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Unintentional / intentional mistakes in songs!
15 February 2010
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There's been a bit of discussion on another thread (of a different topic!) about bits in songs that coulld have been corrected if required (i.e. Paul's bum piano chord on Let It Be , George's wrong guitar chords on Yes It Is ) so I thought I'd start a new thread about it.

I've always been fascinated by John's missing guitar chords on She's A Woman .  Did he miss the strings? Did they just decide to let it go uncorrected so as not to ruin an otherwise good take?

Well that's my starter for ten…………………

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15 February 2010
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Have you seen the What Goes On site? http://wgo.signal11.org.uk/wgo.htm

It takes error-spotting to a terrifying degree, though you have to respect the dedication…

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15 February 2010
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Joe said:

Have you seen the What Goes On site? http://wgo.signal11.org.uk/wgo.htm

It takes error-spotting to a terrifying degree, though you have to respect the dedication…


They've updated the site since I last visited.  Seems a bit more user-friendly now, but so lacks that professional look of yours…..

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15 February 2010
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Maybe it wasn't an “error”, per se, but George's guitar solo in “All You Need Is Love ” always struck me as an aborted attempt.  The first half of it is fine (1:19-1:26), of course, but then it almost sounds as if he clipped a string and dropped a pick and gave up, or maybe just ran out of ideas.  The guitar croaks a bit (1:27-1:29), then just drops out.

Not a bit like Cagney.

15 February 2010
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PeterWeatherby said:Maybe it wasn't an “error”, per se, but George's guitar solo in “All You Need Is Love ” always struck me as an aborted attempt.  The first half of it is fine (1:19-1:26), of course, but then it almost sounds as if he clipped a string and dropped a pick and gave up, or maybe just ran out of ideas.  The guitar croaks a bit (1:27-1:29), then just drops out.


Emerick 'crucifies' him in his book for this solo. Reckons he bodged it “as per usual”.

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16 August 2012
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mjb said

PeterWeatherby said:Maybe it wasn’t an “error”, per se, but George’s guitar solo in “All You Need Is Love ” always struck me as an aborted attempt.  The first half of it is fine (1:19-1:26), of course, but then it almost sounds as if he clipped a string and dropped a pick and gave up, or maybe just ran out of ideas.  The guitar croaks a bit (1:27-1:29), then just drops out.


Emerick ‘crucifies’ him in his book for this solo. Reckons he bodged it “as per usual”.

Yeah, but Emerick also calls George’s solo in “I’ll Follow The Sun ” embarrassing — and I think it’s actually perfect for what is essentially an acoustic ballad — just a very brief 8-note repetition of the main melody of the song — what more could you want than that?   It seems fellow engineer Ken Scott was right — Geoff Emerick had it in for George (until Abbey Road at least).    

(The solo in “All You Need Is Love ” does sound pretty unfinished.)

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16 August 2012
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The “f*****g hell” buried in Hey Jude . Another “was it John or Paul” thing.

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16 August 2012
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I think that’s pretty uncontroversially John. But I’ve never been able to decipher it myself at all! I can hear somebody say *something* but can’t make it out.

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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17 August 2012
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Possibly not what was intended, but what about Paul laughing in Maxwell’s Silver Hammer because John mooned him on “behind”?

 

The Anthology version of And Your Bird Can Sing has Paul similarly unable to control his laughter.

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17 August 2012
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The Walrus said
Possibly not what was intended, but what about Paul laughing in Maxwell’s Silver Hammer because John mooned him on “behind”?

 I love that, one of my favourite little Beatle anecdotes. Also, I know it doesn’t count because it’s solo, but the second time Paul does the “well well well”s in “Long Haired Lady” he does the last one with a slight German accent and you can hear him snigger a bit before Linda launches into “or is this the only thing you want me for.”

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17 August 2012
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Havent went thru the whole thread but i think its George who sings the wrong words in I’ll Get You ; it should be “im gonna change your mind” but it sounds like he sings “i’m gonna make your mind”. The Beatles Chronicle reprints a 1963 fan letter telling them about it.

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17 August 2012
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The Walrus said
Possibly not what was intended, but what about Paul laughing in Maxwell’s Silver Hammer because John mooned him on “behind”?

 

The Anthology version of And Your Bird Can Sing has Paul similarly unable to control his laughter.

I never heard of that word so I googled… I wish I hadn’t :D .

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17 August 2012
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Never heard this anecdote until now…I thought John was recuperating from the auto crash when “Maxwell” was recorded?

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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18 August 2012
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Sorry this is going all the way back to the name of the thread, but how can something be a mistake if it was intentional…? a-hard-days-night-john-7

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18 August 2012
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Dipsy said
Sorry this is going all the way back to the name of the thread, but how can something be a mistake if it was intentional…? a-hard-days-night-john-7

For instance, in You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away John sang “two foot small” by accident, but kept it in because he liked it. Similarly in Ob-La-Di Paul sings “Desmond stays at home and does her pretty face” or something like that, and mixes up the genders, but it was kept in because it makes things more interesting. True, it doesn’t make the mistake itself intentional but it’s kept in intentionally.

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18 August 2012
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Ben Ramon said

Dipsy said
Sorry this is going all the way back to the name of the thread, but how can something be a mistake if it was intentional…? a-hard-days-night-john-7

For instance, in You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away John sang “two foot small” by accident, but kept it in because he liked it. Similarly in Ob-La-Di Paul sings “Desmond stays at home and does her pretty face” or something like that, and mixes up the genders, but it was kept in because it makes things more interesting. True, it doesn’t make the mistake itself intentional but it’s kept in intentionally.

I see…Thanks for the explanation, Ben! apple01

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Who sings ”yesterday” and ”she loves you yeah, yeah, yeah” at the end of ‘All You Need Is Love ‘? I always thought it was Paul because it sounds like him but according to the What Goes On site that Joe mentioned earlier on in the thread, it´s John. Anybody know??

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26 August 2012
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fabfouremily said
Who sings ”yesterday” and ”she loves you yeah, yeah, yeah” at the end of ‘All You Need Is Love ‘? I always thought it was Paul because it sounds like him but according to the What Goes On site that Joe mentioned earlier on in the thread, it´s John. Anybody know??

You can hear it hear (from the What Goes On site) and its John with some Paul. There is also a discussion on that site that goes into it all.

 

(A Day In The Life threads come to mind and cause frightening flashbacks and screams of horror. “Its definately Paul”, “no its not its John”, “no its both”, “no ITS PAUL!”, “no JOHN!!!” “NO Its JOHN (wait ITS PAUL, No John, no Paul, wait, what did i post 3876 posts ago.”))

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(A Day In The Life threads come to mind and cause frightening flashbacks and screams of horror. “Its definately Paul”, “no its not its John”, “no its both”, “no ITS PAUL!”, “no JOHN!!!” “NO Its JOHN (wait ITS PAUL, No John, no Paul, wait, what did i post 3876 posts ago.”))

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27 August 2012
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I’ve always heard John do the Yes We Can, Paul starts the She Loves You and John joins in. Also, here’s paul talking about the song, seemingly indictating he did the She Loves You (or started them off): 

All You Need Is Love was John’s song. I threw in a few ideas, as did the other members of the group, but it was largely ad libs like singing She Loves You or Greensleeves or silly things at the end and we made those up on the spot.


The Yes We Can was John, however. At least I hear it as John.

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