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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
vonbontee said
Sorry, I refuse to accept that there is a Beatles lyric worse than “Love Me Do “.“Can we all agree…or not?” – I think that question’s been settled pretty definitively by now!
Well, Love Me Do was their first release.
Haha OK, fair enough. I once said the same thing to a co-worker who claimed that the Beatles were “overrated!” and illustrated by sarcastically reciting “Love, Love Me Do /You know I love you!” And I immediately started ranting and raving “First, that’s the first song they ever wrote. Second, it’s the worst song they ever wrote! Third, rock lyrics were generally crap in those days unless Chuck Berry was writing them! Fourth, lyrics weren’t the only thing that made the Beatles great! Fifth…” but he was already laughing, and said that he was really just trolling because he knew I’d freak out, and that he actually had a reasonably favourable impression of the band, that he quite liked the White Album in particular. Fun all around!
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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
vonbontee said
Sorry, I refuse to accept that there is a Beatles lyric worse than “Love Me Do “.“Can we all agree…or not?” – I think that question’s been settled pretty definitively by now!
Well, Love Me Do was their first release. Piggies was written after such lyrical masterpieces as Yesterday , A Day In The Life , and Eleanor Rigby , as well as being on the same album (and by the same Beatle) as While My Guitar Gently Weeps .
That is a very good point. Can’t believe they ditched Not Guilty for Piggies !
However, I still think Love Me Do is worse.
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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
plastic said
How many people voted for this list? Just curious.So far I am preferring Elvis Costello’s list
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What’s this Elvis Costello list?
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Elvis Costello made a list of his top 100 Beatles songs and it was in Rolling Stone. I didn’t agree with all his choices but he included quite a few in the top 100 that have already bitten the dust here So overall his list is probably closer to my subjective view than this one is
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plastic said
IveJustSeenAFaceo said
plastic said
How many people voted for this list? Just curious.So far I am preferring Elvis Costello’s list
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Elvis Costello made a list of his top 100 Beatles songs and it was in Rolling Stone. I didn’t agree with all his choices but he included quite a few in the top 100 that have already bitten the dust here So overall his list is probably closer to my subjective view than this one is
I didn’t know he did the list! I have the magazine and it credits the introduction to him but doesn’t say who picked the list.
I was gonna bring up the same RS list once we got to top 100.
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That should be interesting! I’ve never loved Elvis C but I certainly respect him. (And I’ve got a few of his albums o’course)
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9 February 2014
I’ll make some bold guesses here.
In My Life will be No. 1, and the George fans will guarantee that Here Comes The Sun and While My Guitar Gently Weeps get into the top 10, with Something in the Top 5.
As for the rest of the Top 5, it would have to be A Day In The Life , Hey Jude , and I’m going to go out on a limb and say Let It Be .
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9 February 2014
While I’m at it, the rest of the top 10 will include Ticket To Ride , Yesterday , and Eleanor Rigby .
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8 November 2012
I don’t think this forum’s that big on Yesterday . This definitely won’t look like the list you might be expecting.
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10 August 2011
@vonbontee
[with respect to “Michelle ” winning a Grammy for Best Song]
“ITSWD, are you baiting me into (yet again) using this forum to express my extreme anti-Grammy Awards scorn? ’cause I’ll do it, you know! “
Fair enough! the Grammy has always tended to represent the tastes of ‘old folks’, and this was especially true in the mid-60s.
So let’s look at another metric: the number of cover versions. At least that tells you what other musicians and performers think. Michelle has been covered countless times, far and wide, and in many different styles. I think it deserved to be in the top half. In my own personal list, I have it at 44 (helped by a big impact factor).
[As for Elvis Costello and Rolling Stone magazine, I don’t think it’s his personal list. I have that issue somewhere (if we’re talking about the same one), I can look it up eventually.]
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here is a VERY wild stab at the top 10:
1 – A Day In The Life
2 – Strawberry Fields Forever
3 – While My Guitar Gently Weeps
4 – In My Life
5 – Something
6 – Hey Jude
7 – I Am The Walrus
8 – Eleanor Rigby
9 – Here Comes The Sun
10 – Tomorrow Never Knows
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9 February 2014
Idk. I just have a feeling that people will lean in Yesterday ‘s favor. Ticket To Ride and Yesterday are the bolder ones that I have in the Top 10. The rest, I am pretty confident will end up where I predicted.
parlance said
I don’t think this forum’s that bit on Yesterday . This definitely won’t look like the list you might be expecting.parlance
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
@vonbontee
[with respect to “Michelle ” winning a Grammy for Best Song]
“ITSWD, are you baiting me into (yet again) using this forum to express my extreme anti-Grammy Awards scorn? ’cause I’ll do it, you know! “
Fair enough! the Grammy has always tended to represent the tastes of ‘old folks’, and this was especially true in the mid-60s.
Actually, I’d suspect the Grammys had more integrity in the mid-’60s! My chief complaint with them is that, for as long as I’ve been aware of them, they seem to regard huge record sales as the chief mark of greatness. How else to explain such timeless “Record of the Year” winners as Toto IV, Natalie Cole’s Unforgettable, or The Bodyguard soundtrack?
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21 November 2012
nzbeatlefan said
here is a VERY wild stab at the top 10:
1 – A Day In The Life
2 – Strawberry Fields Forever
3 – While My Guitar Gently Weeps
4 – In My Life
5 – Something
6 – Hey Jude
7 – I Am The Walrus
8 – Eleanor Rigby
9 – Here Comes The Sun
10 – Tomorrow Never Knows
I think you might actually not be far off with that.
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vonbontee said
Into the Sky with Diamonds said
@vonbontee
[with respect to “Michelle ” winning a Grammy for Best Song]
“ITSWD, are you baiting me into (yet again) using this forum to express my extreme anti-Grammy Awards scorn? ’cause I’ll do it, you know! “
Fair enough! the Grammy has always tended to represent the tastes of ‘old folks’, and this was especially true in the mid-60s.
Actually, I’d suspect the Grammys had more integrity in the mid-’60s! My chief complaint with them is that, for as long as I’ve been aware of them, they seem to regard huge record sales as the chief mark of greatness. How else to explain such timeless “Record of the Year” winners as Toto IV, Natalie Cole’s Unforgettable, or The Bodyguard soundtrack?
When Celine Dion beat Beck for Best Album in ’97, I threw the popcorn bowl at the TV. I was livid. Nowadays, I could care less who wins at the Grammys.
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@vonbontee [regarding the “Michelle ” discussion above]
“Actually, I’d suspect the Grammys had more integrity in the mid-’60s! My chief complaint with them is that, for as long as I’ve been aware of them, they seem to regard huge record sales as the chief mark of greatness. How else to explain such timeless “Record of the Year” winners as Toto IV, Natalie Cole’s Unforgettable, orThe Bodyguard soundtrack?”
Well doesn’t that bolster the value of “Michelle “? It wasn’t even released as a single, so it had zero record sales (except as part of Rubber Soul of course). If Grammy voters generally go with the big sales, they had to be REALLY be impressed with “Michelle ” to vote it Song of the Year.
Again, this is not to say that the song deserves to be in our Top 10 or that our tastes have to mesh with Grammy voters of 50 years ago, but I’m surprised that such a classic has not even made it to the top half of our list. That’s either a result of our small sample size or a sign that the song has not stood the test of time.
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