix as a take is the best way of keeping track of the progression of the track. It would be confusing if they had to organize things with two variables, ex: Take 24 third reduction or something like that. Counting each as a take is simpler.

To what Ron said, is there a chance that Apple decides to make all 63 takes available to the public? I only have 15/63 takes of my favorite song ever.

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I’d be more interested in an alternative take of Boys !

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^ It ain’t the full video, though. :/

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I swear that was already uploaded onto The Beatles official channel sometime in 2015 or 16. 

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Apple has probably changed one half-second of the video so it’s a new exciting must-see edit.

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Pattie Boyd unveiled a blue plaque at the former site of Kinfauns yesterday.

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The BBC reports that a 1963 tour poster owned by Mary Hopkin…

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…valued at £400-£800, has sold at auction for £28,000!

While The Auction Centre in Cheshire is putting up for auction a battered guitar given to a neighbour by Louise Harrison in 1965 which may well predate the Egmond guitar which has been thought of as his first guitar.

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The Times reporting on it today said:

George Harrison ’s “crap” first guitar which has been gently weeping in a cupboard for more than 50 years could fetch tens of thousands of pounds when it is sold next month.

The Beatles’ guitarist learnt to play on the battered instrument which was given to a neighbour by Harrison’s mother when his parents moved house in 1965.

As she left the semi-detached house at 174 Mackets Lane, Liverpool, Louise Harrison spotted George Rawlinson in the street and asked him if he wanted it. She is said to have told him that George “won’t be needing it now”.

Her son had already become an international superstar with The Beatles and could afford to buy a whole armoury of guitars. The very basic Spanish-style guitar had two strings and two tuning pegs missing. The fret board and bridge were also damaged.

Mr Rawlinson kept it in a cupboard at his home in Mackets Lane for years and later put it into storage when he moved to Nantwich in Cheshire. Now in his 70s, Mr Rawlinson rediscovered the instrument last year and decided to sell it.

It is being sold without an estimate or any reserve because as a guitar it is effectively worthless, but it could easily fetch a six-figure sum because of its past owner’s iconic status in the pantheon of pop history.

The instrument has no maker’s name or mark and predates the Egmond steel-strung acoustic guitar that was widely thought to have been regarded Harrison’s first. Michael Baines, of the Auction Centre in Runcorn, Cheshire, said he spent several months researching the item and is satisfied it is genuine.

He said: “We first came across this guitar last September but have spent some time checking it out. George Rawlinson lived a few doors away from the Harrison family in the 1960s. I have seen his birth certificate and he was born at that address and his family were on the electoral roll there for 1965.

“I am not saying he was George Harrison ’s best friend because he wasn’t, but he knew him. When the Harrisons moved out, Louise Harrison spotted George in the road and asked him if she wanted her son’s guitar as he didn’t need it anymore. George Rawlinson is very clear about the exchange and remembers it well. He has signed a statement to that effect.

“We don’t know exactly when George Harrison had the guitar but it seems likely it was before the Egmond guitar because this one had nothing going for it.”

The acoustic guitar has not been played since Harrison last held it. Mr Rawlinson did not try to restore it but he kept it for sentimental reasons because it was Harrison’s.

Mr Baines added: “Mr Rawlinson has done absolutely nothing with it since he was given it. He has stored it away since 1965. He hasn’t played it or shown it off. He knew it was a battered guitar but kept it because of who it belonged to.

“This is an important piece of music history, but it is also a crap guitar so it is very hard to value which is why were haven’t given an estimate. It could sell for £1,000 or it could go for more than £100,000. There are Beatles fanatics out there who would like to see it.”

It is due to be auctioned on 24 June.

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Who would buy something at 3-7 times it’s value, it’d be like spending $25 on a Big Mac meal. As for the guitar, it looks like it could be repaired and I hope the person who buys it does just that.

My left handed Epiphone acoustic was given to me with the headstock split in half and connected with duct tape and wood glue and even after I removed the duct tape it still works like a charm, it stays in tune just fine and there are no intonation problems, although I had to remove the pickguard after my special needs brother chewed on it (he does this with a lot of stuff like TV remotes and headphone wires but let’s not get off topic), so if a guitar who’s headstock was broken and repaired with wood glue works perfectly fine, I think this guitar will as well after a repair.

As for the price, I doubt this thing will sell well at all, it’s not a notable guitar for George, it’s not like Rocky or Lucy or his rosewood Telecaster where he actually used it during Beatlemania to record songs, it’s just some old broken guitar that I would spend less on than a Pink Squier Mini Strat, although some people are collectors, so my guess would be $500-$1,000. Hell, if this thing sells for over $5,000, I will show a picture of myself wearing KISS makeup.

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George’s Egmond, @Dark Overlord, which has always been believed to be his first guitar (and is on display in The Beatles Story in Liverpool), is currently valued at £800,000:

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If the provenance on this guitar is accepted, whatever state the instrument is in, it will sell for a lot. It’s value will depend on the acceptance of that provenance.

And if it’s provenance is accepted, it is not likely to be fully restored into a playable instrument, as it’s value would be in George’s ownership, and most collectors I know would keep it as George left it.

As for the Mary Hopkin poster, it does seem the auctioneer greatly undervalued it, not realising it’s rarity.

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First of all, what happens if it’s provenance is rejected. Also, why would someone keep a guitar that with a bit of time and effort could be repaired broken, I know this was supposedly owned by George Harrison , but think of it this way. Let’s say you had the money and bought one of the guitars Pete Townshend stupidly smashed, would you try to repair it, I know I would.

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