2.37pm
27 February 2010
mr. Sun king coming together said:
The Walrus said:
He worked with the Ramones. He had 25 top 40 hits between 1960 and 1965 ffs.
Really? He now has a little credibility with me. I never knew that. Thanks!
He produced “End of the Century” album. He also pointed a loaded revolver to them. Happiness Is A Warm Gun .
I'd like to say "thank you" on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition.
John Lennon
2.52pm
19 September 2010
Marcelo said:
mr. Sun king coming together said:
The Walrus said:
He worked with the Ramones. He had 25 top 40 hits between 1960 and 1965 ffs.
Really? He now has a little credibility with me. I never knew that. Thanks!
He produced “End of the Century” album. He also pointed a loaded revolver to them. Happiness Is A Warm Gun .
He seems to like guns a lot
As if it matters how a man falls down.'
'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.
8.30pm
1 May 2010
I'm not sure what to respond to in this thread. You can't sue someone for a bass line, look at Drive My Car which George admitted was lifted from Otis Redding's respect. Whether George actually played bass in that song is debatable, but I digress. I do think it's funny that Chuck Berry sues people so much though, he really should be suing himself for using the same intro on Johnny B. Goode on a bunch of different songs, and pretty much the same solo.
As for the original question, I like some covers, but like M3 said, there are some pretty awful ones, especially sung by George and Ringo (Matchbox , ugh). I'd definitely take originals, and I'm so so on covers as a whole.
I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine
8.39pm
19 September 2010
GniknuS said:
As for the original question, I like some covers, but like M3 said, there are some pretty awful ones, especially sung by George and Ringo (Matchbox , ugh). I'd definitely take originals, and I'm so so on covers as a whole.
But Look at Money, Twist And Shout , Till There Was You , Devil In Her Heart and Long Tall Sally . All Class A Covers
As if it matters how a man falls down.'
'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.
9.05pm
25 November 2010
I don't know, at the end of the day, I can see why they had lots of covers on their earlier albums: not enough original songs they thought were good enough, maybe songs they were played back at the Cavern or in Hamburg as some sort of throwback tribute, I don't know.
At the end of the day, I much prefer their originals to covers because while I'm sure they put a bit of their own stamp on the originals they were covering, it doesn't mean much in terms of their own songwriting/arranging/playing development. It's fun to play Rock Band and be good at it, but no one's going to know what I'm trying to express lyrically or musically unless I show off something only I have created.
And with that being said, sure Twist And Shout and Til There Was You and Boys were great songs, never mind covers, but you're only a bar band if that's what you play. I don't think anyone is going to take a band seriously until they stick their neck out and say “This is my take on the world I am living in.”
9.09pm
19 September 2010
9.12pm
25 November 2010
It's just a personal thing for me, hearing bar bands night after night do other people's music, I started to wonder if they ever got tired of it and would they ever say hey guys, we've been working on this.
Carole King decided to go on her own after awhile.
9.16pm
19 September 2010
StarWisher said:
It's just a personal thing for me, hearing bar bands night after night do other people's music, I started to wonder if they ever got tired of it and would they ever say hey guys, we've been working on this.
Carole King decided to go on her own after awhile.
Goffin/King was almost “Song for Hire”. King never sang Her Own stuff until the 70's. It was Common to sing the same stuff each night, Heck, Even The Beatles Did.
As if it matters how a man falls down.'
'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.
9.27pm
25 November 2010
Well sure, they did but they would eventually work on their own songs. And I'm sure Carole King said at one point that if the songs she was writing were becoming big hits, maybe she should step away from her typewriter and get behind that microphone herself.
A cover band doesn't really go anywhere further than a wedding or a bar most of the time. Most pop acts these days are the ones who have outside writers write their songs and while they do well, I personally don't take them so seriously. Some of the covers were good, some were awful but I don't know how to judge most of them fully because I've never heard the original to say, Mr. Moonlight.
9.28pm
19 September 2010
10.37pm
9 June 2010
mr. Sun king coming together said:
You need to use time perspective. That's all I have to say.
What “time perspective” is StarWisher not using?
Sun king, I'm getting the feeling that you're just jumping up to “correct” everyone who makes a point/disagrees with you. Calm down already!
If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.
10.42pm
19 September 2010
10.44pm
9 June 2010
10.48pm
19 September 2010
1.30am
1 May 2010
Well Mr. Sun King is right when he says look at the “time perspective” because no one else was writing their own stuff when the Beatles first started. But also make no mistake that when the Beatles really started writing their own music is really when they took off musically, so even if some of those early originals weren't too spectacular, they paved the way for what was to come starting on Help and progressing forward. It's like when George says that when he started he had to work his way up because John and Paul had written most of their bad songs and he had to start when they had already achieved a considerable level of fame, so there's a clear jump from Don't Bother Me to his later stuff, just like there is a clear jump for John and Paul from some of the silly early stuff to Hide Your Love Away and Yesterday and so on.
It's pretty easy to write a song, all you really need are three chords and away you go, but practice is the key to anything, and so it was because of the early practice that enabled the Beatles songwriting to progress in the way that it did.
I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine
1.45am
19 September 2010
1.52am
25 November 2010
mr. Sun king coming together said:
You needed to sound snappish to make me realize My idiocity. Sorry to StarWisher.
That's quite all right, Mr. Sun King (Mixer) Coming Together.
1.54am
19 September 2010
7.03pm
Reviewers
14 April 2010
It's funny that I was reading the original post at the same time I was listening to my favorite cover, You Really Go a Hold On Me. While they did cover some great songs, I definitely prefer the originals.
I will say that the covers on the first 2 albums are awesome and they do rival the originals (just my opinion here). But once their songwriting improved so fast in such a short time (see A Hard Day's Nght) there was no comparison. As a matter of fact, if they were not so hard pressed for time in putting out a second album in 1964, Beatles For Sale probably could have been all originals as well (with the possible exception of a selection for Ringo). They just did not have the time to properly develop 14 original songs.
To the fountain of perpetual mirth, let it roll for all its worth. And all the children boogie.
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