2.16pm
3 November 2015
In this recording of “Revolution ,” John says, “But when you talk about destruction/don’t you know that you can count me out–in.” What could this mean? It doesn’t seem like he would disagree with something they all had such strong opinions on and had written about.
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15 February 2015
@KaleidoscopeMusic I don’t think he was disagreeing so much as being indecisive. Why, I couldn’t tell you. John did seem to have very widely varying opinions at times.
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7.18am
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1 May 2011
Johns stance was dependent on the reason(s) for ‘Revolution ‘ and change and how it was carried out so there was uncertainty in John hence the “Out In”.
Count me out if it’s for violence. Don’t expect me on the barricades unless it’s with flowers.
(source: The Beatles Bible)
John talking about the three versions of ‘Revolution ‘ in the 1970 Rolling Stone interview.
When George and Paul and all of them were on holiday, I made “Revolution ” which is on the LP and “Revolution #9.” I wanted to put it out as a single, I had it all prepared, but they came by, and said it wasn’t good enough. And we put out what? “Hello Goodbye ” or some s**t like that? No, we put out “Hey Jude ,” which was worth it – I’m sorry – but we could have had both.
I wanted to put what I felt about Revolution ; I thought it was time we fuckin’ spoke about it, the same as I thought it was about time we stopped not answering about the Vietnamese War when we were on tour with Brian Epstein and had to tell him, “We’re going to talk about the war this time and we’re not going to just waffle.” I wanted to say what I thought about Revolution .
I had been thinking about it up in the hills in India. I still had this “God will save us” feeling about it, that it’s going to be all right (even now I’m saying “Hold on, John, it’s going to be all right,” otherwise, I won’t hold on) but that’s why I did it, I wanted to talk, I wanted to say my piece about Revolution . I wanted to tell you, or whoever listens, to communicate, to say “What do you say? This is what I say.”
On one version I said “Count me in” about violence, in or out, because I wasn’t sure. But the version we put out said “Count me out,” because I don’t fancy a violent Revolution happening all over. I don’t want to die; but I begin to think what else can happen, you know, it seems inevitable.
“Revolution #9″ was an unconscious picture of what I actually think will happen when it happens; that was just like a drawing of Revolution . All the thing was made with loops, I had about thirty loops going, fed them onto one basic track. I was getting classical tapes, going upstairs and chopping them up, making it backwards and things like that, to get the sound effects. One thing was an engineer’s testing tape and it would come on with a voice saying “This is EMI Test Series #9.” I just cut up whatever he said and I’d number nine it. Nine turned out to be my birthday and my lucky number and everything. I didn’t realize it; it was just so funny the voice saying “Number nine”; it was like a joke, bringing number nine into it all the time, that’s all it was.
Yoko: It also turns out to be the highest number you know, one, two, etc., up to nine.
John: There are many symbolic things about it but it just happened you know, just an engineer’s tape and I was just using all the bits to make a montage. I really wanted that released.
So that’s my feeling. The idea was don’t aggravate the pig by waving the thing that aggravates – by waving the Red flag in his face. You know, I really thought that love would save us all. But now I’m wearing a Chairman Mao badge.
I’m just beginning to think he’s doing a good job. I would never know until I went to China. I’m not going to be like that, I was just always interested enough to sing about him. I just wondered what the kids who were actually Maoists were doing. I wondered what their motive was and what was really going on. I thought if they wanted Revolution , if they really want to be subtle, what’s the point of saying “I’m a Maoist and why don’t you shoot me down?” I thought that wasn’t a very clever way of getting what they wanted.
You don’t really believe that we are headed for a violent Revolution ?
I don’t know; I’ve got no more conception than you. I can’t see . . . eventually it’ll happen, like it will happen – it has to happen; what else can happen? It might happen now, or it might happen in a hundred years, but. . . .Having a violent Revolution now might just be the end of the world.
Not necessarily. They say that every time, but I don’t really believe it, you see. If it is, OK, I’m back to where I was when I was 17 and at 17 I used to wish a fuckin’ earthquake or Revolution would happen so that I could go out and steal and do what the blacks are doing now. If I was black, I’d be all for it; if I were 17 I’d be all for it, too. What have you got to lose? Now I’ve got something to lose. I don’t want to die, and I don’t want to be hurt physically, but if they blow the world up, f**k it, we’re all out of our pain then, forget it, no more problems!You sing, “Hold on world. . . .”
I sing “Hold on John,” too, because I don’t want to die. I don’t want to be hurt, and “please don’t hit me.”You think by holding on it will be all right?
It’s only going to be all right – it’s now, this moment. That’s all right this moment, and hold on now; we might have a cup of tea or we might get a moment’s happiness any minute now, so that’s what it’s all about, just moment by moment; that’s how we’re living, cherishing each day and dreading it, too. It might be your last day – you might get run over by a car – and I’m really beginning to cherish it. I cherish life.
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3.46am
24 March 2014
i was reading this interview where he says this: “…I dig the people that notice that I have a sort of strange rhythm scene, because I’ve never been able to keep rhythm on the stage. I always used to get lost….” and i wondered why would he say something like that, watching his playing (rooftop, hollywood bowl, ed shullivan’s…) you can see he keeps the rhythm pretty well…
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7.00am
1 November 2013
Maybe it was during the times when they couldn’t hear themselves play and since the interview is during the White Album , maybe that would be freshest in his mind.
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3.59pm
12 November 2015
So, I want to know which of John’s Beatles songs do you guys think fits in the best with his solo stuff. Or rather, which Beatles songs written by John could have been released as solo material and nobody would have known the difference. His Beatles songs have a tendency to be kinda gobbledygook, like Dig A Pony , Glass Onion , or I Am The Walrus . While his solo stuff was usually more about political or personal stuff. I think a few songs that would fit in well on his first couple of solo albums would have been Come Together , Julia , Because , Revolution , Yer Blues , and maybe Across The Universe .
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14 April 2010
limitlessundyinglove said
So, I want to know which of John’s Beatles songs do you guys think fits in the best with his solo stuff. Or rather, which Beatles songs written by John could have been released as solo material and nobody would have known the difference. His Beatles songs have a tendency to be kinda gobbledygook, like Dig A Pony , Glass Onion , or I Am The Walrus . While his solo stuff was usually more about political or personal stuff. I think a few songs that would fit in well on his first couple of solo albums would have been Come Together , Julia , Because , Revolution , Yer Blues , and maybe Across The Universe .
I think you answered your own question. Hard to argue with any of your choices.
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4.16pm
18 April 2013
I think the most “solo John” song out of your list is Yer Blues . It would fit nicely in a playlist next to Cold Turkey and maybe New York City.
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4.19pm
12 November 2015
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Yeah. Julia would work too, since it’s the only Beatles song that John performed solo. Plus, I can barely tell the difference between Julia and Look At Me .
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4.22pm
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14 April 2010
Expert Textpert said
I think the most “solo John” song out of your list is Yer Blues . It would fit nicely in a playlist next to Cold Turkey and maybe New York City.
Love that song – it’s in my top 10.
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4.25pm
18 April 2013
You guys are making me want to hear some John Lennon now. (I’m currently listening to Elvis).
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4.31pm
12 November 2015
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I’m kind of on a John Lennon tangent right now. I can’t stop listening to his solo stuff. My favorites are Jealous Guy , Love, (Just Like) Starting Over, God , and Imagine (of course)
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4.36pm
18 April 2013
limitlessundyinglove said
I’m kind of on a John Lennon tangent right now. I can’t stop listening to his solo stuff. My favorites are Jealous Guy , Love, (Just Like) Starting Over, God , and Imagine (of course)
I like the “Stripped Down” version of Starting Over with the dedication to Elvis (and others) at the beginning. Jealous Guy is great too, but I don’t know whether I like this version or the original (Child Of Nature ) better. Love is just about as perfect a song as you can get. So is Imagine . It’s like he was tapping into the music of the cosmos there. I also feel that way about Across The Universe , which is one of John’s best songs (and probably his best lyrics).
I go on John tangents quite often. Have you heard his excellent guitar work on the Yoko Ono song, Walking on Thin Ice? I like to think this song was a hint of what would have been coming next if John had lived.
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4.40pm
12 November 2015
Expert Textpert said
limitlessundyinglove said
I’m kind of on a John Lennon tangent right now. I can’t stop listening to his solo stuff. My favorites are Jealous Guy , Love, (Just Like) Starting Over, God , and Imagine (of course)
I like the “Stripped Down” version of Starting Over with the dedication to Elvis (and others) at the beginning. Jealous Guy is great too, but I don’t know whether I like this version or the original (Child Of Nature ) better. Love is just about as perfect a song as you can get. So is Imagine . It’s like he was tapping into the music of the cosmos there. I also feel that way about Across The Universe , which is one of John’s best songs (and probably his best lyrics).
I go on John tangents quite often. Have you heard his excellent guitar work on the Yoko Ono song, Walking on Thin Ice? I like to think this song was a hint of what would have been coming next if John had lived.
No I haven’t. I’ll Youtube it though.
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18 April 2013
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12 November 2015
4.52pm
18 April 2013
I’m not a fan of the way John treated Julian either. I don’t condone Yoko’s behavior, but I think that her attitude toward Julian was that if she didn’t get to spend time with Kyoko (who was being hid from Yoko by her ex) then John didn’t get Julian.
I have a sneaking suspicion, though, that Julian spent more time with John and Yoko than he lets on. There are lots of photographs of the three.
…but yes, I disagree with making Julian buy things at auction that belonged to his father, etc.
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4.59pm
12 November 2015
Expert Textpert said
I’m not a fan of the way John treated Julian either. I don’t condone Yoko’s behavior, but I think that her attitude toward Julian was that if she didn’t get to spend time with Kyoko (who was being hid from Yoko by her ex) then John didn’t get Julian.I have a sneaking suspicion, though, that Julian spent more time with John and Yoko than he lets on. There are lots of photographs of the three.
…but yes, I disagree with making Julian buy things at auction that belonged to his father, etc.
I have no problem with people getting divorced, but just because you’re divorced doesn’t mean you should neglect your children from a previous marriage. Though sometimes, I wonder what would’ve happened if Yoko hadn’t had that miscarriage.
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11 June 2015
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^^ Yep – that was a happy time while visiting Scotland…mere days before John drove their car off the road.
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