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The 'Paul is dead' myth
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LoveUlikeGuitars said
Quite apart from everything else, it’s safe to say that if Paul was really Faul, Heather Mills would’ve spilled the beans by now to make more $$$ a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

She received death threats and lives in fear.

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If there weren’t so many wonderful pictures of Paul in this conversation today, I’d really be cross by now. Silver lining. a-hard-days-night-john-1 stuart-sutcliffe

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Sceptic said

LoveUlikeGuitars said
Quite apart from everything else, it’s safe to say that if Paul was really Faul, Heather Mills would’ve spilled the beans by now to make more $$$ a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

She received death threats and lives in fear.

Evidence?

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Should you want to discuss this subject, @Sceptic, you are going about it wrong.

Creating new threads only to see them deleted, what is the point?

Joe rarely bans people, but you could be about to become the fastest if you don’t change your approach. You are acting like a troll, and disrespecting this forum and its members.

Don’t expect to convert many, or any, but please respect this forum and stop s******g all over it.

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Sceptic said

LoveUlikeGuitars said
Quite apart from everything else, it’s safe to say that if Paul was really Faul, Heather Mills would’ve spilled the beans by now to make more $$$ a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

She received death threats and lives in fear.

Didn’t stop her from going rogue and accusing Paul of every sin known to mankind. To accuse him of being a fake and an imposter would’ve been the cherry on top of her cake if she wanted to take that route. 

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Oh, Mockswell, where are you? You learned to keep PID to this thread. Maybe you can teach Sceptic to do the same.

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JPM-Fangirl said
Contact lenses weren’t very common back then, and highly uncomfortable. Coloured contact lenses weren’t available until 1982. 

Paul’s eyes often looked dark, and they often did not. Case in point (warning: picture overload):

 

 

PRE-1966

Hazel/light brown:

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Hazel with green:

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Brown:

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Hazel:

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Dark brown:

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Brown:

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Even darker brown:

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Green/hazel:

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Hazel:

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I could go on… In fact, I’d love to. I’m not in any way obsessed by Paul’s beautiful eyes… a-hard-days-night-paul-7 

 

 

Anyway, now that we’ve got that one out of the way, what other ‘discrepancies’ should we be able to see?

Earlobes, ear cartillage structure, nose much more hooked (in unaltered photos), jawline, lips, wider mouth than original Paul,  2 or 3 inches increase in height, larger head, longer face, different eye shape (original Paul’s go down further at the outer corners, had droopier lids, and more feminine eyelashes).

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LoveUlikeGuitars said
I’ve read that John was very aversive to contacts as they weren’t as comfy as they are these days. So, I’m sure that Paul didn’t go down that route either. I guess it’s in the 90s that they became easier to use. 

EDIT: Besides, if we go by your assumption of tinted contact lenses (which I’m not really sure existed then), why would he wear it for one occasion and not for the other if he wanted to keep his “real” identity under wraps?

Don’t know, to see if people noticed?

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Evidence, please. I would love to see images which clearly show the differences you mention.

 

Also, I would like you to answer my question. With your forensic background, you should be able to tell me if these are two people, or the same person. And please, do share what made you come to your conclusion in this case.

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These too, please.

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JPM-Fangirl said

Sceptic said

LoveUlikeGuitars said
Quite apart from everything else, it’s safe to say that if Paul was really Faul, Heather Mills would’ve spilled the beans by now to make more $$$ a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

She received death threats and lives in fear.

Evidence?

She said so in an interview. I can tell fear when I hear it.

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P.S. @Sceptic You’ve told us in the other thread that you’re a forensic investigator. What would you say if I told you I’m Paul’s niece? 

I’d be sceptical. Also, I said I am a forensic analyst, not investigator.

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Surely if Paul died, then they would try to cover it up a bit more and not make obvious mistakes like the wrong eye colour?!?

If they can find someone who looks identical (multiple plastic surgeries isn’t that perfect even these days), then surely they would make sure that he always had the tinted contact lenses in (the ones that didn’t exist yet).

A scheme this well thought out wouldn’t make dumb errors like that (you’re really not that ingenious to notice it), there are factors that you’ve blatantly chosen to ignore called lighting and camera angles.

I would love to agree with you but your theory is evidently not thought out at all so I can’t.

And yeah, manipulating every single photo that was taken of him before digital software existed is really simple too.a-hard-days-night-paul-3

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Ron Nasty said
Should you want to discuss this subject, @Sceptic, you are going about it wrong.

Creating new threads only to see them deleted, what is the point?

Joe rarely bans people, but you could be about to become the fastest if you don’t change your approach. You are acting like a troll, and disrespecting this forum and its members.

Don’t expect to convert many, or any, but please respect this forum and stop s******g all over it.

I’m sorry, I am new to this forum. What should I be doing? Not creating a new thread when I want to post something? Feedback please. I am being respectful. I am answering questions politely and respectfully. I thought this was the PID theory forum. Should I not start new threads? What do you do, just keep a long one going? Please advise @Ron Nasty 
 

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You could start by answering people’s questions, @Sceptic. Several of us have asked you things, but so far, you’re very selective in your answers.

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@Sceptic said

Ron Nasty said
Should you want to discuss this subject, Sceptic, you are going about it wrong.

Creating new threads only to see them deleted, what is the point?

Joe rarely bans people, but you could be about to become the fastest if you don’t change your approach. You are acting like a troll, and disrespecting this forum and its members.

Don’t expect to convert many, or any, but please respect this forum and stop s******g all over it.

I’m sorry, I am new to this forum. What should I be doing? Not creating a new thread when I want to post something? Feedback please.
 

You have had constant requests today to keep discussion of this subject to this thread, and warned by @Joe that should you start posting on it elsewhere to expect those posts to be deleted, it doesn’t take much to realise that includes creating new threads on the subject.

Those threads that have been deleted were not because of what you posted, but because you created new threads to post the material rather than post it here.

Post those things here.

Though, I have to say, I hope you have more interest in The Beatles than just wanting to post on this subject, because that will get old very quickly. We’re happy to respond, even if you consider it dismissively – and you have to accept that the vast majority here are not believers.

I say this with a little trepidation, but I’d like to see you talk about more than Paul/Faul. Surely it isn’t your only interest in The Beatles?

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JPM-Fangirl said
Evidence, please. I would love to see images which clearly show the differences you mention.

 

Also, I would like you to answer my question. With your forensic background, you should be able to tell me if these are two people, or the same person. And please, do share what made you come to your conclusion in this case.

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These too, please.

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Surely if Paul died, then they would try to cover it up a bit more and not make obvious mistakes like the wrong eye colour?!?

If they can find someone who looks identical (multiple plastic surgeries isn’t that perfect even these days), then surely they would make sure that he always had the tinted contact lenses in (the ones that didn’t exist yet).

A scheme this well thought out wouldn’t make dumb errors like that (you’re really not that ingenious to notice it), there are factors that you’ve blatantly chosen to ignore called lighting and camera angles.

I would love to agree with you but your theory is evidently not thought out at all so I can’t.

And yeah, manipulating every single photo that was taken of him before digital software existed is really simple too.a-hard-days-night-paul-3

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JPM-Fangirl said

Evidence, please. I would love to see images which clearly show the differences you mention.

 

Also, I would like you to answer my question. With your forensic background, you should be able to tell me if these are two people, or the same person. And please, do share what made you come to your conclusion in this case.

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These too, please.

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JPM-Fangirl said

Evidence, please. I would love to see images which clearly show the differences you mention.

 

Also, I would like you to answer my question. With your forensic background, you should be able to tell me if these are two people, or the same person. And please, do share what made you come to your conclusion in this case.

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These too, please.

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JPM-Fangirl said

Evidence, please. I would love to see images which clearly show the differences you mention.

 

Also, I would like you to answer my question. With your forensic background, you should be able to tell me if these are two people, or the same person. You want a serious answer when you are giving me a photo of a man and a woman to compare when I click to edit? What’s with that?

Two photos: one after significant weight loss and time between photos. There is little to go on from the information in the photo. No ears for comparison, cheek structure impossible to see. Eyebrows similar shape and colour. Nose could be similar, but lighting and angle make it difficult to make an accurate assumption. Women’s eyeshape similar, chin shape similar. May be the same person. Inconclusive.

The two men are different  people. Different hairline, ear height in relation to eyes different. Man on right’s eyes droop at the corners. Different lines around the eyes.

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Do what we have asked. Keep all things even **remotely** related to PID in this thread.

If you like other Beatles conspiracies, we have a thread for you. Check it out https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..-theories/ Just keep posts related to that theme in THAT thread.

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JSceptic said

 You want a serious answer when you are giving me a photo of a man and a woman to compare when I click to edit? What’s with that?

Since you seem to be looking for the answer “not the same”, I guess the two women you have publicly posted is, yes they are the same woman, one after significant weight loss and time between photos. There is little to go on from the information in the photo. No ears for comparison, cheek structure impossible to see. Eyebrows similar shape and colour. Nose could be similar, but lighting and angle make it difficult to make an accurate assumption. Women’s eyeshape similar, chin shape similar.

MOD NOTE: I took the repeated part out. The quoting must have had a hiccup.

Well, you’re using similar comparisons to say Paul and Paul are not the same person, so then you should be able to do the same with these. They’re obviously two different comparisons. One of a woman (or two) and one of a man (or two). You’ve given your thoughts on the first one, how about the second?

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Ahhh Girl said
Do what we have asked. Keep all things even **remotely** related to PID in this thread.

If you like other Beatles conspiracies, we have a thread for you. Check it out https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..-theories/ Just keep posts related to that theme in THAT thread.

Don’t comparisons go a long way to being relevant to PID theory?

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