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^ Interesting! Not sure how much I would trust what Francie says… but still interesting.
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I like to think that Linda and Paul spent all their time together because they genuinely enjoyed each other that much. They seemed so great together. Jane seemed like a nice girl and all, but she seemed kinda dull too (no offence to anyone that is a fan, I have been chastised on this forum before for making stabs at Jane… but it’s just my opinion). Linda and Paul were on the same level. They toked together, they were in a band together, they became vegetarians, they had their family.Absolutely! They were obviously in love and great friends. And I agree Linda was a better match for him — she balanced him out, helped him relax, told him “it’s allowed,” encouraged him to get in touch with nature and live simply and be a dirty hippy minstrel, which seems to have been really good for him. Whereas I think Jane probably reinforced his compulsive/overachiever/perfectionist anxiety-loop side.
I certainly agree with you two about Linda, but I don’t feel like I’ve ever known enough about Jane to have any kind of opinion of her or her relationship with Paul. I do have an affection for the bit in Many Years from Now of Paul’s life with the Ashers though. I find it extraordinary that one of the world’s most famous rockstars essentially lived in an attic with this eccentric family. Besides providing intellectual stimulation for Paul, it seems Jane and her folks provided a much-needed stability.
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17 January 2013
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acmac said
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I like to think that Linda and Paul spent all their time together because they genuinely enjoyed each other that much. They seemed so great together. Jane seemed like a nice girl and all, but she seemed kinda dull too (no offence to anyone that is a fan, I have been chastised on this forum before for making stabs at Jane… but it’s just my opinion). Linda and Paul were on the same level. They toked together, they were in a band together, they became vegetarians, they had their family.Absolutely! They were obviously in love and great friends. And I agree Linda was a better match for him — she balanced him out, helped him relax, told him “it’s allowed,” encouraged him to get in touch with nature and live simply and be a dirty hippy minstrel, which seems to have been really good for him. Whereas I think Jane probably reinforced his compulsive/overachiever/perfectionist anxiety-loop side.
I certainly agree with you two about Linda, but I don’t feel like I’ve ever known enough about Jane to have any kind of opinion of her or her relationship with Paul. I do have an affection for the bit in Many Years from Now of Paul’s life with her family though. I find it extraordinary that one of the world’s most famous rockstars essentially lived in an attic with this eccentric family. Besides providing intellectual stimulation for Paul, it seems Jane and her family provided a much-needed stability.
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True enough. For me, it’s the constant cheating that taints their relationship. I’ve always been very faithful and very solid in the belief that if you are truly happy with someone, you don’t cheat on them. I’m sure he cared about Jane, but he didn’t act like he did by cheating on her so much.
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8 November 2012
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I’m sure he cared about Jane, but he didn’t act like he did by cheating on her so much.
I agree.
And your post at the Beatles news thread just reminded me I should x-post this:
* Guardian article/interview with Paul. A few items of note are the intro:
Sir Paul McCartney continues to be worshipped abroad, while we too often treat him as an embarrassing uncle. Now an exciting new album has brought him back home. He invites Miranda Sawyer round to his studio for a chat about the Liverpool that shaped him – and how he fell in love with Nancy
And the story of how he met Nancy:
They met in a surf shop in Long Island: McCartney was on holiday, cycling around, looking for sun cream. The reason they both had tears in their eyes was that Nancy had known Linda, Paul’s first wife.
“Out Of The Blue , I met this girl and we started talking and she happened to say, ‘I knew Linda.’ So that was emotional. I wouldn’t meet, typically, many people who knew Linda, and who knew her during her cancer treatment – and Nancy did. She’s a cancer survivor herself. So it got very deep, very quickly, and it was like, ‘What the hell was that?’ And then I ran into her a couple of more times on the holiday, and we got to know each other and started dating. So the song is about that, about this depth of emotion, of feeling – but totally being scared to say or do anything about it. Like a tongue-tied teenager.”
And a bit about his relatives:
He tells me a sad story about his uncle Harry, who, with his brother, had to go to the Bluecoat School, a live-in school for orphans, because his mum could only afford to keep her daughter. “So Harry and his brother never saw their mother except on a Sunday, where she came to the church service, and they weren’t officially allowed to turn around and look at her. Though they did.” Harry learnt Shakespeare at Bluecoats, and used to recite it to Paul.
“I get quite emotional about that, because I have met Thatchers and Blairs and Obamas and Clintons… and each of them has got some kind of greatness. But to me, I respect these old Liverpool people. My dad, my uncle Harry, who loved Shakespeare. Bert, my cousin, became a crossword compiler because my dad taught him to love crosswords.”
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I agree with Mja6758 that Paul is hedging here. He may not know about the quote where John specifically attributes those lines to his abusive tendencies, but there are too many examples of John getting violent with women (and men) for Paul not to have been aware of it. But that’s not something he’s ever going to want to discuss; he’s always emphasizing the nicer side of John in interviews. And yeah, I doubt he’d welcome any prying into how he himself may have been “cruel to his women” (especially now, after the huge mess with Mills). He’s admitted his ’60s attitude was “typical male chauvinism” regarding sex, not wanting Jane to work, etc., but I doubt he’d want to go into detail about it. Which is a shame.
Did Paul ever see his dad hit his mom? Was that a common occurrence I wonder?
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I’m harkening back to a post in the “Questions you’d ask Paul” thread. I am going to assume the role of Paul’s psychological counselor because sometimes people need to be challenged.
—BEGINNING OF COUNSELING SESSION—
Paul, you talk about Linda being so good for you because she kept telling you, “It’s allowed.” Shoot, you had been telling yourself that for years. Seeing John when your dad didn’t want you to. Nailing a condom to a wall and setting it on fire. The sheer number of women you had sex with (including cheating on Jane because you said that it was o.k because you two weren’t married). Taking LSD. Calling a woman and entire group because of her weight. Pushing the sound engineers to new heights because of the sound you were looking for. Pushing the other Beatles into trying to remain a viable group your way (did you do that because you were afraid of losing John?). I could go on, but do you catch my drift?
Perhaps you really needed someone to tell you to grow up. If someone had, they might have saved you from that disaster in Japan that left your band mates and fans so angry at you.
Are you giving out revisionist history because “It’s allowed”?
Enlighten me.
—-END OF COUNSELING SESSION—
I’m glad I’m not his counselor because I would rather just snuggle up with him on a couch with some cups of hot chocolate and a can of silly string and let one thing lead to another.
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Offline I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.
Motives, dear, think about Ahhh Girl’s ulterior motives.
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.Motives, dear, think about Ahhh Girl’s ulterior motives.
What about the code of practice that all counselor’s have to agree to undertake and live by? There would be a scandal.
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.Motives, dear, think about Ahhh Girl’s ulterior motives.
Aha, so, break him down… but then build him back up, wink wink nudge nudge, eh? 
Seriously though, I do think Linda’s “it’s allowed” was something that was good for him to hear. The context was the early days of their dating, so Paul wanted to impress but was going through rough times with the Beatles and kept apologizing to her for being “tired,” until she finally told him it was allowed. It goes along with her “don’t worry about the map, let’s just get lost!” philosophy that he also expressed such appreciation for. IMO it was good for him to be with someone more free-spirited, who could tame his goal-directed, anxious, workaholic tendencies. Nothing against Jane, I just think she was quite similar to Paul that way — ambitious, appearance-conscious, etc., and that he benefited from chilling out more. Pot busts aside, he did “grow up” under Linda’s influence: quit doing harder drugs (if you don’t count the pot), became monogamous, a good dad, relatively stable, etc.
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.
He would probably need more counsling just from that counsling session.
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Ahhh Girl said
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.Motives, dear, think about Ahhh Girl’s ulterior motives.
What about the code of practice that all counselor’s have to agree to undertake and live by? There would be a scandal.
No, not that motive. To heck with the answers to the questions.
My other motive that would come with soothing him after such a brutal session….
I *think* acmac caught my drift. “Aha, so, break him down… but then build him back up, wink wink nudge nudge, eh?” Lots of nudging.
Edit: nooooo….It isn’t more counseling that he would need. It’s something much more pleasant.
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tame his goal-directed, anxious, workaholic tendencies.
Are they tamed now? Were they ever really tamed? I’m not shooting bullets here. I’m really curious to know from the more well-read than I and those who have been following his career for longer than 4 months.
When she said that to him, was slowing down something he had been desperately wanting to do? Did he realize that he wanted to chill out and Linda brought that out in him OR did she create that need/feeling in him for being more free-spirited.
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.He would probably need more counsling just from that counsling session.
Is there a great plan worked out between folks on here whereby Paul gets counselling from one who then is suspended so the next can get up close and personal and then be suspended for the next? Some kind of queue formed outside ready for the next person to take over and be a shoulder to cry on . Kudos if there is.
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.He would probably need more counsling just from that counsling session.
Is there a great plan worked out between folks on here whereby Paul gets counselling from one who then is suspended so the next can get up close and personal and then be suspended for the next? Some kind of queue formed outside ready for the next person to take over and be a shoulder to cry on . Kudos if there is.
If information is what I have to settle for, put me in the queue. MMM you’re first. I think you could cover most of our questions with him.
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Offline Why didn’t someone get Paul to fasten that button on his vest for the Stern interview?
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Offline Ahhh Girl said
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I wouldn’t like to be counselled by you Ahh Girl, that was brutal. Paul would need a hug and mug of hot cocoa after that.He would probably need more counsling just from that counsling session.
Is there a great plan worked out between folks on here whereby Paul gets counselling from one who then is suspended so the next can get up close and personal and then be suspended for the next? Some kind of queue formed outside ready for the next person to take over and be a shoulder to cry on . Kudos if there is.
If information is what I have to settle for, put me in the queue. MMM you’re first. I think you could cover most of our questions with him.
Don’t send me in. Within 4 minutes i’d have complained about the slowness of the Archive releases and the 76 variations of New released around the world, pressed him to sanction the Let It Be movie, demanded to know how sang those bleedin’ ahhhhs, and stupidly offered him a bacon roll with brown sauce and cup of tea.
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Offline ^O. K. MMM. We’ll put you in the back of the line to pinch hit if needed.
I think I could give it a go for an hour. I’d start with some soft tosses then start applying more pressure. I could pace myself for that long.
I have a career to fall back on. Send me in, coach.
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Offline You’d have to think of an impressive first question, one which hasn’t been asked before and not only puts him at ease but makes him think. What will be your opener?
We’ll all be rooting for you outside with our empty glasses pressed to the door. Scrap that. We’ll hook up a tv camera so we all could watch in a nearby room with our feet up.
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Can I just say, so far as I understand, this thread is about “Paul interviews”. You seem to be getting caught up in something very different. Now, you all know what I’m going to say…
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