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Overrated vs. Underrated songs
9 January 2014
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Great idea, emily.  Saves the trouble of trying to find the other one for reference…!

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Good Night is very underrated. For a long period I refused to believe that such a tender song could have been written by John! I’d always thought it was on one of these films like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or something like that. It sends shivers down my spine.

One overrated song is (all the George fans are going to hate me now) While My Guitar Gently Weeps , I mean, it’s a good song and all, but take out the guitar parts by Clapton (probably the best in the Beatles catalogue) and you’re left with just a standard song really. It also drags on slightly.

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Atlas said

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The Long And Winding Road . The best version is the Let It Be  version, and that’s even no good. Other than that, The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill isn’t very good, and I know some people who love it.

How so?

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I see Funny Paper’s point that Bungalow Bill isn’t really overrated, I treated this as a worst song thread with that one.

BUT, The Long And Winding Road gets a lot of love, and I believe it fits the criteria.

Now, on why I dislike it, it’s simply boring. I just can’t wait for it to be over so the next song can come on. It drags on so long, even though its not ridiculously long. The lyrics aren’t that strong, and it lacks the punch that makes songs like Eleanor Rigby or Get Back interesting, or the sentimentality that works so well for Let It Be and Hey Jude .

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I have stated that let it be is overrated. I will explain why I think so. This song is often cited as a masterpiece and/or a emblematic Beatles song and it is easy to see why, with its memorable melody and subject matter. I rate it lower, probably an 8 out of 10, at best.

Why? This is obviously very subjective. The music that l like most is full of subtleties, innuendos, enthusiasm and/or a sense of urgency, qualities that let it be lacks and does not pretend to have. A sentimental, honest song that falls short compared with the Beatles’ greatest.

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As good as I find “Let It Be ” to be, to me it’s far, far less enjoyable to the ears and to the heart, than are, for example, Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da ; or Good Morning; or With A Little Help From My Friends ; or Back in the U.S.S.R.; or Birthday ; or Hello, Goodbye ; or Penny Lane ; or… so many others.

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OK then:

Overrated:

  1. Revolution 9
  2. Ballad of John and Yoko?

Underrated:

  1. Abbey Road Melody (in terms of radio play)
  2. Mr Kite
  3. The majority of Rubber Soul and Revolver ( amongst the general public at least – many don’t appreciate the period directly before Sgt. Pepper )

 

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I last posted on this thread back in November 2012 and subsequently have some new underrated songs to add to the mix. 

The first of those is Misery – great rhythm and Lennon vocal.

Another fantastic song is All I’ve Got To Do which I really think is a gem, as is Sure To Fall In Love with its amazing vocal harmonies.

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Given that The Beatles are pretty much the most popular band of all time, I doubt that there’s a such thing as an underrated Beatles song. :P

But, seriously…

I think The Ballad Of John And Yoko is underrated.  Blue Jay Way , as well.  I think Don’t Bother Me is underrated, even though George didn’t like it.  I think Drive My Car is underrated, even though it’s not all that unpopular.  Everybody’s Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey (okay, so it’s not that unpopular, but it still wasn’t released as a single, nor does it get radio airplay).  Flying .  For No One .  Glass Onion .  Happiness Is A Warm Gun .  Helter Skelter (okay, so Paul plays it live and it has been identified more recently as one of the songs that led to the development of heavy metal, but, in 1968, it wasn’t a very notable song).  Hey Bulldog .  Hold Me Tight .  I Call Your Name .  I Don’t Want To Spoil The Party .  I Need You .  I’ll Cry Instead (even though it was released as a single in the U.S.).  I’m A Loser .  I’m So Tired .  It Won’t Be Long .  Little Child .  Magical Mystery Tour .  Matchbox .  Mean Mr. Mustard.  Misery .  Money (That’s What I Want).  The Night Before .  Not A Second Time .  Oh! Darling .  One After 909 .  Rain .  Slow Down .  Tell Me What You See .  Wait .  What You’re Doing .  Why Don’t We Do It In The Road?.  Yer Blues .

Okay, those are the underrated songs, in my opinion.

It’s really typical of me to enjoy the less popular songs, not just of The Beatles, but of nearly every band I like.

By the way, BBC-only songs, Anthology-only songs, and bootleg-only songs are not even considered in the above list.

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Overrated:

Long and Winding Road 

Across The Universe

Lady Madonna

Let It Be

Fool on the Hill

 

Underrated:

Hey Bulldog

Happiness is Warm Gun

For No One

She Said, She Said

You Never Give Me Your Money

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I Am Not Sgt Pepper said
OK then:

Overrated:

    1. Revolution 9
      1. Ballad of John and Yoko?

      Underrated:

        1. Abbey Road Melody (in terms of radio play)
          1. Mr Kite
            1. The majority of Rubber Soul and Revolver ( amongst the general public at least – many don’t appreciate the period directly before Sgt. Pepper )

             

            In terms of radio play, Revolution 9 is probably the least rated song in history. 

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            a-hard-days-night-john-3Personally I Think I’m Looking Through You and Mr. Moonlight are Underrated

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            John Harrison said 

            a-hard-days-night-john-3Personally I Think I’m Looking Through You and Mr. Moonlight are Underrated

             

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            Overrated:

            Love Me Do – boring.
            I Want To Hold Your Hand – I realize it’s important and all, and it’s good, but not great.
            Yesterday – it’s good, but so overplayed.
            Michelle – tied for worst on Rubber Soul for me, but it’s not bad.
            Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds – It’s good, but not great. Not their psychedelic masterpiece, imo.
            Penny Lane – it’s grown on me but it’s still not that great.
            All You Need Is Love – ugh. Don’t like this one.
            The Ballad Of John And Yoko – this could have been a really good song…but the performance is pretty average.
            Come Together – it’s pretty damn lazy. But that bassline gets me everytime.
            The Long And Winding Road – grown on me a little bit, but that orchestra nearly knocks me out :o

            UNDERRATED!!!

            From Me To You – often overlooked, much better than LMD & IWTHYH
            Don’t Bother Me – George’s first composition is ace!
            Things We Said Today – my favourite early Macca number.
            No Reply /I’m A Loser /Every Little Thing /What You’re Doing – all underrated jems on Beatles For Sale .
            The Night Before – my favourite song on Help !..and it’s almost forgotten.
            You Like Me Too Much /Tell Me What You See – both get a little flak, but they are better than Yesterday  *hides*
            You Won’t See Me – my 3rd favourite on Rubber Soul , Paul perfection.
            Think For Yourself /The Word – A sign of things to come on Revolver .
            If I Needed Someone – in my top 10 Beatles songs, hands down.
            She Said She Said – favourite off Revolver , so good and not very popular.
            Doctor Robert & I Want To Tell You – two of my favourites off Revolver , but also two songs usually slammed!
            Fixing A Hole – WHY DOES NO ONE EVER GIVE THIS LOVE!? 2nd best on that album behind…uh you know.
            Good Morning Good Morning – 3rd favourite from SPLHCB , waaaaay underrated.
            Hey Bulldog /Only A Northern Song /It’s All Too Much – I do believe these would be more well received if they were more well known.
            Half of The Beatles/White Album (mainly Long, Long, Long and Savoy Truffle )
            Old Brown Shoe – should have been the A-side
            Oh! Darling – Pauls vocals!!!!
            You Never Give Me Your Money – favourite Beatles song EVER! Never see anyone talking about this.
            I’ve Got A Feeling – That riff and those vocals.
            I Me Mine – favourite song off LIB , would have been good on Abbey Road I think.

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            most overrated- HEY F*CKING JUDE a-hard-days-night-ringo-13I don’t get why this song is so damn famouspaul-mccartneypaul-mccartney

            most underrated- It Won’t Be Long  

            But so many songs are criminally underrated, it would be hard to say which is the most underrated. 

            We were just trying to write songs about prostitutes and lesbians

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            Mimi said
            most overrated- HEY F*CKING JUDE a-hard-days-night-ringo-13I don’t get why this song is so damn famouspaul-mccartneypaul-mccartney

            most underrated- It Won’t Be Long  

            But so many songs are criminally underrated, it would be hard to say which is the most underrated. 

            Personally, I think Hey Jude would be much more enjoyable with about three and a half minutes chopped off. I like it until the na-na-na-nas. There’s just way too much “na-na” for me. A little bit of that is fine, really, but after a full minute of that and a load of ad-libbed randomness from Paul, it gets boring.

            I would agree that it’s overrated because of that though. That’s one of those (rare) cases where the B-side (Revolution ) is more enjoyable than the A-side, at least to me and probably you.

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            Bulldog said

            Mimi said
            most overrated- HEY F*CKING JUDE a-hard-days-night-ringo-13I don’t get why this song is so damn famouspaul-mccartneypaul-mccartney

            most underrated- It Won’t Be Long  

            But so many songs are criminally underrated, it would be hard to say which is the most underrated. 

            Personally, I think Hey Jude would be much more enjoyable with about three and a half minutes chopped off. I like it until the na-na-na-nas. There’s just way too much “na-na” for me. A little bit of that is fine, really, but after a full minute of that and a load of ad-libbed randomness from Paul, it gets boring.

            I would agree that it’s overrated because of that though. That’s one of those (rare) cases where the B-side (Revolution ) is more enjoyable than the A-side, at least to me and probably you.

            Agreed. Hey Jude is a glimpse of the kind of songs to come in the seventies, (really really long songs) and I really don’t think anyone can appreciate a song for more than a few minutes. In terms of composition, its simply not tasteful to be making someone sit through a song until they can’t take any more of it. 

            We were just trying to write songs about prostitutes and lesbians

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            There was a “Beatles Greatest Hits” album released in ’82 (that I heard a lot in ’83 while camping with cousins) which had a “Hey Jude ” edited down to 5-minutes-plus, and yeah it’s so much more enjoyable that way.

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            At one time in the US you could get a 3:25 minute edit of Hey Jude on a 4″ flexi disc in vending machines, it was released by Pocket Disc. Presumably they just chopped off almost all of the coda.

            And going off topic here is an edit of Sgt Pepper ‘s Reprise that made it longer, if you listen really closely you might just catch it.

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            Interesting, I’ll look into that 

            Hey Jude would be a much better song if it was only 3:25

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