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16 July 2013
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How many of you think the way the beatles kicked out pete best wast heartless
& downright shitty to say the least?
Yes yes , we all know ringo was god on the drums compared to pete & how pete
Was NOT!…like the rest of the guys because he was shy reserved & wouldnt change
his hair & so forth.
But concidering how he stayed with them thru thick & thin from the very start,
And how petes mom mona even made a place for them to play & how she was
Trying to make ends meet money wise in her personal life but yet made phone
Calls all the way to hamburg germany back in 61–62 to get thier gear back after
They got kicked out of hamburg?
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7.23pm
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Offline And keep someone who wasn’t rated by the producer and who they wanted out anyway? Yes the timing wasn’t great but unless they had done it earlier it never would never been. The biggest problem was that John, Paul and George were cowards who didn’t make the move until when they did and that was only after George Martin told them Pete wasn’t good enough for the studio recordings.
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10.08pm
17 January 2013
Offline Pete was also unreliable, which is when Ringo started playing in his place. He also had no interest in hanging out with the group. It didn’t “click” when it was the four of them, but with Ringo it did.
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17 January 2013
Offline Also… why is this in Paul’s area? Should be moved…
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8 November 2012
Offline ^^ Yes, this is at least the second time thesnazz has started a discussion in the Paul section rather than a more appropriate one.
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9.35pm
3 May 2012
Offline ^ I have tried to do it but me and mja are having some problems moving the threads around and such so I can’t yet, hopefully it’ll be sorted soon.
The way they chucked him out was downright wrong. The least they could’ve done was have the balls to face him themselves, or at least with Brian, instead of offering no explanation or anything. Bye Pete, and that’s that. No, he didn’t ”fit in” properly with them, but as a drummer he certainly wasn’t that bad. I think there’s a certain level of respect that you owe people, regardless of the situation, and this is no different IMO.
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Yeah, I’m having trouble moving threads too. There was an update to Simple:Press on Friday which seems to have borked things. I’ll see if I can find out what the problem is. Sorry all. At least I’ve managed to make the topic name less shouty.
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21 November 2012
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^ I have tried to do it but me and mja are having some problems moving the threads around and such so I can’t yet, hopefully it’ll be sorted soon.The way they chucked him out was downright wrong. The least they could’ve done was have the balls to face him themselves, or at least with Brian, instead of offering no explanation or anything. Bye Pete, and that’s that. No, he didn’t ”fit in” properly with them, but as a drummer he certainly wasn’t that bad. I think there’s a certain level of respect that you owe people, regardless of the situation, and this is no different IMO.
I agree. The least you can do when you throw someone out is give them an explanation why. In any situation. I also think it’s very good what you say about the level of respect. This was kind of disrespectful.
But, on the other hand: Isn’t being absent from gigs without any explanation disrespectful either? Seems to me he didn’t take it as seriously as the others did. Maybe they also just thought it wouldn’t really matter to him anyway, since he didn’t really hang out with them a lot and didn’t show up and stuff like that. I don’t know what went through their heads at that point.
It may not have happened in the right way, but it’s a good thing it happened. I’m glad George Martin told them Pete really wasn’t good. He just wasn’t a good drummer, let’s face it. Still a better drummer than me though.
7.23pm
3 May 2012
Offline ^ Was he really that bad a drummer? I know he wasn’t as good as Ringo, but I’ve heard a few people (including Paul himself) say that his talents weren’t a good enough reason alone to chuck him out, that it was always more because of his personality.
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29 November 2012
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Let’s face it…despite the fact that he was a mediocre drummer and a complete mismatch in terms of personality and playing along with the image (he sticks out like a sore thumb when he didn’t alter his hairstyle), he was only in the band as a matter of convenience anyway; they needed a drummer who had his own kit and wasn’t already in a band, and they found Pete days before heading to Hamburg. Plus he had a ready-made place for them to gig (the Casbah in his basement).
Don’t discount the fact that John, Paul, George, and Brian were all keen to get his meddlesome mother out of the mix, too! She was a stage mom before the phrase was even coined! 
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14 December 2009
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3 May 2012
Offline DrBeatle said
Let’s face it…despite the fact that he was a mediocre drummer and a complete mismatch in terms of personality and playing along with the image (he sticks out like a sore thumb when he didn’t alter his hairstyle), he was only in the band as a matter of convenience anyway; they needed a drummer who had his own kit and wasn’t already in a band, and they found Pete days before heading to Hamburg. Plus he had a ready-made place for them to gig (the Casbah in his basement).
Don’t discount the fact that John, Paul, George, and Brian were all keen to get his meddlesome mother out of the mix, too! She was a stage mom before the phrase was even coined!
Neil Aspinall obviously didn’t have the same problem with her, though… 
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1.00pm
19 August 2013
Offline They had Brian Epstein tell Pete he was out of the band. They admitted later that it was the cowardly thing to do. It had to be done though, and this sort of thing happens to lots of bands all the time anyway.
It probably could have been handled better though.
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29 November 2012
Offline DrBeatle said
Let’s face it…despite the fact that he was a mediocre drummer and a complete mismatch in terms of personality and playing along with the image (he sticks out like a sore thumb when he didn’t alter his hairstyle), he was only in the band as a matter of convenience anyway; they needed a drummer who had his own kit and wasn’t already in a band, and they found Pete days before heading to Hamburg. Plus he had a ready-made place for them to gig (the Casbah in his basement).
Don’t discount the fact that John, Paul, George, and Brian were all keen to get his meddlesome mother out of the mix, too! She was a stage mom before the phrase was even coined!
Neil Aspinall obviously didn’t have the same problem with her, though…
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17 December 2012
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DrBeatle, has something gone wrong with your post? It is just a straight quotation of fabfouremily’s reply to your earlier comment (without crediting her). Was there something added that hasn’t appeared?
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29 November 2012
Offline Yeah, weird! I had said something to the effect “yes, it’s strange how Neil obviously was friends with Pete and friends-with-benefits with Moan-a (<—– see what I did there? ) but to Pete’s credit, he urged Neil to stick with the boys.”
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5.07pm
21 November 2012
Offline I never really thought about it but that must’ve been really weird for him.
Btw, wasn’t Mona like, a whole lot older than Neil?
5.21pm
9 July 2013
Offline I’d have to assume Mona was a good deal older than Neil since I’m betting Pete and Neil are in the same age group. That whole relationship has always creeped me out. Mona was a stage mom, I concur. I remember some people said that the band fired Pete cuz they were jealous of him. All the Cavern girls loved him best (pardon the pun). I dunno….hard to picture Paul McCartney being jealous of Pete! It had to be done, and they probably should have done it sooner, but George Martin gave them the perfect excuse to get it done.
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17 December 2012
Offline Mona was born in 1924, Neil 1941. Little bit of an age gap!
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