5.21pm
15 May 2015
@Beatlebug SORRY — STOP THE PRESSES!!! I didn’t click on both video links because at first my computer only showed one link. I have no excuse except a foggy head from a cold… thanks again
The following people thank Pineapple Records for this post:
BeatlebugA ginger sling with a pineapple heart,
a coffee dessert, yes you know it's good news...
8.08am
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
[As posted in ‘Beatles News‘ so if you read it there don’t bother here.]
——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
Just when you thought all your Christmas pennies had been used up, news from a long thought extinct series reappears. Reportedly coming at Christmas, it’s ‘Wild Life’ and ‘Red Rose Speedway‘ in the ‘McCartney Archive’. Yes, it’s back. The never-ending series that six-months after everyone has given up giving a crap yawns back into life leaving all with a shrug of excitement. A series that when compared to other Beatles-related reissues looks so meagre in its contents it makes Scrooge seem generous with his 0.000001% discount on a bag of coal.
You thought four cd’s, a book and a DVD with plenty of outtakes was the standard of excitement, well, get ready for 16 outtakes over two discs, a couple of live tracks from a concert spread out over 8 other CD’s, a luxury book that you’ll look at twice then leave forever on a shelf, some replica pieces of paper that you never cared about, unseen photos that if they stayed that way no one would lose out and a couple of pieces of crappy plastic shaped into a guitar pick/paperclip/roadside side or whatever else can be chucked in to bulk up the price.
The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:
sir walter raleigh, The Hole Got Fixed"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
1.34pm
26 January 2017
I love McCartney outttakes but he hasnt really delivered any good releases in a while aside from Flowers In The Dirt . Hopefully these outtakes appear on spotify so I won’t have to overpay for two cds of outtakes.
"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"
-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues
"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"
-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl
2.08pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
sir walter raleigh said
I love McCartney outttakes but he hasnt really delivered any good releases in a while aside from Flowers In The Dirt . Hopefully these outtakes appear on spotify so I won’t have to overpay for two cds of outtakes.
Overpaying for these Archive releases is a given. ‘Flowers In The Dirt ‘ is one of the better ones; ‘Speed of Sound’, ‘Venus And Mars ‘, ‘Tug Of War ‘ and ‘Pipes Of Peace ‘ are dire in terms of the outtakes we got.
Maybe Paul has seen sense with ‘Pepper’, ‘Imagine ‘ and ‘The White Album ‘ sets but I doubt it. Presumably, we will see the tracks left off the revised ‘Red Rose Speedway ‘ like we did with ‘McCartney II ‘ but unlike that release, you’re going to be made to pay for it (all the ‘McCartney II ‘ tracks were available to purchase thru his website as downloads). ‘Wild Life ‘ will no doubt have the second disc containing the non-album singles from that time, a small handful of live tracks taken completely out of context, and a demo or two.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
4.06pm
18 April 2013
You have to draw the line somewhere, so I made a decision not to buy any of these McCartney boxes. I’m just collecting the 2-disc versions.
They are really milking us this fall.
The following people thank Expert Textpert for this post:
sir walter raleigh"If you're ever in the shit, grab my tit.” —Paul McCartney
11.50pm
Reviewers
17 December 2012
So, Paul has announced them for 7 December + Wings 1971-73 which includes both and adds the new Wings Over Europe.
Wild Life
Paul McCartney Archive Collection Limited Deluxe Edition
Numbered heavy weight kraft board slipcase. Cover silkscreen printed.
128-page essay book written by David Fricke.
Folio containing; 48-page facsimile notebook, 12 replica medium format Polaroid pictures, plus ‘The Ball’ album launch party invite.
CD portfolio containing 3CDs & 1DVD.
CD1 – Remastered Album:
1. Mumbo [2018 Remaster]
2. Bip Bop [2018 Remaster]
3. Love Is Strange [2018 Remaster]
4. Wild Life [2018 Remaster]
5. Some People Never Know [2018 Remaster]
6. I Am Your Singer [2018 Remaster]
7. Bip Bop (Link) [2018 Remaster]
8. Tomorrow [2018 Remaster]
9. Dear Friend [2018 Remaster]
10. Mumbo (Link) [2018 Remaster]
CD2 – Rough Mixes:
1. Mumbo [Rough Mix]
2. Bip Bop [Rough Mix]
3. Love Is Strange (Version) [Rough Mix]
4. Wild Life [Rough Mix]
5. Some People Never Know [Rough Mix]
6. I Am Your Singer [Rough Mix]
7. Tomorrow [Rough Mix]
8. Dear Friend [Rough Mix]
CD3 – Bonus Tracks:
1. Good Rockin’ Tonight [Home Recording]
2. Bip Bop [Home Recording]
3. Hey Diddle [Home Recording]
4. She Got It Good [Home Recording]
5. I Am Your Singer [Home Recording]
6. Outtake I
7. Dear Friend [Home Recording I]
8. Dear Friend [Home Recording II]
9. Outtake II
10. Indeed I Do
11. When The Wind Is Blowing
12. The Great Cock And Seagull Race [Rough Mix]
13. Outtake III
14. Give Ireland Back To The Irish
15. Give Ireland Back To The Irish (Version)
16. Love Is Strange [Single Edit]
17. African Yeah Yeah
DVD – Bonus Video:
1. Scotland, 1971
2. The Ball
3. ICA Rehearsals
4. Give Ireland Back To The Irish (Rehearsal)
Plus 24/96kHz unlimited high-resolution audio download of the remastered album and bonus audio
Red Rose Speedway
Paul McCartney Archive Collection Limited Deluxe Edition
Numbered edition, colour printed silver metalized board slipcase.
128-page essay book written by Amanda Petrusich. Including 5 replica handwritten lyric sheets, and a photo print.
64-page Wings Over Morocco photo book.
The Bruce McMouse Show folio containing; 14 replica hand-drawn sketches by Paul McCartney , facsimile dialogue sheets and the unreleased film restored and remixed on DVD and 5.1 HD Blu-Ray.
CD portfolio containing 3CDs & 1DVD.
[Should actually say 3CDs, 2DVDs & Blu-ray.]
CD1 – Remastered Album:
1. Big Barn Bed [2018 Remaster]
2. My Love [2018 Remaster]
3. Get On The Right Thing [2018 Remaster]
4. One More Kiss [2018 Remaster]
5. Little Lamb Dragonfly [2018 Remaster]
6. Single Pigeon [2018 Remaster]
7. When The Night [2018 Remaster]
8. Loup (1st Indian On The Moon) [2018 Remaster]
9. Medley: [2018 Remaster]
a) Hold Me Tight
b) Lazy Dynamite
c) Hands Of Love
d) Power Cut [2018 Remaster]
CD2 – “Double Album”:
1. Night Out
2. Get On The Right Thing
3. Country Dreamer
4. Big Barn Bed
5. My Love
6. Single Pigeon
7. When The Night
8. Seaside Woman
9. I Lie Around
10. The Mess [Live At The Hague]
11. Best Friend [Live In Antwerp]
12. Loup (1st Indian On The Moon)
13. Medley:
a) Hold Me Tight
b) Lazy Dynamite
c) Hands Of Love
d) Power Cut
14. Mama’s Little Girl
15. I Would Only Smile
16. One More Kiss
17. Tragedy
18. Little Lamb Dragonfly
CD3 – Bonus Audio:
1. Mary Had A Little Lamb
2. Little Woman Love
3. Hi, Hi, Hi
4. C Moon
5. Live And Let Die
6. Get On The Right Thing [Early Mix]
7. Little Lamb Dragonfly [Early Mix]
8. Little Woman Love [Early Mix]
9. 1882 [Home Recording]
10. Big Barn Bed [Rough Mix]
11. The Mess
12. Thank You Darling
13. Mary Had A Little Lamb [Rough Mix]
14. 1882 [Live In Berlin]
15. 1882
16. Jazz Street
17. Live And Let Die [Group Only, Take 10]
DVD1 – Bonus Video:
1. Music Videos
2. James Paul McCartney TV Special
3. Live And Let Die [Live In Liverpool]
4. Newcastle Interview
DVD2 – Bonus Film:
1. The Bruce McMouse Show
5.1 Surround Dolby Digital, 16bit 48kHz/PCM Stereo, 24bit 48kHz
Blu-ray – Bonus Film:
1. The Bruce McMouse Show
5.1 Surround DTS-HD Master Audio, 24bit 96kHz/PCM Stereo 24bit 96kHz
Plus 24/96kHz unlimited high-resolution audio download of the remastered album and bonus audio
Wings 1971-73
Paul McCartney Archive Collection Limited Deluxe Edition
Both Wild Life and Red Rose Speedway Limited Deluxe Editions, plus:
Exclusive and numbered edition, 7-colour screen print on corrugated board.
Exclusive Wings Over Europe 96-page photo book with screenprinted cover.
Facsimile of the Wings Over Europe 1972 European tour programme.
Brand new stereo mix of tracks played on the 1972 tour on CD.
Wings Over Europe
1. Big Barn Bed [Live In Newcastle]
2. Eat At Home [Live At The Hague]
3. Smile Away [Live In Berlin]
4. Bip Bop [Live At The Hague]
5. Mumbo [Live In Antwerp]
6. Blue Moon Of Kentucky [Live At The Hague]
7. 1882 [Live In Berlin]
8. I Would Only Smile [Live In Antwerp]
9. Give Ireland Back To The Irish [Live In Groningen]
10. The Mess [Live In Berlin]
11. Best Friend [Live In Antwerp]
12. Soily [Live In Berlin]
13. I Am Your Singer [Live At The Hague]
14. Seaside Woman [Live In Groningen]
15. Wild Life [Live At The Hague]
16. My Love [Live At The Hague]
17. Mary Had A Little Lamb [Live At The Hague]
18. Maybe I’m Amazed [Live In Groningen]
19. Hi, Hi, Hi [Live At The Hague]
20. Long Tall Sally [Live In Groningen]
Plus 24/96kHz unlimited high-resolution audio download of the remastered album and bonus audio
Wild Life and Red Rose Speedway will also be available on:
2CD – Special Edition
2LP – 180 Gram vinyl with MP3 download card
Digital Download/Streaming – Standard & Special Edition
Plus
A 2LP recreation of the Red Rose Speedway original “Double Album” on 2LP – 180 Gram vinyl with MP3 download card
EDIT: Indeed I Do has been made available as a teaser for Wild Life :
and the group only take 10 of Live And Let Die for Red Rose Speedway :
The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:
sir walter raleigh"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
10.14am
25 August 2012
Well, color me surprised. Just when I was about to declare this whole thing dead, they go and do this.
Repeating tracks for the ‘double album’ disc of RRS seems a little awkward in the age of playlists, as do the redundant inclusions of “Little Woman Love” and “Country Dreamer” after having previously been included on the reissues of Ram and Band On The Run , respectively. And, alas, no “Henry’s Blues.”
The following people thank Duke_of_Kirkcaldy for this post:
sir walter raleigh12.50pm
Reviewers
17 December 2012
Given the almost universal shrug of indifference this has been met with, it’s surprising Paul seems to have learnt so little from the deluxe releases of Pepper & the White (we may not have heard it yet but he has) and, to a lesser degree, what Yoko’s done with Imagine .
All three of those have been met with genuine excitement here, and the two so far released have not disappointed, while the third is looking highly unlikely to.
And then Paul trots back on for his slice in this period of reissue madness where goodies are dropping Here, There And Everywhere to be met with a collective sigh of – as if a heckler greeting Donovan at a Secret Policeman’s Ball – “Oh! We thought this was dead!”
“Not yet!” grins Paul. “Not yet.”
And yet again the latest additions to this “limping dog” (as Johnny might have called it) of a reissue program does nothing but disappoint. I don’t mind all the ephemera that comes with them, the ephemera often adds to the whole experience when the audio contents are got right but, sadly, Paul once again fails to deliver on getting anywhere near what these sets could and should have been.
Nothing pisses me off more with any archive release than an under-utilised disc time-wise (apart from the discs that have the original release) but take a look at disc 2 on Wild Life – 8 rough mixes. 8! What are the chances that uses more than 30 minutes of the 80 available? Certainly no more than 40. All that wasted space. Is Paul really suggesting he has nothing left in the archive from the Wild Life period that we would want to hear legally that might not fill that wasted space?
Paul’s competing with Dylan, Yoko’s Imagine and Apple’s new approach and is falling badly short. You’d think he might’ve learnt something from overseeing The Beatles deluxe sets the past couple of years. But, alas, it seems no.
He could have changed course here, started to make this series worthwhile, but again it seems, alas, no.
People have debates about whether him continuing to release new music and to perform is damaging his reputation. Hell, no! Least not half as much as the cack-handed way he undermines his back catalogue and archive with his continually badly curated revisits to work that reputation is built on.
The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:
sir walter raleigh, The Hole Got Fixed"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
10.13pm
25 August 2012
Truthfully, I wasn’t expecting a whole lot for Wild Life , given the lack of talk about unreleased tracks from those sessions over the years. Thus, this actually exceeded my expectations. As far as not utilizing all disc space, yeah, it’s kind of stupid (though this practice goes all the way back to the McCartney/McCartney II reissues), but it’s a moot point for me, since I’m just buying the tracks digitally.
4.40am
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
The big issue here will get how much these cost.
John’s ‘Imagine ‘ with 4 Cds, 2 Blu-ray’s and a book is around £66 on Amazon, The Beatles ‘White Album ‘ is £125; surely Paul can’t charge over £100 now for the boxes. Photocopies of merchandise and a special picture book don’t warrant the top level pricing structure.
Are the mixes on disc two of ‘Red Rose Speedway ‘ the same as disc one except it’s the original double album (even tho the tracklisting doesn’t match acetates from the time)? If so it’s yet another massive rip-off in an age of downloads and playlists.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
5.02am
Reviewers
17 December 2012
The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:
sir walter raleigh"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
12.54pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
Ron Nasty said
Amazon have Wild Life for £129.99 and RRS for £159.99. Couldn’t find Wings 1971-73 on there yet but uDiscoverMusic have it £319.99.The argument that would be made for the price point is that they are limited editions and as such are charged for accordingly.
Total and utter BS.
‘RRS’ being priced at £50 more than ‘Pepper’ in their super-deluxe forms, that cannot be argued for in any sensible form and surely must come down before it’s released.
It’s almost £100 more than the ‘Imagine ‘ super-deluxe or whatever it was called!!
Can only think that Paul’s representatives have been sitting down with Apple’s merchandise department to figure out the pricing as there is no justification for such insane costings except for pure greed ensuring that they cover the cost of producing the sets. Absolutley no change i’ll be paying £160 for 3 cds and some movies (don’t care about the books or pieces of paper that mean nothing).
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
9.26pm
18 April 2013
12.58am
25 August 2012
meanmistermustard said
Are the mixes on disc two of ‘Red Rose Speedway ‘ the same as disc one except it’s the original double album (even tho the tracklisting doesn’t match acetates from the time)? If so it’s yet another massive rip-off in an age of downloads and playlists.
I’m sure they would’ve given some indication if they were different… right? And, indeed, this track listing is definitely different from the other couple proposed listings for the double album I’ve seen; the medley was never on any of them, while both “1882” and “Jazz Street” *were.*
7.16pm
10 August 2017
12.51pm
26 January 2017
I’m contemplating buying the Red Rose Speedway 2 disc vinyl with sessions, but the session disc is just a singles compilation with a few studio and live outtakes on side B. Not worth the 40$ asking price if you ask me. Still, I’ll most likely use this 50$ record store gift card to buy it unless someone talks me out of it in time.
"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"
-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues
"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"
-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl
12.55pm
15 November 2018
sir walter raleigh said
I’m contemplating buying the Red Rose Speedway 2 disc vinyl with sessions, but the session disc is just a singles compilation with a few studio and live outtakes on side B. Not worth the 40$ asking price if you ask me. Still, I’ll most likely use this 50$ record store gift card to buy it unless someone talks me out of it in time.
I spent $40 on music yesterday. It’s your choice.
The following people thank 50yearslate for this post:
sir walter raleighLove one another.
- - -
(I'm Fiddy, not Walrian)
- - -
2018: 2019: 2020:
5.19pm
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
I haven’t bothered with either as if I did I would want the additional tracks yet the two-disc editions are rubbish due to not getting all the additional tracks and the deluxe versions are a complete waste of money.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
2.27am
26 January 2017
The deluxe set’s price is absurd. I would love to hear those sessions but Paul seriously needs to figure out the real value of his box sets. Compared to the White Album , Imagine , Blood On The Tracks, Friends & 20/20 releases it is impossible to justify Paul’s asking price . So many delightful sets of sessions for a much better value around the same time. I can only hope they put together some form of digital release for a reasonable price if they see poor sales from these releases, which I believe they will.
"The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles!"
-Bob Dylan, Subterranean Homesick Blues
"We could ride and surf together while our love would grow"
-Brian Wilson, Surfer Girl
4.54am
Reviewers
Moderators
1 May 2011
sir walter raleigh said
The deluxe set’s price is absurd. I would love to hear those sessions but Paul seriously needs to figure out the real value of his box sets. Compared to the White Album , Imagine , Blood On The Tracks, Friends & 20/20 releases it is impossible to justify Paul’s asking price . So many delightful sets of sessions for a much better value around the same time. I can only hope they put together some form of digital release for a reasonable price if they see poor sales from these releases, which I believe they will.
There won’t be as then everyone will buy the digital sets and clearly, if you wish all the music then you are having to buy the super deluxe or whatever it’s called.
As was pointed out elsewhere on the ‘Wild Life ‘ set there are outtakes which consist of Paul strumming his guitar for 10 and 13 seconds. These might be the first guitar notes of what led to one of Paul’s most incredible songs but that’s just taking the piss.
"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)
1 Guest(s)