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22 December 2013
WeepingAtlasCedars said
I can’t believe no-one’s yet mentioned Mother . There’s damn good emotion in that one.
as with much of John’s works… there are highly personal chords which are struck, from seemingly out of nowhere that make for a somewhat uncomfortable listen… it’s the same reaction which prevents most from staring at the ‘Two Virgins ‘ album cover for too long… John stripped down for all the world to see on the ‘Plastic Ono Band’, or ‘Sgt. Lennon’ album… John’s subconscious in the raw… ‘God ‘ picks up where ‘Mother ‘ leaves off…:-)
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Plastic Ono is my favorite Lennon album. I prefer it to Imagine these days. Every single track has something to offer. I love how he offers pearls of wisdom through his pain, and there’s still humour and hope amongst it all. Cookie!
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@Pineapple Records said
It’s interesting how Paul’s screaming is technically better, but lacks the vulnerable emotion John brings to it.
I feel like Paul’s screaming isn’t even comparable, it’s on a totally different spectrum of screaming than John’s — John’s are screams of pain/vulnerability/more-negative emotions, while Paul’s are screams of joy/rock ecstasy/positive emotions. The lyrical matter isn’t important; Paul howls because he loves it and John howls because he’s trying to express his pain.
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17 December 2012
Paul’s are a vocal lick he learnt from performers he loved, like Richard Penniman, whose howls were always howls of delight; while John inhabits the emotion in a way Paul can’t.
I remember the Record Collector review of Live At The BBC when it came out. Comparing John and Paul as vocalists, they compared Paul’s That’s All Right (Mama) and John’s Soldier of Love (Lay Down Your Arms). That’s All Right they commented was a performance, while with Soldier of Love they judged that John owned the vocal, made it unique. We can still hear that all these years later, Paul riffing on his influences, while John sought not an echo but himself.
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15 May 2015
Beatlebug said
I feel like Paul’s screaming isn’t even comparable, it’s on a totally different spectrum of screaming than John’s — John’s are screams of pain/vulnerability/more-negative emotions, while Paul’s are screams of joy/rock ecstasy/positive emotions. The lyrical matter isn’t important; Paul howls because he loves it and John howls because he’s trying to express his pain.
Yeah, that’s a good way to put the difference. It raises the question, does Paul have any existential pain? If he does, apparently he doesn’t feel it should be expressed in his music.
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22 December 2013
Timothy said
Plastic Ono is my favorite Lennon album. I prefer it to Imagine these days. Every single track has something to offer. I love how he offers pearls of wisdom through his pain, and there’s still humour and hope amongst it all. Cookie!
John burst outta the “post-Beatles” gate with not only quite possibly THE Best album of the lot, but a single in ‘Cold Turkey ‘ (a harbinger of the ‘Plastic Ono Band’ album) that was never really topped, in my opinion, with anything that the others put out … but he never could’ve accomplished this without Ringo’s playing throughout… very much the same way George’s ‘All Things Must Pass ‘ album wouldn’t have been the success that it was… Ringo not only sparked their initial explosion unto the unexpected masses back in ’63, but matched John’s creative output here during this period toe to toe… yet more evidence that all four of them were what they were, because of Ringo… and how about Yoko Ono’s own ‘Plastic Ono Band’ album?! It always comes back to Rings…:-)
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@Pineapple Records I’m sure Paul has had bad days like everyone else, but I think for him, music is more of a way to escape/heal negativity than a direct outlet for negative emotions. (He also tends to write sad ballads [e.g. ‘Dear Friend’, ‘Here Today ‘] rather than sad screamers — his screamers are, as we’ve said, happy one’s.)
Back on topic, Sexy Sadie . That falsetto hooooooooo that he does — I used to have to hear that bit over and over as a kid, it made me so high.
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I’ll chuck in Anna (Go To Him) into this thread, I think. John has so much emotion in this one, and when he reaches the bits where he’s almost screaming, that almost sounds like the best vocal timbre he ever achieved in my opinion. (The bit 0:59 – 1:06 really shows what I mean.)
I’m So Tired also has the same idea. John puts in a lot of emotion (or non-emotion in this case, which fits better if you know what I mean). The screaming sections have that je ne sais quoi that John could achieve.
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14 June 2016
Yeah, good choices. I love the songs where John put aggression and meaning into his vocals. You’re Going To Lose That Girl being another good example I think.
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22 December 2013
‘Revolution (Take 18)’…:-)
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14 June 2016
Wigwam said
Always had a soft spot for ‘Tell me Why’…….But I can’t tell you why?
From AHDN , I enjoy You Can’t Do That in terms of vocal performance but also in concept. John at his jealous, angry best. “I can’t help my feelings I go out of my mind, I’m gonna let you down and leave you flat.” Love it!
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Personally, i just love to hear John scream his lungs out. Twist And Shout , Yer Blues , She’s So Heavy… John was a white guy from England, but he had the blues in him that few could ever rival.
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Timothy said
From AHDN , I enjoy You Can’t Do That in terms of vocal performance but also in concept. John at his jealous, angry best. “I can’t help my feelings I go out of my mind, I’m gonna let you down and leave you flat.” Love it!
Yes, agree it was almost a toss up between the two.
I really love AHDN and listen to it often……Never bored. The album in total is one of John’s high points. But they were all so good.
The harmony between John and Paul on ‘If I Fell ‘ is two voices at a time that seem to me to make a mysterious third voice. Wonderful.
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QuarryMan said
Personally, i just love to hear John scream his lungs out. Twist And Shout , Yer Blues , She’s So Heavy… John was a white guy from England, but he had the blues in him that few could ever rival.
Until Beverly Knight belted it out, (see below) I thought no one could come close to young Mr Lennon’s shitless cough lozenged rendition.
Remember John had had a long day……Yet still he sang like no other British singer in history ever had before……
Soft or screaming John was a one off…….Paul was no slouch either! What lucky stars put them together??
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21 December 2017
Just to give my two cents, You’re Going To Lose That Girl has always been a personal favorite of mine in terms of John’s vocals.
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Carter Lennon said
Just to give my two cents, You’re Going To Lose That Girl has always been a personal favorite of mine in terms of John’s vocals.
Absolutely agree. One of his best ever.
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Carter Lennon said
Just to give my two cents, You’re Going To Lose That Girl has always been a personal favorite of mine in terms of John’s vocals.
Absolutely. One of the best songs on Help !
John has a lot of great vocals (Twist And Shout , Money, and I Should Have Known Better come to mind) but one of my favorite John moments is that first “Misterrrrr mooooonliiiiight” at the beginning of Mr. Moonlight.
Also, is it just me, or would John have sung “Why Don’t We Do It In The Road” and “Oh Darling” better than Paul? (though Paul did sing them well)
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Maybe not his best but i am currently listening to Keep your hands off my baby and it’s great, ya know…tipically Lennon…A little screaming, but a little melodic and with a lot of feeling…i like it very much
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