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Little Piggy Dragonguy said

MattWatchingWheels said
Man, you better not see any Beatles music video ever! Shield your eyes, they have fun in them!
I loved it. It was everything a REAL Beatles music vid is/was! [Image Can Not Be Found]

You are welcome to express a differing opinion, but I do not appreciate you using such a condescending tone. I do appreciate The Beatles’ fun music videos – Penny Lane , Strawberry Fields Forever , I Am The Walrus , Fool on the Hill, etc.

Now And Then is overly tacky and looks like it was made by a fan instead of somebody who was paid by The Beatles to make it. It has a very obvious rotoscoping – Jackson even said that Paul filmed his part on an iPad, and you can very clearly tell. The lighting is absolutely horrific. The inclusion of all the extremely poor and obvious deep fakes, when we know that they can do better, as Paul’s Find My Way is executed much more successfully than N&T.

 

The video seems to be constantly attempting to make the audience feel a certain way – laugh, cry, be sentimental, but in a way that does not at all feel cohesive. It starts off with the 90’s footage in the studio – all good. However, the entire middle section is just confusing, out of place and both simultaneously overwhelming in how bad it is, but also underwhelming as this video could have been so much more. It cuts to a creepy and unnerving animated image of John looking into a sunset at the four Beatles, and goes downhill from there. The video seems to be constantly attempting to make the audience feel a certain way – sad, happy, nostalgic, but in a way that does not at all feel cohesive or appropriate for the song or video. Almost all the clips of John are him acting silly and making goofy faces (including his cripple face), while George looks confused through much of it before doing his strip tease. Then at the end of the video, Jackson realizes “oh shoot we should probably make them feel the finality of this!”, which is when we get the nice montage ending on the AHDN bow.

 

The Beatles music and music videos are by and large a hallmark of great quality. None of what I’ve just said gives an image of the standard and quality that we are used to by The Beatles in terms of their output. For their final song, and what will most likely be the last music video featuring Paul and Ringo “together” (like I said very poor rotoscoping), the production and execution is incredibly poor and disappointing.

 

 

 

 

 

  

If it means anything, I was being silly. While I can’t agree with you even still, I do sincerely apologize if you took what I said to heart. I didn’t mean it maliciously. “I said what I said and it was wrong – or was taken wrong – and now it’s all this.”

If it makes you and Beatlebug feel better, most aren’t seeing these effects to be nearly so bad. The reactions I have watched and been reading have left people with the intended emotion, so by and large it’s succeeding where it needs to. I stand by that I think it’s BETTER than both the FAAB video and RL IMO. to be honest I find those over rated. this is more heartfelt to me than, say, playing easter egg hunt through Beatle-world like FAAB did. *Shrug*

Again, im sorry if I came across too ugly. Peace & Love.

Ran across this on the Music vid:

“i’ve never listened to the beatles but this genuinely made me FEEL something so deep inside like i was a character in a movie. it was beautiful it’s a masterpiece!!!”

WE GOT EM, BOYS N GALS! The next generation of fans is coming in!!!! 🙂

kelicopter said
The “I don’t want to lose you” part does something important for the melody too. It is a shame that it’s missing.

  

It’s the “Use you or abuse you” line that would have been contentious giving a social media feeding frenzy, but given they totally isolated the vocals it would have been easy enough to simply repeat the first middle 8 line to make: “I don’t wanna lose you… I don’t wanna lose you” and give a little variation. I’m not complaining though, it’s fine.

Little Piggy Dragonguy said

MattWatchingWheels said
 If it means anything, I was being silly. While I can’t agree with you even still, I do sincerely apologize if you took what I said to heart. I didn’t mean it maliciously. “I said what I said and it was wrong – or was taken wrong – and now it’s all this.” [Image Can Not Be Found]

No worries, you’re good. 

If it makes you and Beatlebug feel better, most aren’t seeing these effects to be nearly so bad. The reactions I have watched and been reading have left people with the intended emotion, so by and large it’s succeeding where it needs to. I stand by that I think it’s BETTER than both the FAAB video and RL IMO. to be honest I find those over rated. this is more heartfelt to me than, say, playing easter egg hunt through Beatle-world like FAAB did. *Shrug*

I think it’s more that many people are overlooking the horrible effects and instead looking at it from a bigger picture perspective than it is them appreciating them. I’ve had three other people watch this video and they all responded 100% positively to it. However, when we talked further, they all agreed that the quality could have been better and that the four of them pasted into Paul’s studio did not look right. 

I personally prefer both the FAAB and RL music videos to this one. They’re more creative, better quality, and have clearer intentions. The video for Free As A Bird was also made to serve a completely different purpose than this video, so it’s weird to knock it for “playing easter egg hunt” instead of being heartfelt. It was the first new single in decades to promote the Anthology series, so it makes sense in that context to try and evoke nostalgia for their music. N&T is mainly a tribute to John and George. It being on the Blue Album is more of an afterthought.   

Okay, lets not say the reason they like it is because they’re essentially ignoring it. That’s a bit much. None of this is objective… <3 However I’d counter I’ve seen plenty who think the effects are great and Most, I think, would say the video looks good if not a bit silly, which is perfectly Beatles. I don’t see amateurish. in fact, you can see effort in places there usually IS none in these things (Actual shadows for John standing in front of Paul for example)

However, these are just opinions and we don’t really prove or disprove anything this way. Its probably more fair to say the video is at least good enough for what it needs to be, but maybe not perfect. Some like it, some don’t. Its only anecdotal opinion.

But, I will say I don’t think its fair to call this song "Just" a tribute as if it means nothing. it damn sure IS something. It’d the last "New" thing from all four we will get and its setting the world ablaze right now. It deserves what its getting. It deserver’s its place in history.

At the end of it, disagreements like this are nitpicks. There is a new Beatles song out. Let us all rejoice instead of debating these matters of taste. 🙂