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2 December 2011
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Why was Yesterday not released as a single in the UK?   a-hard-days-night-paul-1

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They were embarrassed by it…they thought of themselves as a little R&B combo, not Frank Sinatra.

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Another reason may have been that since Ticket To Ride and Help ! had already been singles and both songs were on the album releasing Yesterday as another single was going a step too far, especially with no non-album b/side available apart from songs already on the album, well maybe Wait which was left till Rubber Soul . They could have worked on that a bit more. But then AHDN has 4 songs available on singles so maybe im speculating nonsense, as did Please Please Me .

 

Kind of interesting to know why they performed it live since they were embarrassed about it. Eight Days A Week wasnt performed live as John thought it was a lousy song and that was a #1 in America, the same as Yesterday .

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To get a sense of what they thought of “Yesterday ,” look where it is on the album – next to last.

It was the first song featuring just one Beatle, so regardless of how good it was, it wasn't really a “Beatle” record.

It was one of the few times when the American branch – Capitol – got it right.

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They were a band. Yesterday only features one Beatle. Therefore they didn’t want to issue it as a Beatles single. And in honesty I don’t think they knew it would become so monumentally popular.

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George was certainly in the studio at the time as you can hear Paul instruct him on Take 1 (Anthology 2 ) so there would certainly have been support and probably ideas being thrown about. No idea if John and Ringo were but it wouldnt surprise me if they were.

If Yesterday isnt a true Beatle song because its only 1 beatle then neither are a number of tracks on The White Album and raises the question 'how many Beatles does it take to make a true Beatles record?'.

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There is some truth in all of the answers above. If the boys had any control whatsover over what was realeased in the US, “Yesterday ” would not have been as a single (right, wrong or otherwise is a separate discussion). 

That part of it always blew my mind; that they had no say in these things.

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Joe said:

They were a band. Yesterday only features one Beatle. Therefore they didn’t want to issue it as a Beatles single. And in honesty I don’t think they knew it would become so monumentally popular.

This is likely the main reason. This was when the band was still being promoted as the Fab Four, especially in the UK, where they were very much locked in this image, as it tied them to their Merseyside roots. Their “brand recognition” was as those boys from Liverpool–John, Paul, George and Ringo. It’s why you don’t see much–if any–promotional photos from this time that does not feature them as anything other than a foursome.

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To pick up on meanmistermustard's point, by the time the White Album came along, a song featuring just one Beatle was no longer a big deal.

(There isn't much of anyone but George on Within You Without You …)

But in 1965, it was still a big deal for all the reasons listed above.

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Yesterday was recorded 50 years ago today (14th June 1965) and Ultimate Classic Rock has an article on the track for that very reason (which even mentions Beatles Bible).

Not sure how they can write 

Recording the song, however, was far easier than writing it. McCartney did it in one take with his acoustic guitar, with the strings being overdubbed — also in one take — while the singer redid his vocal.

when they have an embedded video of Take 2 in the same article.

[x-posted in the ‘Meta‘ thread] 

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meanmistermustard said
Yesterday was recorded 50 years ago today (14th July 1965) and Ultimate Classic Rock has an article on the track for that very reason (which even mentions Beatles Bible).

How cool is that.  Happy Birthday Yesterday a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Bongo said

meanmistermustard said
Yesterday was recorded 50 years ago today (14th July 1965) and Ultimate Classic Rock has an article on the track for that very reason (which even mentions Beatles Bible).

How cool is that.  Happy Birthday Yesterday a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Well it would be if i could get the date right. Today is the 14th June 2015 so 50 years ago would be the 14th June 1965 which is when they recorded ‘Yesterday ‘. Absolutely no idea what the hell the Beatles were doing on the 14th July but they certainly doing what my post said. I’ve changed it so it reads correctly.

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Wow…. 50 years! And Paul still gets emotional when he hears his audience sing along. How amazing is that? 

Also: conratulations @Joe on the BB mention 🙂

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I showed that video to a friend………I’m thinking great song……Paul’s looking good……

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Yesterday was recorded 50 years ago today (14th June 1965) and Ultimate Classic Rock has an article on the track for that very reason (which even mentions Beatles Bible).

Not sure how they can write 

Recording the song, however, was far easier than writing it. McCartney did it in one take with his acoustic guitar, with the strings being overdubbed — also in one take — while the singer redid his vocal.

when they have an embedded video of Take 2 in the same article.

[x-posted in the ‘Meta‘ thread] 

They also write:

The classically trained Martin wasn’t thrilled with two of McCartney’s suggestions, the seventh by the cello in the second verse and the high note held by the violin in the last verse.

George Martin actually said he wished he’d had the idea to include the groaning 7th on the cello.

For the non-musical: it’s after the second “Why she had to go I don’t know, she wouldn’t say.” The cello goes “da-DAH-dah-dah” before Paul sings “I said something wrong…” The DAH is the 7th note they’re taking about.

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Mentioning that 7th note brings back memories… When I was learning to play guitar, the open 7th chords were introduced quite soon. I hated the sound of them at first; they sounded so strange to me! But then, as I learned to play a 12-bar blues and incorporate them in songs, I realised how much that extra 7th note does, and I started to love them. 

Would it be fair to say the lads tended to think in chords rather than notes, not having much (if any) knowledge of musical theory? That would explain the harmonies which were often just singing chords, as well as that 7th note in Yesterday . Just guessing here.

 

p.s. When I saw the Anthology interviews and Paul mentioned that B7 chord, I felt a bit proud because I know that one… haha!

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I was just perusing le YouTube when I stumbled across their Circus Krone in 1966. And surprisingly enough Yesterday was played by the whole band! I was really shocked at that and it was actually not half bad. Just thought I’d throw that in here a-hard-days-night-john-1

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The full band arrangement was adopted for the ’66 tours. In the spoiler is the 2nd July performance in Japan. 

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Would it be fair to say the lads tended to think in chords rather than notes, not having much (if any) knowledge of musical theory? That would explain the harmonies which were often just singing chords, as well as that 7th note in Yesterday . Just guessing here.

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meanmistermustard said 

The full band arrangement was adopted for the ’66 tours. In the spoiler is the 2nd July performance in Japan. 

Thanks for digging that up, mmm.  I love Yesterday , but that looks like a good way to bring a concert to a screeching halt, doesn’t it? Ringo looks like he is barely awake.  At least they went from that to the uptempo “I Wanna Be Your Man .” 

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