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6.54pm
13 November 2011
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Hey, everybody! Long time, no see! 😀
This has probably been posted before, but I don’t feel like looking through millions of pages of posts.
Anyways, in November 1967, The Moody Blues come out with Days of Future Passed. A song on this album is titled “Forever Afternoon (Tuesday?)”. A few months later, The Beatles record their next single, “Lady Madonna “.
Now maybe it’s just me, but does anyone else think that “Forever Afternoon (Tuesday?)” and “Tuesday afternoon is never ending.” have such a similar message?
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8.34pm
12 April 2012
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Well I don’t know the song by the moody blues but just the message of these two lyric pieces are definitely the same
Once there was a way to get back homewards. Once there was a way to get back home; sleep pretty darling do not cry. And I will sing a lullaby
8.55pm
5 July 2010
Offline It could just be a coincidence considering he does mention the other days of the week as well. But then again, it could be if he listened to both Tuesday Afternoon and Evening Time To Get Away as they could have been played together that he made the reference. Played together it’s over 8 minutes I believe.
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10.26pm
13 November 2011
Offline George, whether you’ve heard the song or not, it doesn’t matter, it’s the reference.
"Time wounds all heels."
-John Lennon
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It wouldnt surprise me if Paul knew the song and was mindful of it when writing Lady Madonna . The Beatles had been friendly with the Moody Blues for years, Paul obviously knew their material as he invited Denny Laine to join Wings (tho he left The Moody Blues in ’66) and Paul was always looking for and receiving inspiration from other bands and songs.
Beatles & Moody Blues.
Hi Strawberry by the way.
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9.02pm
1 December 2009
Offline Probably just a coincidence – as Bjway says, the other days of the week all get a shoutout – but neat observation anyways! The “Forever” in the title of that Moodys song never made much sense to me, since the word “forever” doesn’t appear in the lyrics at all, and the song is frequently (and more sensibly) titled simply “Tuesday Afternoon” on compilation albums, etc.
(Always LOVED Days of Future Passed btw – and it’s still probably only like my 17th favourite album of 1967, whatta year! Not even counting it being my year of birth!)
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1.19am
4 December 2010
Offline It’s hard to think that Paul wouldn’t have known the song, doubtless George would have made him listen to the album if he didn’t do so himself. The similarity could be a coincidence or “subliminal plagiarism” though.
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2.07am
13 November 2011
Offline It looks like it’s unknown. Everyone here has a different yet interesting opinion on it. Maybe someday, Paul will tell us.
"Time wounds all heels."
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5.27am
22 October 2012
Offline The only thing those two songs have in common is that they mention Tuesday Afternoon.
6.36pm
14 December 2009
Offline Well, that and the concept of a Tuesday afternoon lasting “forever”. And like I said, the Moodys only articulated that concept in the song’s title, not the lyric. I’d say it’s probably a coincidence.
I wonder why The Walrus suggests that George in particular would know the song and recommend it to Paul?
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9.49pm
4 December 2010
Offline Von Bontee said
Well, that and the concept of a Tuesday afternoon lasting “forever”. And like I said, the Moodys only articulated that concept in the song’s title, not the lyric. I’d say it’s probably a coincidence.I wonder why The Walrus suggests that George in particular would know the song and recommend it to Paul?
It was something I read in (I think) Revolution In The Head, that George was the band’s “scout” and listened to the most music, particularly from America. Given how acclaimed the album is now (and, as far as I can tell, then), it seems astonishing that the Beatles wouldn’t have listened to it.
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10.23pm
14 December 2009
Offline Ah, gotcha. Interesting! I would’ve thought that George was largely ignoring the rock music world in ’67. But I knew that John & Paul, at least, were keeping tabs on the music scene. I can’t imagine they’d be unaware of that album.
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4.25am
22 October 2012
Offline I forgot that the original post said that the actual title was Forever Afternoon instead of Tuesday.
I could see Paul in some drug induced state ” Yeah Tuesday it goes on and on and on”
5.00am
14 December 2009
Offline It could’ve gone the other way, too – imagine Justin Hayward and the boys listening to “Good Morning Good Morning ” and thinking “hey, we can do an album that’s, like, an ENTIRE DAY!”
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14 April 2010
Offline Von Bontee said
It could’ve gone the other way, too – imagine Justin Hayward and the boys listening to “Good Morning Good Morning ” and thinking “hey, we can do an album that’s, like, an ENTIRE DAY!”
…in the life.
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10.24pm
19 April 2010
Offline Or maybe it was a deliberate “hello” reference by Paul to his friends in the Moody Blues. The original album version was over 8 minutes long, maybe Paul was referencing the song’s length. Just a thought.
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14 April 2010
Offline robert said
Or maybe it was a deliberate “hello” reference by Paul to his friends in the Moody Blues. The original album version was over 8 minutes long, maybe Paul was referencing the song’s length. Just a thought.
That would make sense and would explain the line “Tuesday afternoon is never ending”.
That being said, I think the mentioning of the days of the week is coincidental. Writing the days of the week into song had been going on for quite some time before 1967. T-Bone Walker’s “Stormy Monday” was written in 1947 and featured the lyrics…
They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday’s just as bad.
Wednesday’s worse, and Thursday’s also sad.
Yes the eagle flies on Friday, and Saturday I go out to play.
Sunday I go to church, then I kneel down and pray.
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5.52pm
14 December 2009
Offline Not to mention that old “Monday’s child, full of grace…” rhyme.
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5.57pm
19 April 2010
Offline Yes I fully I agree that using the days of the week as a lyric writing technique is a classic writer’s tool – and Paul, once having deciding to use that tool, then may have put a little nod out to the Moody Blues – you can almost hear him and John laughing over the inside joke – because the song Tuesday Afternoon album version – does go on forever.
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7.22pm
23 July 2018
Offline What we do know is that. The Moodies did influence the Beatles use of the mellotron on strawberry fields as well as the late Ray Thomas and Mike Pinder playing harmonica on The Fool On The Hill and I Am The Walrus .
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