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Bernard Purdie Played Drums On Beatles Recordings!
7 October 2011
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Check this out! According to Purdie, he played the drums on 21 Beatle songs including 'She Love You'

The only thing I can think of is Dexter Jr. brought him into Capitol Records and had him overdub Ringo's drums on the American Releases only but I still have my doubts.

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The guy is talking absolute nonsense. Ringo never played on anything! Purdie played on 21 songs early on! Erm listen to the session tape bootlegs from the Please Please Me outtakes onwards and you have Ringo all over the songs. Plus there are no differences in the drumming between the us and uk tapes.

This is on of those really stupid claims to fame, he probably made the claim in the 70's, got away with such an idiotic statement and kept going unable to backtrack without looking a right fool, so kept repeating his inanities.

And even if you begin to think 'wow, this is big news' when Purdie was asked which ones he said 'um i cant say'. 

This absolute rubbish has actually irritated me.blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanie

 

Purdie actually sounds like a really good musician with a really impressive list of people who he has had worked with. Why he then made these claims is beyond me.

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Inner Light said:

Check this out! According to Purdie, he played the drums on 21 Beatle songs including 'She Love You'

The only thing I can think of is Dexter Jr. brought him into Capitol Records and had him overdub Ringo's drums on the American Releases only but I still have my doubts.

He played on some old Decca songs, ie over Pete Best. Never used.

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According to wiki Purdie also drummed on some of the Tony Sheridan recordings to give it a “punchier sound”. So thats Hamburg, Decca, and early EMI recordings. 

 

Leave it to a Beatle to answer the 21 song claims. Ringo “Well then, what was I doing in the studio? I've heard that rubbish before.  Everyone was expecting me to come out and fight it. You don't bother fighting that s**t.”

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8 October 2011
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I stopped reading it when he said that Brian paid him ten large to keep his mouth shut. I knew right then it was a load of horse dung. I couldn't imagine Brian ever paying anyone $10,000 for anything.

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The article did have one redeeming quality. When I scrolled down, I saw my favorite picture of Sir George.

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Other than that…a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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Zig said
I stopped reading it when he said that Brian paid him ten large to keep his mouth shut. I knew right then it was a load of horse dung. I couldn’t imagine Brian ever paying anyone $10,000 for anything.

brian-epstein

The article did have one redeeming quality. When I scrolled down, I saw my favorite picture of Sir George.

george-martin

Other than that…a-hard-days-night-paul-11

How much did Brian pay that lass who claimed Paul was the father of her kid – a paternity claim that lasted thru the decades? I’m just curious.

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Purdie has been debunked so many times it’s not even funny. The guy is a liar and a f*****g fool. What, was Ringo playing along to a backing track in all of that live and studio footage? :roll:

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meanmistermustard said
The guy is talking absolute nonsense. Ringo never played on anything! Purdie played on 21 songs early on! Erm listen to the session tape bootlegs from the Please Please Me outtakes onwards and you have Ringo all over the songs. Plus there are no differences in the drumming between the us and uk tapes.

This is on of those really stupid claims to fame, he probably made the claim in the 70’s, got away with such an idiotic statement and kept going unable to backtrack without looking a right fool, so kept repeating his inanities.

And even if you begin to think ‘wow, this is big news’ when Purdie was asked which ones he said ‘um i cant say’. 

This absolute rubbish has actually irritated me.blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanie

 

Purdie actually sounds like a really good musician with a really impressive list of people who he has had worked with. Why he then made these claims is beyond me.

Why? Because one could always get more famous or use more money. The reason why is easy.

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Linde said

meanmistermustard said
The guy is talking absolute nonsense. Ringo never played on anything! Purdie played on 21 songs early on! Erm listen to the session tape bootlegs from the Please Please Me outtakes onwards and you have Ringo all over the songs. Plus there are no differences in the drumming between the us and uk tapes.

This is on of those really stupid claims to fame, he probably made the claim in the 70’s, got away with such an idiotic statement and kept going unable to backtrack without looking a right fool, so kept repeating his inanities.

And even if you begin to think ‘wow, this is big news’ when Purdie was asked which ones he said ‘um i cant say’. 

This absolute rubbish has actually irritated me.blue-meanieblue-meanieblue-meanie

 

Purdie actually sounds like a really good musician with a really impressive list of people who he has had worked with. Why he then made these claims is beyond me.

Why? Because one could always get more famous or use more money. The reason why is easy.

But no-one (well no-one with a brain cell) would believe him so it only ends up with Purdie looking stupid and quite pathetic, at least get his facts straight and not claim he overdubbed Ringo. Is a bit of cash worth losing some of your credibility (some people obviously think it is going by the way some people live and how they act)?

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Yeah well apparently some dipshits think so. Because some people really don’t have or use their brains.

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Linde said
Yeah well apparently some dipshits think so. Because some people really don’t have or use their brains.

It would be nice if it was different tho. “Ah but at least they are happy” is what the normal, standard response is. Well a-hard-days-night-paul-11blue-meanie to that.

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Indeed. Stuff like that really annoys me and makes me want to pull my hair out, yet it amuses me that they don’t see how stupid they are. 

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meanmistermustard said
According to wiki Purdie also drummed on some of the Tony Sheridan recordings to give it a “punchier sound”. So thats Hamburg, Decca, and early EMI recordings. 

 

Leave it to a Beatle to answer the 21 song claims. Ringo “Well then, what was I doing in the studio? I’ve heard that rubbish before.  Everyone was expecting me to come out and fight it. You don’t bother fighting that s**t.”

 Bernard Purdie played on 3 Beatles songs for Atlantic Records- “Ain’t She Sweet ,” “If You Loved Me Baby,” and “Sweet Georgia Brown.”  Purdie did not play on any other Beatles recordings.  

25 November 2013
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This is one of those which is amusing the first time, but becomes tiresome the second time.  And the 3rd.  And the 29th…

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I kinda feel sorry for Purdie: A great drummer with a fine recorded track record behind him, he somehow feels that having respect within the industry and from musicians and a body of recorded work behind him isn’t enough. He deserves to be famous among regular people, famous like a celebrity, like…Ringo Starr ! So he makes up this story in the ’70s, at a time when the body of research into the Beatles’ recordings and performing legacy isn’t as exhaustive as it is today, and when he maybe assumes such a tale can’t ever be fairly easily debunked. And now he has to live with this story of his which nobody takes seriously.

And yet, and yet…that wholly plausible evidence of Jim Vallance’s that Purdie may indeed have enhanced Pete Best‘s drumming on the Atco versions of the Hamburg-era recordings is convincing indeed. Could it be that Purdie actually performed that work – and then later chose to exaggerate his contributions by coming up with this inflated figure of 21 songs (including “Yeah Yeah Yeah”), instead of just a handful? And claiming that it was “Brian Epstein himself” who supervised this bit of studio cosmetic work, insisting that it had to remain top-secret? And choosing to malign Ringo out of ignorance, perhaps because he doesn’t even know of the existence of Pete Best?

That’s what I personally choose to believe, just because I don’t like feeling embarrassed for someone of Purdie’s stature on his own behalf, being forced to constantly double-down after being caught in a lie. Far easier for me to imagine that it was a minor-but-legitimate claim blown up into a lie thanks to some exaggeration, plus some good-faith misinformation and faulty memory.

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Purdie played added some drums to the pre Ringo era (circa 1962) where Ringo was’nt fully in the band. Further they were songs that the Beatles were doing with Tony Sheridan, before they got famous. 

Oh yeah he did play on the Sgt. Pepper soundtrack (which incidentally was NOT the Beatles in 1978) , with the Peter Frampton and the Bee Gees doing Beatle songs.

Purdie was credited on the soundtrack album for Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (1978) and more recently he was the drummer for the 2009 Broadway revival of Hairand appeared on the associated Broadway cast recordin

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As a Los Angeles Studio Guitarist from the 80’s I’ve always been impressed with Purdy’s work.  But, I never ever believed he had anything to do with any of the original Beatle recordings.  Mainly because, George Martin, along with each member of the Beatles individually, along with the techs and engineers who ran those sessions, have repeatedly said it was Ringo on everything, but the few cuts that Paul played drums on, and of course their very first hit, which Ringo wasn’t available for.

It’s simple to find out the truth! All Purdy has to do is provide an invoice/bill/pay stub from either George Martin, and/or from Abbey Road Studios for any of the work he did there.  Because he was a Union Drummer, I would imagine the union would also have a paper trail for his getting paid, since I doubt he did those imaginary “ghost” sessions “off the books” or for free. 
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This is a publicity stunt to get Purdie attention, the Paul Is Dead theory has more ground than this, don’t believe Bernard, he’s trying to scam you guys into believing false information, I mean I could make up something like that.

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Every time I read or hear about this again, it strikes me as just indescribably sad that an accomplished musician like Bernard Purdie would feel the need to take credit for someone else’s work and, in the process, malign one of the finest drummers in rock. 

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The saddest part is that there’s photographic proof that Ringo played drums on She Loves You yet Bernard still insists that he played the part, it’d be like as if one of the members of the Wrecking Crew claimed they played bass on Paperback Writer .

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