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A day in the life - Paul or John?
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This thread is locked. It became possibly the most heated debate this forum has ever had, encompassing opinions, debates, mud-slinging, personality clashes and arguments.

The thread largely stopped making sense when one user deleted most of his posts. Prior to that, the discussion was split between advocates for John and Paul singing the vocal part. Because these interpretations can only ever be subjective, it was impossible to come up with a definitive answer.

You’re welcome to argue your position till you’re blue in the face, but please don’t do it here. This thread will remain locked unless definitive information comes to light. In the meantime, please bask in the warm glow of knowledge that your opinion is the correct one, and everyone else’s is wrong.

Any new threads on this subject will be moved into this one. I don’t generally like censorship but this whole discussion makes my heart sink. Tomorrow may rain, but I’ll Follow The Sun .

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paulsbass said
Since we were thrown out of the message board by our admirable administrator (right you were!) I’d like to carry on with the discussion about the lead vocals on the “Aaaaah” part after Paul’s middle part.

Since Joe won’t publish it there I’d like to say to EltonJohnLennon that accusing me of a “nasty” attitude does indeed tell something about your own attitude.

And by calling Paul’s part “very simple” you proved again that you are very subjective and extremely biased towards John (Ben Folds called this part a “perfect piece of piano pop”). Why do you have a problem with admitting Paul sang that? I wouldn’t have a problem with John, he just doesn’t sing it. The high “aaah” in the background do sound very much like John (you see the difference between saying “I identify” and “sounds like”, do you??) since they are very nasal.

I meant that the last “aaa” sounds like John the most – it is still all Paul.

The dominant lead “aaaah” is without a doubt Paul, though it is totally buried in the “stereo remasters”. The “love” version sounds more like John, but the vocal only track reveals the truth – this is Paul. Remember, this is still “his” part, John returns with the last verse.

Since you are still trying to downsize Pauls contribution to the song (I LOVE John’s vocals!!) let me also mention his incredible piano part and the fantastic bass part.

Anyway, maybe we can get more (peaceful) discussions about “who sang what?”

I thought for a very long time that Paul sang the echoes in “Yellow submarine”, but then realized it was John. (No doubt with “A Day In The Life “, though!!)

To give some context, this follows on from the comments beneath this article: http://www.beatlesbible.com/so…..n-the-life

Normally I’m happy for people to say whatever they like (unless it’s truly imbecilic), but this seemed like a bit of a conversational loop. I’m not sure how much more there is to say, but feel free to chime in (here, not on the article page) if you think it was Paul/John singing the ‘aaah’ part after “Somebody spoke and I went into a dream”.

Oh, and Paulsbass/EltonJohnLennon, let’s keep it civil.

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paulsbass said:

Since we were thrown out of the message board by our admirable administrator (right you were!) I’d like to carry on with the discussion about the lead vocals on the “Aaaaah” part after Paul’s middle part.

Since Joe won’t publish it there I’d like to say to EltonJohnLennon that accusing me of a “nasty” attitude does indeed tell something about your own attitude.

And by calling Paul’s part “very simple” you proved again that you are very subjective and extremely biased towards John (Ben Folds called this part a “perfect piece of piano pop”). Why do you have a problem with admitting Paul sang that? I wouldn’t have a problem with John, he just doesn’t sing it. The high “aaah” in the background do sound very much like John (you see the difference between saying “I identify” and “sounds like”, do you??) since they are very nasal.

I meant that the last “aaa” sounds like John the most – it is still all Paul.

The dominant lead “aaaah” is without a doubt Paul, though it is totally buried in the “stereo remasters”. The “love” version sounds more like John, but the vocal only track reveals the truth – this is Paul. Remember, this is still “his” part, John returns with the last verse.

Since you are still trying to downsize Pauls contribution to the song (I LOVE John’s vocals!!) let me also mention his incredible piano part and the fantastic bass part.

 

Anyway, maybe we can get more (peaceful) discussions about “who sang what?”

I thought for a very long time that Paul sang the echoes in “Yellow submarine”, but then realized it was John. (No doubt with “A Day In The Life “, though!!)


 This is my favorite song of all time, i have analyzed everything of this song in all the versions, Love, Anthology DVD, Pepper 67′, Pepper 87′, Pepper 09′, Purple Chick, Ebbetts, The 9 Stereo Remixes made for this song, takes 1, 2, 4, 6 & 7, and multitracks, every overdub, the vocals ‘hums’, piano crash, the groovish and 15 KHz tune. Well, every part makes the song sublime. Paul’s section is one of my favorites, but in the take 6, when Paul’s do his section for the first time, but he done it wrong, he doesn’t sing nothing in the bridge before John’s last verse.

I have listened the vocal track from the original 4-track multitrack master, and it’s no doubt, that is John double-tracked with echo, along with Paul’s and George on back saying ”’ahhhh, uuuuh”.

That is a great song of John playing guitar and vocals, a-hard-days-night-john-6 along with Paul in the middle section, in the piano & bass, and doing back of John on the ahhh…part with George a-hard-days-night-paul-6a-hard-days-night-george-7, and Ringo’s best drumming ever a-hard-days-night-ringo-10.

 

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It’s never sounded like anything other than John’s voice doing those aahhs to me.

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paulsbass said:

What about your new book? Does it tell us more about the truth?


 

I’ve no plans to write a book, though I have a couple in mind that I’d like to write. If I ever finish this site I’ll give it some proper consideration.

I’ve no idea who’s singing that part. It’s always sounded like John to me, though I can hear elements of both of them in the isolated vocal. One thing I will add is that the vocals have enough echo on them to have been recorded at the same time as Lennon’s verses – McCartney’s middle section is a lot drier.

If I ever meet Paul it’ll be the first thing I’ll ask him about. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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“The movement I need is on my shoulder ??”

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I don’t understand why this matters so much, but it’s definately John.

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11 June 2010
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I believe it is John, too. It sounds like him, anyways.

 

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It sounds like John to me…

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I think it sounds mainly like John.

But, I’m sure we can all agree that it ISNT’ Ringo

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I would have to say John, though at around 2:58-3:00 in the vocal isolation posted, I do hear an element of Paul…
though, that may be just because there’s a possibility brought up that it may be him. Oy vey. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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Paulrus said:

I think it sounds mainly like John.

But, I’m sure we can all agree that it ISNT’ Ringo


 

Hahahaha! I think I love you, Paulrus!

 

I always thought it sounded a little like George, but, of course, I assumed it was John (they both have more of that nasal-ish hint than Paul, you know?). After reading this, though, I’ve been listening to that same segment of the song over and over again, trying to figure out who it is! Now you’ve got me wondering and I’m confused! a-hard-days-night-ringo-14 

 

I listened to that vocal track, too, and it’s equally confusing. a-hard-days-night-paul-10Grrrr..

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I noticed in The Beatles Rock Band that they portray only john singing the aaaah in the game, and i believe that the game is checked by those associated with The Beatles. Just a thought :/

12 June 2010
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Well, I just went and listened to it, and now it sounds a lot more like Paul… Gah, now I’m not sure. It depends on how I listen to it. Sometimes it sounds like John, and other times it sounds like Paul. I have no idea…a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

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I can’t tell if it’s Pahn or Joul.

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Upon further review – I say it’s Joul. Yes, definitely Joul.

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I’ll be honest, I’m not 100% sure who sings this part, but in my opinion, it seems to be John, because it seems ‘normal’ that he sing into the transition at this point, but more importantly, it just sounds like John.

 

But, hey, I’ve been wrong before. 😉

 

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Deadman posted this on the ADITL article, from Geoff Emerick’s book:

[Paul] explained that he wanted his voice to sound all muzzy, as if he had woken up from a very deep sleep … My way of achieving this was to deliberately remove a lot of the treble from his voice and heavily compress it to make him sound muffled. When the song goes into the dreamy section that John sings, the full fidelity is restored.

Although the overdubs to the middle section were being done separately from the main body of the song, it had already been edited into the four-track master, which made Richard [Lush]’s job of dropping in and out a bit tricky. Paul’s vocal, for example, was being dropped into the same track that contained John’s lead vocal, and there was a very tight drop-out point between the two–between Paul’s singing “…and I went into a dream” and John’s “ahhh” that starts the next section. Richard was quite paranoid about it–with good reason–and I remember him asking me to get on the talkback mic to explain the situation to Paul and ask him not to deviate from the phrasing that he had used on the guide vocal. I was really impressed when Richard did that–I thought it showed great maturity to be proactive that way. John’s vocal, after all, had such great emotion, and it also had tape echo on it. The thought of having to do it again and re-create the atmosphere was daunting…not to mention what John’s reaction would have been! Someone’s head would have been bitten off, and it most likely would have been mine. But Paul, ever professional, did heed the warning, and he made certain to end the last word distinctly in order to give Richard sufficient time to drop out before John’s vocal came back in. Listening carefully, you can actually hear Paul slightly rush the vocal; he even adds a little “ah” to the end of the word “dream” giving it a very clipped ending.

I know some of Emerick’s memories have been questioned by others who were there, but this seems particularly detailed and specific.

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paulsbass said:

Joe said:

I know some of Emerick’s memories have been questioned by others who were there, but this seems particularly detailed and specific.


 

This sounds very specific and convincing indeed, and I hate to sound nerdish or nitpicking or arrogant or whatever.

 

But there is still no doubt that Paul is singing that section. I agree that he didn’t sing the “aaah” right after his main part, but it’s a later overdub.

Again:

1) Logic: It’s still his part, it’s still his dream, that would make him the logical lead singer.

2) Audio: THE LEAD IS PAUL! Listen to his chest voice. Lennon sounds different.

3) Audio: The backing vocal (high “Uuuuhs” or “aaahs”, I just don’t remember right now) is definitely John. Another reason for Paul singing lead.

 

Sorry for being the spoilsport here, but I’m really, really sure I’m right about that.

Once more: Joe, what about the new book you got?? Does it say something about it?


I think facts are facts- it’s right there- quite detailed as Joe stated.
I think that’s the answer we’ve been looking for; one (Emerick) just doesn’t forget things like that. You wouldn’t switch around who-sang-what, I think it’s all there. george-martin  

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Even if you’re right, paulsbass, you’re certainly wrong to claim that there is “no doubt” that Paul is singing – there is obviously PLENTY of doubt, that’s why this thread exists! I have no doubt that you trust your own ears, and what you hear is what you hear, and that’s fine. But the same goes for the rest of us, and we aren’t convinced.

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