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12.22pm
4 October 2024
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The intro of Rock And Roll Music is a bit weird, it’s like the “just let me hear some of that–” line is in a bar of 7/8, the rest is 4/4.
I also find it weird that although Dig A Pony is in 6/8, you can actually count 1-2-3-4- into the intro riff and it still works, that is until I realized that the intro can be broken down to a bar of 4/4 plus a bar of 2/4
10.20pm
7 November 2022
Offline think for myself said
The intro of Rock And Roll Music is a bit weird, it’s like the “just let me hear some of that–” line is in a bar of 7/8, the rest is 4/4.I also find it weird that although Dig A Pony is in 6/8, you can actually count 1-2-3-4- into the intro riff and it still works, that is until I realized that the intro can be broken down to a bar of 4/4 plus a bar of 2/4
6/8 can overlap with 4/4, but it’s kind of hard to explain how.
As for various Beatles songs where they put in a measure here or there in some exotic time — as a songwriter (and as a person) I’m kind of OCD, and I feel like, if one of my lyric lines seems to need to be in 5/4, I feel like maybe I should make the whole song 5/4 — or change that line to 4/4. I try to avoid mixing up different time signatures in the same song — unless it seems inspired to do so.
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10.50am
24 March 2014
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think for myself said
The intro of Rock And Roll Music is a bit weird, it’s like the “just let me hear some of that–” line is in a bar of 7/8, the rest is 4/4.I also find it weird that although Dig A Pony is in 6/8, you can actually count 1-2-3-4- into the intro riff and it still works, that is until I realized that the intro can be broken down to a bar of 4/4 plus a bar of 2/4
Dig A Pony sounds in plain and simple 3/4 to me. Even the intro, i do not find any 4/4 measure there 
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2.49pm
4 October 2024
Offline Shamrock Womlbs said
think for myself said
The intro of Rock And Roll Music is a bit weird, it’s like the “just let me hear some of that–” line is in a bar of 7/8, the rest is 4/4.
I also find it weird that although Dig A Pony is in 6/8, you can actually count 1-2-3-4- into the intro riff and it still works, that is until I realized that the intro can be broken down to a bar of 4/4 plus a bar of 2/4
Dig A Pony sounds in plain and simple 3/4 to me. Even the intro, i do not find any 4/4 measure there
So I did some research and found that you can count the intro of Dig A Pony as 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2 which are four bars of 6/8, but you can actually interpret this as two bars of regular 4/4 but with triplets, though Ringo’s drumming on the intro is in regular 3/4, 1-2-3, 1-2-3. the verses are indeed just regular 3/4.
3.47pm
24 March 2014
Offline think for myself said
So I did some research and found that you can count the intro of Dig A Pony as 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2 which are four bars of 6/8, but you can actually interpret this as two bars of regular 4/4 but with triplets, though Ringo’s drumming on the intro is in regular 3/4, 1-2-3, 1-2-3. the verses are indeed just regular 3/4.
But… why would you do that? the strong beat is the first one of every group of three 1-2-3, 1-2-3… It goes like this:
https://www.noteflight.com/mus…..dig-a-pony
Even they count 1-2-3 before start playing
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12.15am
4 October 2024
Offline Shamrock Womlbs said
think for myself said
So I did some research and found that you can count the intro of Dig A Pony as 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2, 1-2-3-4-1-2 which are four bars of 6/8, but you can actually interpret this as two bars of regular 4/4 but with triplets, though Ringo’s drumming on the intro is in regular 3/4, 1-2-3, 1-2-3. the verses are indeed just regular 3/4.
But… why would you do that? the strong beat is the first one of every group of three 1-2-3, 1-2-3… It goes like this:
https://www.noteflight.com/mus…..dig-a-pony
Even they count 1-2-3 before start playing
Yeah, you’re right on that.
7.50pm
14 December 2009
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Sea Belt said
Probably the most famous pop example of 3/4 time on top of 4/4:
Bill Withers’ “Ain’t No Sunshine”, great song! You’re talking about the “I know I know I know I know etc…” ×17 bit, no doubt…
And it just occurred to me now that John L does something very similar in the chorus of “John Sinclair”, using three beats to chant a two-syllable phrase (“Got-ta got-ta” in place of “I Know”) and repeating that many, many times over a long stretch, 16 bars or whatever. I’d say there was a very good chance that soul-music superfan John was consciously thinking of “Ain’t No Sunshine” while recording that “Sometime in NYC” album track; it would have been mere months after Withers’ hit took the world by storm.
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12.29am
7 November 2022
Offline Von Bontee said
Sea Belt said
Probably the most famous pop example of 3/4 time on top of 4/4:
Bill Withers’ “Ain’t No Sunshine”, great song! You’re talking about the “I know I know I know I know etc…” ×17 bit, no doubt…
And it just occurred to me now that John L does something very similar in the chorus of “John Sinclair”, using three beats to chant a two-syllable phrase (“Got-ta got-ta” in place of “I Know”) and repeating that many, many times over a long stretch, 16 bars or whatever. I’d say there was a very good chance that soul-music superfan John was consciously thinking of “Ain’t No Sunshine” while recording that “Sometime in NYC” album track; it would have been mere months after Withers’ hit took the world by storm.
Wow, nice example. I had never heard this song before today (which tells you something about my fanship of Lennon’s solo years). I still prefer Withers’ 3/4 overlay because it’s subtler yet in a way has more impact because of the stately slow tempo.
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12.14am
1 December 2009
Offline Oh, Withers’ song is much better than John’s bit of propaganda, no doubt – propaganda which ended up being entirely meaningless, since Sinclair was ultimately released upon appeal, before the song was even released!
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