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 I can in fact discount any and all ‘experts’ on ‘pop music’ and I am very relaxed indeed. I do have an axe in my hand, however. )

LIsting the a/b/a … what is that, a simplified notation for someone who can’t look at actual chord charts? 4/4 – wow! The other option is 3, right?

 I’m just too interested in my breakdown of later 1910 Fruitgum compositions to bovver reading these posts. After that,  I thought I might start dissecting some of the mid-period 13th Floor Elevators tunes, just the easy ones, don’t wanna get too deep.

 Then. for dessert, the first 30 seconds of the Rite of Spring…. not as impressive as Sgt. Peckers Bonyhead Brainfarts, of course….

Rubbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish!

The Rutles knocked off every ‘style’of da Beatles, probably inna few days. I have never run into a Beatles tune I couldn’t learn and explain in ten min. That was in the seventies. ANY serious analysis of Beatle’s music is bogus and pompous off the top.

How many times did they tell you this? Paul, John…. yet the myth tries to continue, via analysis of their guitar-based poptones. Unbelievable.

Ghod. What’s next – Rolling Stones?

Degrees in music are no excuse for this sort of thing, drop it and go after some real adult music if you want to sound knowledgeable.

There’s a book of classical guitar for Beatles sitting here. It’s fairly challenging to get the melody and harmony together. Read that, or look at the funny little golfclubs on the lines and you might learn something. What you trying to ‘learn’ I cannot figure out. Learn. Stuff about Beatles music. Well, Okay…..

I have no sympathy or mercy and will jump up and down on this sort of thing until it is dead. An analysis of one of the best punkrock bands of 1961.

Vastly insulting to legions of superior musicians who need attention, and have actually written some stuff worth looking at.

Thing is – some people seem to believe the crap you hear- Lennon/McCartney are the greatest songwriters etc. etc.  Once Schubert is mentioned, then you know you are hearing audio crapola. Not even close, two leagues below any music like Schubert, at least.  

Heh. Heh. This went on – exactly the same – forty years ago. So don’t get too chuffed off. Just go practice yer Harmfulmonic scale for A, so that if u play, say, She’s So Heavy you can think about slipping it in against the E7 there… but you won’t be ble to, cos Beatles music doesn’t work that way. It’s perfect and GodLike and worth getting on your knees and crawling across the desert for, and __-***** (Mockswell carried off by ambulance attendants) *

No. I actually have to deal with this stuff, constantly. You have no idea how many glassy-eyed 40+ year-olds have showed up, plugged in, and started pounding out Beatles tunes, ignoring all, as if by the simple hacking at at Fab4 tune, they are somehow in their league, or something. I can’t figure these people out.

 Having been around the lads…and many others like them… and knowing, yep, knowing how the whole thing went down… can’t let this go by – even though this is just chat on the endless internet, it is still annoying to wander in here and find the same attitude as I have to suffer through publically. (Suffer, suffer.)

 The Beatles tried very hard to expose the sham, the myth, but it has been denied and covered up. They were average musicians. They were

assisted, big-time, by better musicians. Okay? The proof is there, though you can forget it coming out openly.

 Went to a yard party t’other night. Some guys got up and guess what – Beatles. Saw her Standing, Ticket 2 Ride, etc.

Lousy, crappy – compared to the record. No problem there…. but, there were actual musicians present, and they were ignored.

This is common behavior, and I have had more than enough of it. The dream is over, you can’t extend Beatles into adult music-world.

I am sorely tempted to just start putting stuff up online, real, trouble-making factual stuff… so this kind of conversation is mild indeed.

Mild. Now… long-overdue analysis of ‘Mr. Henry’s Lollipop Shop’ 1969, by the Tricycle.

It is 4/4. It starts with ‘Ba-dat-dah’ – 4x… this recurs, but, sometimes it seems as if they are singing ‘Dat-dat-dah’ … is this signifigant? Maybe.

What is the Lollipop shop? -…is it a real Lollipop Shop, or a metaphor for something deeper?

‘Do what you want, don’t have to stop.” Clearly – this is Crowley. (Do what you wanta do)

So. A Magik Lollipop shop… Marshmallow Floss… Gingerbread dough…. The multi-tracked vox are … multi-tracked… because it sounds better probably…

There are triplets galore. The reverb setting on the Fender amp is between 5-6, approximately. This, combined with the room echo, creates a trippy sound that is as ‘Tricycle’ as it gets.

“you’ll be walking on the ceiling.’  Is this a reference to Spider-Man?

Then – an actual bar of two shows up! The organ plays a little circus theme, doo-dah, doo-dah… unusual, vaguely reminiscent of calliopes and country music.

The Tricycle were not known for odd time signatures, which six isn’t , but nevermind it sounds impressive anyway.

Just kidding, but watch it, or I will whip out Mockswell’s Silly Hammer and squish some Beeetles.

 ChoRtL*** This has no biz in a ‘song’ discussion but here goes anyway.

I’ve heard of Trolling, but dunno wotsit?

Beatles were very good friends here, for real, along with everybody else who has ever been ‘in’. It’s like being on a chaingang, you become very close, with a common enemy.  Some people may assume that The Beatles were something special, with their own special problems, and secrets, but of course the lads themselves were as you see them. There are much larger issues that override any pop singers, as you may well imagine.

 Do I like the Beatles?  No, I love ’em. They are the only guys who dared, yes, dared to take a shot at the hated ‘illuminati’ (Henceforth abbreviated to ‘Ill’)

 Future generations will love them even more, once they see what they have done. They actually managed to get the truth out, hidden in their music.

Spectacular! Beautiful. But of corset, until all relevant parties are deceased… the same repression will continue, and more people may well be gunned down, stabbed, poisoned – like has already happened a bunch of times. Then ,their children take over, and the slavery goes on. That’s the plan. 

 The illuminutbars are simply rich people, with no talent or work ethic – who own slaves. Me, Beatles, anyone. This is olde world stuff and I wanta end it.

For Beatles fans… welllllllllllll, they were just the best guys, forget the music for a minute, they put the truth out there when no-one else could. Certain people are not amused.

 The ‘secrets’ are there, in the tunes. Who I am, for example, and who the parents were, and just the workings of the whole machine. Scary.

Backwards. I don’t like it at all, it makes me queezy, but there ’tis.

This mess has been going on, happening to me, for over fifty years, no respite. Unpaid, for doing work that the ILL. leach mils. from. 

To this day. No matter how loud I scream. So, forget me, dig into the Fab4 and find for yerself what and who was there. Break that myth and make John’s ghost happy. 

 I have no money, no car, no proper instruments, nuthin, after 50 years of it, and this is how the people who do the actual work are treated. It’s slavery, it’s evil. 

 The songs I know inside-out, boy I just love a lot of them. Up until the group became too popular and they started writing fluff for grannies and babies, and even that they were good at. Them, and the un-named others…

 Sorry about dropping reality into the dreamworld internet, but where else is there? I’m in Canada, but may as well be Treblinka. This is the only outlet.

I’m still hoping to have a decent band together this year, there will be some Beatles tunes, and they will be done up proper or not at all. Best pop group ever.