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"Hey Jude": Original in MINOR scale!
1 March 2013
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Very interesting!

 

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2 March 2013
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I cracked up when the backing vocals came in.

2 March 2013
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But it is a fake. There are alternate Hey Jude ‘s. Some where they play with keys, and styles. None with backing singers.

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2 March 2013
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mja6758 said
But it is a fake. There are alternate Hey Jude ‘s. Some where they play with keys, and styles. None with backing singers.

Yep it’s fake, uploader mentions it so… but still it’s amazing to hear it in minor.

2 March 2013
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*cracking up* Love it.

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2 March 2013
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I just want to shoot some heroin and curl up and die while I enjoy this…

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2 March 2013
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Would love to know how that was done!

Imagine applying that technology to other songs.

Can you play “Eleanor Rigby ” in a major key?

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Would love to know how that was done!

Imagine applying that technology to other songs.

Can you play “Eleanor Rigby ” in a major key?

Lol how could a singer sing it in a lively way whereas the lyrics are very sad in a good way.

2 March 2013
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said

Can you play “Eleanor Rigby ” in a major key?

I think this guy takes requests. ;->

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Answered my own question:

Here’s “Beat It”

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3 March 2013
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Haha, somehow the process also miraculously changed the image of 1982 Michael Jackson to 1987 Michael Jackson!

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4 March 2013
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Those were both very interesting. Hey Jude just doesn’t sound right in a minor key, but I kinda liked Beat It in a major key.

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I agree with some of the people the minor key doesn’t work as well for this song

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

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1 May 2014
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This is such a hoot to hear “Hey Jude ” in a minor key. “Take a sad song and make it sadder!” :D

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This is really interesting… I kinda like it, but the end is fighting to be happy despite the minor! Wait … no it’s just getting sadder… Now it seems back and forth sad, happy… I don’t know, but it’s quite interesting.

Sadly the Beat It video doesn’t work… What’s funny is at one point Michael Jackson owned both of those songs!

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That “Hey Jude ” was kinda perturbing to me, ’cause the original always sounded to me like it was in a minor key already. Thought I had the ability to differentiate just from hearing (and often do) but that one’s misleading. I’m sure someone here has the musical knowledge to explain why it fools me so (though probably not in a way I can easily understand.)

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1 May 2014
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Yes Vontee, the original in the major key of F does have a minorish feel.  I think it’s because the melody is flirting with a melody that would also fit into the minorish mode called “Dorian” which would use Gm7 to C (In Hey Jude , we have Bb and C7, which are similar).

There’s one major problem, however, with converting it to minor:  the signature melodic leitmotif — the two notes sung for the title words, “Hey Jude …” strongly dip down from a C to an A note for the dominant F major chord (also the key of the whole song); and it is precisely the A note that makes the F chord a major chord! 

That signature melodic motif (Hey Jude …”) are practically as famous and familiar to our ears as the first four notes of Beethoven’s 5th.

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Call me anything you want, but I liked it. It sounds more… dramatic.

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I like it. It makes it sound more epic and ironic. I also noticed at 2:53 you can hear the infamous expletive.

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