12.54am
27 March 2015
Pineapple Records said
As for Heather being an unreliable person of dubious integrity; that may well be, but does not necessarily mean that the particular allegations she made in those interviews are false.
Even still, she didn’t specify the nature of her ‘secret’, did she? It could be anything. It definitely doesn’t support the PID theory. For all we know, she could be talking about a slew of kids he fathered during his Beatle days (which he probably did), something highly illegal he’s done (which he probably has), or who knows what. Just because Heather goes on a rant about a box of evidence which would shock the world, doesn’t mean she’s referring to PID.
But, for argument’s sake, what do you think? What’s Heather’s big secret, and has Paul been killed/replaced?
Formerly Known As JPM-Fangirl -- 2016
'Out There' - 07-06-2015 - Ziggo Dome Amsterdam -- 'One On One' - 12-06-2016 - Pinkpop Festival Landgraaf
5.21am
22 September 2014
I like the lacuna reference. A search of all posts and topics everywhere reveals only one other appearance of the word. Not even the renowned wordsmith Funny Paper graced us with that one before.
The following people thank georgiewood for this post:
Ron Nasty, Pineapple RecordsI say in speeches that a plausible mission of artists is to make people appreciate being alive at least a little bit. I am then asked if I know of any artists who pulled that off. I reply, 'The Beatles did'.
Kurt Vonnegut, Timequake, 1997
5.35am
Reviewers
17 December 2012
I see what you done there! LOL! Genius!
One for the funniest post list methinks!
"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
6.20pm
15 May 2015
JPM-Fangirl said
Pineapple Records said
As for Heather being an unreliable person of dubious integrity; that may well be, but does not necessarily mean that the particular allegations she made in those interviews are false.Even still, she didn’t specify the nature of her ‘secret’, did she? It could be anything. It definitely doesn’t support the PID theory. For all we know, she could be talking about a slew of kids he fathered during his Beatle days (which he probably did), something highly illegal he’s done (which he probably has), or who knows what. Just because Heather goes on a rant about a box of evidence which would shock the world, doesn’t mean she’s referring to PID.
But, for argument’s sake, what do you think? What’s Heather’s big secret, and has Paul been killed/replaced?
Well, I like to approach these things analytically (if I’m going to approach them at all; I can think of a lot of other things more interesting to spend my time with than the Paul is Dead myth — though that’s relative to how much time one spends). So I like to rack up the pros and cons and analyze their relative weight. The weight in favor of the Paul is Alive claim is far greater than the converse; that’s my overall general opinion.
To me, two of the strongest facts favoring Paul is Alive are: Paul’s eyes, and Paul’s musical genius. His eyes look unique; nobody I’ve ever seen has eyes quite like that — pre- and post-1967 “accident”. To find a “double” with eyes like that seems outlandish to me.
Next, while the post-1967 Paul’s musical talent is markedly better than the pre-1967, so is Lennon’s and George’s, and one can reasonably chalk that progression up to growing as an artist. Again, to find a “double” who just happens to be that amazingly talented in bass, guitar, keyboards, singing, and songwriting boggles the mind and strains credulity.
Beyond that, I also do find his pre- and post-1967 personality & charm to be too similar to make a “double” plausible; though that is a weaker argument than the other two.
That said, the accumulation of “clues” — audio and visual (from recordings, album covers, & lyrics) — is so copious and odd, that it seems something was going on. It’s doubly odd, then, that the Beatles have always affected an attitude of bafflement and innocence; it just smells disingenuous. One sound expert interviewed in one of those youtubes I saw said that while he doesn’t believe the PiD hoax, he can’t believe all the clues were mere coincidental artifacts of sound and/or imagination of credulous listeners, either. (One of the youtubes had a sound recording of an interesting American TV show from the 1970s featuring the famous attorney F. Lee Bailey conducting a “mock trial” where he interviewed various witnesses and experts — including Paul’s brother Michael, Jane Asher’s brother, Alan Klein, a sound engineer, etc.)
As for the Heather thing, she said she was deeply betrayed and that it went way beyond infidelity. Infidelity is a serious betrayal; what could possibly be “way beyond” infidelity? If she’s not lying, it would have to be something over-the-top bad. Secondly, the fact that she didn’t want to specify what it was either indicates it was something strangely serious, or she’s perpetrating a flagrant lie. It’s just me, but I don’t like to impulsively assume one thing when there are two divergent possibilities. I don’t mind leaning toward the likelihood that she was lying because she does seem to be a scuzzball of slimy lack of integrity; but to assert that with certitude seems to go too far.
At the end of the day, unless one takes a stand in favor of Paul is Alive and simply stops thinking about any doubts, one is left with a lingering residue of paradox or mystery. This could be one reason why the PiD people tend to lurch into the supernatural, with shades of the “Illuminati” or other spiritual explanations (example, that the Beatles went to India to try to coax Paul’s posthumous spirit from the afterlife back into a new body) — because they sense that a mere natural explanation isn’t enough to account for what would have to be overcome to explain the objections to the PiD thesis.
The following people thank Pineapple Records for this post:
Beatlebug, The Hippie ChickA ginger sling with a pineapple heart,
a coffee dessert, yes you know it's good news...
6.31pm
15 May 2015
georgiewood said
I like the lacuna reference. A search of all posts and topics everywhere reveals only one other appearance of the word. Not even the renowned wordsmith Funny Paper graced us with that one before.
I got that from that Lion King song — you know, “Lacuna Matata”…
The following people thank Pineapple Records for this post:
georgiewood, pepperlandA ginger sling with a pineapple heart,
a coffee dessert, yes you know it's good news...
8.29am
1 November 2013
I was reading Wikipedia and O found that John’s Great Grandpa James Lennon was born in 1829 yet never died so I am thinking that James Lennon wanted to get to know his great grandson and so he used black magic to swap bodies with Paul and that is how the Paul is dead myth came about.
The following people thank Starr Shine? for this post:
Beatlebug, Little Piggy Dragonguy, pepperland, Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^<, Merch, BeatleSnutIf you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.
7.59am
1 November 2013
Starr Shine? said
Sceptic said
Round face to long. Different nose. Two inches taller.
Puberty.
At 24?
Not any less strange than being replaced by the world’s most deticaded actor.
The following people thank Starr Shine? for this post:
Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^<If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.
8.13am
27 April 2015
8.34am
27 April 2015
Responding to @Sceptic here:
I don’t know how to quote your post from the Miscellaneous questions thread, pictures and all…
However,
Paul was always taller than John & George (Ringo as well, obviously). He was the tallest Beatle. Look at the MBE video where they are showing off their medals outside the Buckingham Palace, you can clearly see that he is half an inch taller than John.
As for the differences, I don’t really see it. His cheeks are a bit thinner, but that’s all..and he’s changed his hairstyle which makes all the difference that there is, which isn’t much.
The following people thank O Boogie for this post:
Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^<
For tomorrow may rain, so I'll follow the Sun
8.46am
27 March 2015
Plus, when you look at pictures of Paul in his more recent years, and compare them to his pre-Beatles photos, it’s plain to see it’s the same bloke. As he ages, he looks more and more like he did in his late teens.
The following people thank Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^< for this post:
The Hippie Chick, Little Piggy DragonguyFormerly Known As JPM-Fangirl -- 2016
'Out There' - 07-06-2015 - Ziggo Dome Amsterdam -- 'One On One' - 12-06-2016 - Pinkpop Festival Landgraaf
9.01am
1 November 2013
JPM-Fangirl said
Plus, when you look at pictures of Paul in his more recent years, and compare them to his pre-Beatles photos, it’s plain to see it’s the same bloke. As he ages, he looks more and more like his did in his late teens.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. He’s probably the only man who ages younger.
The following people thank Starr Shine? for this post:
Ahhh Girl, Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^<If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.
10.08am
1 November 2013
Sceptic said
Joe said
@Sceptic said
Ahhh Girl said
The Paul is Dead thread is here: https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..l-is-dead/ Please discuss the topic there, not in this thread.Perhaps you would like this thread also, @Sceptic: https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..ead-clues/
Thanks, will do when I’ve answered the responses.
Please don’t. This isn’t the place for stupid conspiracy theories. Just drop it. Any Paul Is Dead messages outside of the threads that @Ahhh Girl directed you towards are likely to be deleted.
I see my post was deleted. I am not a conpiracy theorist. I am a forensic examiner. Trying to show the obvious changes that occurred in the space of a few months.
I know a little about forensics, can you repost your info here so I and the others can take a look?
The following people thank Starr Shine? for this post:
Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^<If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.
10.55am
Reviewers
17 December 2012
The thing is, @Sceptic, let’s say your theory is true for the hell of it, and to explore it further, so Faul has no interest in putting up a headstone on Paul’s mother’s grave because he’s not Paul.
I don’t believe in Faul, think it’s total rubbish, but you seem to, and I can see a certain logic to your explanation over the lack of headstone should you believe in Faul…
except…
surely Faul would have every reason to erect a headstone as it would stop those who believed Paul to be dead and replaced making the lack of gravestone on Paul’s mother’s grave further proof that Paul was dead…
but more importantly, and this is the killer, it offers no explanation as to why Jim didn’t have a headstone put in place before his death in 1976, or why Mike still hasn’t.
You have an explanation for why Paul didn’t, because he was killed and replaced with Faul, and Faul doesn’t care about Paul’s mother.
Now, where’s your explanation for Jim and Mike not doing so? You’ve given your reasoning as to why one of the three primaries involved hasn’t erected a headstone, but no explanation for the other two not doing so. It is not as if, were either Jim or Mike to have put up a headstone for their beloved Mary, it would have revealed Paul was Faul.
Unless you have an explanation for that, your argument falls down.
Faul being Paul, and Jim and Mike agreeing to go along with it, doesn’t create a situation that prevents either of them from putting up a headstone.
The following people thank Ron Nasty for this post:
The Hippie Chick, Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^<"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty
To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
11.11am
Moderators
Members
Reviewers
20 August 2013
Carrying over Sceptic’s post from another thread.
Sceptic said
JPM-Fangirl said
I’m not going to go into an in-depth argument about this, because you know very well Paul didn’t die. His nose didn’t change, nor did the length of his face or his height. But, I will share one of my favourite photos of Paul with you. It’s from (late) 1964 or somewhere in 1965 and it shows his hazel eyes very well. Pay particular attention to the outer rim of the irises, which in this picture is…. green. Because that’s what hazel eyes do: they can look brown, green, or both. And Paul himself has said his eyes are hazel, not brown.
I don’t know what happened to this photo. JPM had dark chocolate brown eyes. Compare with 99% of other colour photos of the time.
Can buy Joe love! Amazon | iTunes
Check here for "how do I do this" guide to the forum. (2017) (2018)
11.15am
20 April 2016
Starr Shine? said
JPM-Fangirl said
Plus, when you look at pictures of Paul in his more recent years, and compare them to his pre-Beatles photos, it’s plain to see it’s the same bloke. As he ages, he looks more and more like his did in his late teens.Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. He’s probably the only man who ages younger.
Hi there, found the thread. My position is JPM died in late 1966, and was replaced by a lookalike that underwent plastic surgeries to enhance the likeness. Many surgeries in 1967, and many more over the years. Personally, I can’t understand how the differences wern’t noticed.
11.18am
27 April 2015
11.18am
20 April 2016
Ron Nasty said
The thing is, @Sceptic, let’s say your theory is true for the hell of it, and to explore it further, so Faul has no interest in putting up a headstone on Paul’s mother’s grave because he’s not Paul.I don’t believe in Faul, think it’s total rubbish, but you seem to, and I can see a certain logic to your explanation over the lack of headstone should you believe in Faul…
except…
surely Faul would have every reason to erect a headstone as it would stop those who believed Paul to be dead and replaced making the lack of gravestone on Paul’s mother’s grave further proof that Paul was dead…
but more importantly, and this is the killer, it offers no explanation as to why Jim didn’t have a headstone put in place before his death in 1976, or why Mike still hasn’t.
You have an explanation for why Paul didn’t, because he was killed and replaced with Faul, and Faul doesn’t care about Paul’s mother.
Now, where’s your explanation for Jim and Mike not doing so? You’ve given your reasoning as to why one of the three primaries involved hasn’t erected a headstone, but no explanation for the other two not doing so. It is not as if, were either Jim or Mike to have put up a headstone for their beloved Mary, it would have revealed Paul was Faul.
Unless you have an explanation for that, your argument falls down.
Faul being Paul, and Jim and Mike agreeing to go along with it, doesn’t create a situation that prevents either of them from putting up a headstone.
I have no explanation, perhaps the idea of privacy is correct. It just shocked me. It could be for any reason, known only to the family.
11.19am
1 November 2013
Ya, I have blue eyes but some people thought they looked green, it depends on lighting and clothing.
If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.
11.25am
27 April 2015
I’ve read that John was very aversive to contacts as they weren’t as comfy as they are these days. So, I’m sure that Paul didn’t go down that route either. I guess it’s in the 90s that they became easier to use.
EDIT: Besides, if we go by your assumption of tinted contact lenses (which I’m not really sure existed then), why would he wear it for one occasion and not for the other if he wanted to keep his “real” identity under wraps?
For tomorrow may rain, so I'll follow the Sun
5 Guest(s)