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Funny, I think Yoko’s songs tend to better than John’s on the last two albums, with several exceptions.
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Funny, I think Yoko’s songs tend to better than John’s on the last two albums, with several exceptions.
I think her songs on New York City are much better than his last two albums. However, giving Double Fantasy another look, her songs aren’t too terrible with the exception of Kiss Kiss Kiss. I do really like Hard Times Are Over. That might be my favorite Yoko song. However, I don’t like any of her stuff on Milk And Honey . It’s not very good, especially compared to some of the exceptional John songs on there. I always imagined the quality of her stuff was worse on M&H than the other two because John wasn’t there to supervise.
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Funny, I think Yoko’s songs tend to better than John’s on the last two albums, with several exceptions.
I think her songs on New York City are much better than his last two albums. However, giving Double Fantasy another look, her songs aren’t too terrible with the exception of Kiss Kiss Kiss. I do really like Hard Times Are Over. That might be my favorite Yoko song. However, I don’t like any of her stuff on Milk And Honey . It’s not very good, especially compared to some of the exceptional John songs on there. I always imagined the quality of her stuff was worse on M&H than the other two because John wasn’t there to supervise.
She’s done great work on her own over the years. She’s written some masterpieces without John around.
I like the more “new wave” sound of Yoko’s songs on their last two albums together. But I haven’t listened in a while. Some of her songs are misses, most are hits, IMO.
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Funny, I think Yoko’s songs tend to better than John’s on the last two albums, with several exceptions.
I think her songs on New York City are much better than his last two albums. However, giving Double Fantasy another look, her songs aren’t too terrible with the exception of Kiss Kiss Kiss. I do really like Hard Times Are Over. That might be my favorite Yoko song. However, I don’t like any of her stuff on Milk And Honey . It’s not very good, especially compared to some of the exceptional John songs on there. I always imagined the quality of her stuff was worse on M&H than the other two because John wasn’t there to supervise.
She’s done great work on her own over the years. She’s written some masterpieces without John around.
I like the more “new wave” sound of Yoko’s songs on their last two albums together. But I haven’t listened in a while. Some of her songs are misses, most are hits, IMO.
I’ll admit I’m actually not familiar with Yoko’s work beyond the 3 John albums, and the 3 unfinished music albums. She is on my list of discographies to binge, but I just haven’t got around to it.
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I started listening to Intuition this afternoon (one of my absolute favourites) and then ended up listening to the whole album. Mind Games is a solid opener. Out The Blue and You Are Here speak for themselves, as far as I am concerned.
Only People is a continuation of his Power To The People message. It’s often overlooked but nonetheless catchy and still a good song. Freeda People, with a political message, is similar, and builds into a satisfying release. I would’ve used the Anthology version of One Day At A Time, which I think is vastly superior and one of John’s best vocals. But apart from that, it’s all pretty great.
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Mind Games is my favourite of John’s solo albums. It’s certainly the most light-hearted, coming after his two serious statements in Plastic Ono Band and Imagine , and before the “lost weekend” chronicle which is Walls And Bridges .
it’s definitely the one I tend to be in the mood for the most
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Mind Games : The Ultimate Collection will be released in June next year!https://www.johnlennon.com/new…..june-2024/
Sean will do his dad proud, I’m sure.
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Mind Games : The Ultimate Collection will be released in June next year!https://www.johnlennon.com/new…..june-2024/
Excellent – can’t wait to see what they have on the tracklist.
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Mind Games : The Ultimate Collection will be released in June next year!
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Excellent – can’t wait to see what they have on the tracklist.
Presumably it will follow the format of the previous albums and have demos, raw mixes, elements, evolutions, ultimate mixes and other outtakes and then the Blu_Rays with 5.1, Atmos etc. Maybe they will put the Yoko album which was recorded around the same time on one of the Blu_Rays (‘Feeling The Space’) – tho looking at it’s Wiki entry John is hardly on that album so they won’t.
The ‘Mind Games ‘ tracks are far better in their underpolished guises, same goes for ‘WAB’, so should be a very enjoyable release.
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Offline I’m not going to copy and paste the entire article (Joe has it here) but the details of the upcoming expanded ‘Mind Games ‘ was issued last week and unsurprisingly follows the same format as the ‘POB’ and ‘Imagine ‘ sets (each disc grouped as Raw, Outtakes, Evolution etc). The tracklisting is (I can’t be bothered fighting with the paste formatting):
CD1: ULTIMATE MIXES
- ‘Mind Games’
- ‘Tight A$’
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’
- ‘Intuition’
- ‘Out The Blue’
- ‘Only People’
- ‘I Know (I Know)’
- ‘You Are Here’
- ‘Meat City’
CD 2: ELEMENTAL MIXES
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Intuition’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Only People’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Meat City’ (Elemental Mix)
CD 3: ELEMENTS MIXES
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Intuition’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Only People’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Meat City’ (Elements Mix)
CD 4: EVOLUTION DOCUMENTARY
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Intuition’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Only People’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Meat City’ (Evolution Documentary)
CD 5: THE RAW STUDIO MIXES
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Intuition’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Only People’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Meat City’ (Raw Studio Mix)
CD 6: THE OUTTAKES
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Out-take, Take 7)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Out-take, Take 6)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Out-take, Take 2)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Out-take, Take 18)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Out-take, Take 15)
- ‘Declaration Of Nutopia’ (Out-take, Take 1)
- ‘Intuition’ (Out-take, Take 12)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Out-take, Take 15)
- ‘Only People’ (Out-take, Take 12)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Out-take, Take 22)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Out-take, Take 5)
- ‘Meat City’ (Out-take, Take 16)
BLU-RAY 1
All audio in hi-res 24/192 Stereo, 24/192 5.1 Surround, and 24/48 Dolby Atmos
The Ultimate Mixes
- ‘Mind Games ’
- ‘Tight A$’
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’
- ‘Intuition’
- ‘Out The Blue’
- ‘Only People’
- ‘I Know (I Know)’
- ‘You Are Here’
- ‘Meat City’
Elemental Mixes
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Intuition’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Only People’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Elemental Mix)
- ‘Meat City’ (Elemental Mix)
Elements Mixes
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Intuition’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Only People’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Elements Mix)
- ‘Meat City’ (Elements Mix)
BLU-RAY 2
All audio in hi-res 24/192 Stereo, 24/192 5.1 Surround, and 24/48 Dolby Atmos
- Evolution Documentary
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Intuition’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Only People’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Evolution Documentary)
- ‘Meat City’ (Evolution Documentary)
The Raw Studio Mixes
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Nutopian International Anthem’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Intuition’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Only People’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Raw Studio Mix)
- ‘Meat City’ (Raw Studio Mix)
The Outtakes
- ‘Mind Games ’ (Out-take, Take 7)
- ‘Tight A$’ (Out-take, Take 6)
- ‘Aisumasen (I’m Sorry)’ (Out-take, Take 2)
- ‘One Day (At A Time)’ (Out-take, Take 18)
- ‘Bring On The Lucie (Freeda Peeple)’ (Out-take, Take 15)
- ‘Declaration Of Nutopia’ (Out-take, Take 9)
- ‘Intuition’ (Out-take, Take 12)
- ‘Out The Blue’ (Out-take, Take 15)
- ‘Only People’ (Out-take, Take 12)
- ‘I Know (I Know)’ (Out-take, Take 22)
- ‘You Are Here’ (Out-take, Take 5)
- ‘Meat City’ (Out-take, Take 16)
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Looks good as the released album I find to be far too overproduced and just 
so will be great to hear the outtakes and everything (hopefully) nicer. I hate how both ‘One Day (At A Time)’ and ‘I Know (I Know) ‘ turned out officially. Great songs unlistenable and unbearable in their finished state.
‘I’m The Greatest’ (included on the ‘Record Store’ EP) is missing from here but there are reports of Easter Eggs on the DVD’s/Blu-rays so could be on there with who knows what else (and no doubt it will eventually circulate online regardless for anyone who wants to hear it).
Oh, and if anyone has a spare £1,350 you can purchase the super deluxe box set (and I thought a £200 White Album pen in 1998 was taking the piss). Sadly you can only buy one tho. I swear these sets are getting more stupid and expensive with each release.
It includes:
YOKO ONO DANGER BOX, 1966
Limited Edition Artwork Reproduction. A 13-inch cube perspex reproduction of Yoko Ono’s 1966 artwork with engraved plates and Certificate of Authenticity, housing the nine boxes that comprise the set.JOHN LENNON YOU ARE HERE, 1968
Limited Edition Canvas Artwork Reproduction. A 12-inch circular canvas reproduction of John Lennon ’s 1968 artwork with Certificate of Authenticity.
MIND GAMES – THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION – STANDARD DELUXE BOX SET
6 CDs, 2 Blu-Rays, 136pp Hardback 10” Book, Poster, Postcards, Nutopian Citizen ID Card.MIND GAMES – THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION – 7x LP BOX
4 x Gatefold LPs comprising 12 Tracks each of The Ultimate Mixes, Elemental Mixes, Elements Mixes, Evolution Documentary, Out-takes and Raw Studio Mixes with 8-Page Booklet, 7 Bespoke Inner Sleeves, 2 Posters and 2 Postcards.MIND GAMES/MEAT CITY EP – HOLOGRAM VINYL
Exclusive bespoke ‘Karmic Wheel’ hologram-engraved picture disc enclosed in a reproduction of John Lennon ’s ‘Build Around It’ artwork.MIND GAMES – MAGIC BOX
The Ultimate Mixes and Out-takes on 2LP colour picture vinyl discs, visually reimagined by Zoetrope animation artist Drew Tetz with bespoke bar animation cover art and poster, 2 postcards and additional zoetrope and bar animation elements.MAPS – JOHN LENNON’S LIVERPOOL and YOKO ONO’S TOKYO
Exclusively designed by map portrait artist Ed Fairburn, these exclusive portrait fold-out 46-inch-square maps of Liverpool (John) and Tokyo (Yoko) contain over 700 locations of interest, highlighted in Ultraviolet ink and every location detailed in accompanying booklets.MIND GAMES – 288 PAGE BOOK from THAMES AND HUDSON
Deep-dive coffee-table hardback book on the events of John & Yoko’s lives in 1973 including the making of the Mind Games album and all the events around it in the words of John & Yoko and the people who were there, featuring brand-new interviews with all the musicians and engineers, exclusive never-before-seen photographs by Bob Gruen, Michael Brennan, Tom Zimberov, Koh Hasabe and David Gahr and exclusive photos, lyrics, letters, original tape boxes and memorabilia from the John Lennon & Yoko Ono Lennon Archives.CITIZEN OF NUTOPIA BOX
Nutopian Flag, Nutopian Embassy Plaque, Declaration of Nutopia, Citizen Of Nutopia Identity Card, Great Seal of Nutopia stamp, You Are Here, YinYang fishes and Not Insane badges Exclusive Reproduction Memorabilia from the Estates of John Lennon & Yoko Ono Lennon.I-CHING BOX
Bespoke John & Yoko I-Ching coins and poster.MIND GAMES PERSPEX WORD PUZZLE
BESPOKE CARDBOARD SHIPPING CONTAINER
Featuring ‘Tenmon Bun’ya no zu’ Map of the Heavens.
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This looks like fun.
A GAME OF THE MIND
On 6th July, 2024, to celebrate the upcoming release of JOHN LENNON MIND GAMES (The Ultimate Collection), Universal Music Group and The John Lennon Estate invite fans to come to Liverpool and take part in a Treasure Hunt across JOHN LENNON’S LIVERPOOL.The Treasure Hunt is a fun, family-friendly day which will give fans a unique experience in John’s home town, beginning at 9am on 6th July at Liverpool Town Hall (High Street, Liverpool L2 3SW).
Using the unique map of JOHN LENNON’S LIVERPOOL created by fine artist Ed Fairburn, locations (to be revealed on the day) across the city with a special relationship to John will have hidden QR codes, to be scanned by fans using their phone camera.
Maps will be available at Liverpool Town Hall from 9am on the day.
Get ready by signing up at citizenofnutopia.com.
Everyone who takes part in this event will get a chance to win a prize depending on how many locations they capture – and the first person to scan the QR codes at every location will win the grand prize of a Super Deluxe MIND GAMES (The Ultimate Collection) Box Set worth £1,350.
More details and the rules for taking part will be released on johnlennon.com in the coming weeks, so make sure to follow John Lennon (on X / Instagram / Facebook) for further information. We can’t wait to see you in Liverpool!
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I gotta say its kind of insane to have the official Nutopian ID card as a part of a 1000$ box set. That kind of over the top consumerism seems to go against what Nutopia was meant to be. I just want a You Are Here shirt and a digital download of the deluxe release but maybe I’m the only one.
Indeed, the whole thing seems ridiculous, especially since “Mind Games ” is such an unexceptional, derivative album in the first place. “Two Minutes Silence” (from “Life With The Lions “) already fulfilled “Nutopian National Anthem”‘s basic conceit, also, for a more substantial length of time too. And finally, none of us should need some silly little card or any kinda piece of paper from John or Yoko or even Sean to give us “permission” to become imaginary citizens of the conceptual imagine-nation of Nutopia – in fact, I daresay that I am already in fact one of its conceptual citizens, damn it!
And so are all of you, if you want it. 
In conclusion, I’m gonna offer Apple an imaginary $1350.00 (CDN) for an imaginary copy of the deluxe box, and not an imaginary penny more
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