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I agree that there’s nothing inherently wrong with circumstantial evidence per se, but when that’s all one has one needs to express tentative conclusions. In court cases, reliance on it is often a necessity for a verdict, but that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily more persuasive than it is.  When it comes to any conspiracy theory, I believe in incorporating questions about the conspirators and their motives and sifting out what makes sense from what doesn’t.  Sure, it’s possible they used Chapman as a patsy but didn’t have enough power over him to recruit him to do his own leg-work establishing himself as a weirdo leading up to the day; but it seems odd they would resort to this, or even that they would feel they have to.  The less control they had over him, the less plausible it is that he would be at the right place at the right time with a gun; but the more control they had over him, the less plausible it is they would need “doubles”. 

@DavidWhelan I’d love to hear your response to the Chapman postings I put up on May 19. 

An interesting thread to read. We’ll never know what was said, but I’m leaning on the side of John making a statement about dying, and being quite accurate about what happened and when. 

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
@Expert Textpert “And he reportedly said something shocking on tape the day of his death, which was subsequently erased by his record producer and never revealed.”

Who “reportedly” said this?

  

Conspiracy theory rhetoric tends to indulge in rhetoric like “reportedly”, weaving a tissue of suggestive innuendo that can have a mesmerizing effect on a reader lulling them into thinking an actual thing or event is being described when if you peel the rhetoric back, it’s all supposition & speculation.  What may be ironic is that I say this counting myself as a conspiracy theorist!

Some more speculation:  the supposed last words of John, being cryptic and being John, have limited possible reasons:

1. a vague drug-induced gloomy foreboding based on nothing more than his internal turmoil and maybe a spate of dark depression

2. a supernatural premonition of a lone psychopath who would kill him in the near future

3. his knowledge of an impending assassination conspiracy.

Given the supposedly cryptic nature of the alleged last words, #3 is possible only if John was afraid of spelling it out more clearly, so he remained cryptic about it. If so, Douglas supposedly erasing the tape makes him either afraid for his own life or part of the conspiracy.  #2 may be more likely, except it requires belief in supernatural prognostication. #1 is the most likely “natural” explanation — except Douglas erasing it becomes more puzzling. 

Or a #4 — John’s last words were about something else entirely, but that something else is so sensitive a subject Douglas didn’t want it getting out.