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The flaws in this guy’s theories are manifest.

According to what can be gleaned of this conspiracy, John and Yoko are dropped off on the street outside the gates of the Dakota, they head for the entrance, Yoko two or three feet ahead of John, shots ring out, some from a second gunman in front of John, who Yoko doesn’t see because it’s a dark night.

But this is the entrance to the Dakota that night:

Now, admittedly, with the police there in full force, along with the media, this is probably better lit than it was when John and Yoko arrived home, apart from the area behind the gates where the lights have been turned off, possibly to protect part of the crime scene from public gaze. Here’s how that entrance looks on a normal night:

Now, I wouldn’t call that the darkest of walks. It looks pretty hard to think of a scenario where there could be a second gunman in front of John that Yoko wouldn’t have noticed. Night, yes. Dark, not really.

Also the claim, supposedly from Dr. Halleran, that a Navy Seal would have difficulty with those shots from 25 feet away — well, not if they wanted to keep their job. And even if a 25 foot shot would have been impressive, the evidence shows the arsehole shot from 9 to 10 feet away, including in statements he made.

Then you have the problem of Dr. Elliot Gross’ autopsy report. It has John being hit four times, twice through the shoulder, twice in the back. One of the shots in the back went straight through his left lung and exited, the second also went through his left lung, and lodged in his neck.

I’ll be interested to see what Dr. Halleran and the nurses have to say, but having seen and heard many previous interviews with all three, I have never heard them dispute anything about that night apart from whether Dr. Stephan Lynn had anything to do with the attempts to save John.

You have to feel sorry for these people who just can’t accept that s***e happens, that life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans, and so have to scrabble around in stupidity because they refuse to accept that 99.99% of the time it’s just a case of s***e happening.

There are always those who can’t accept that it’s that simple; that just because of who the person is, or what the event is, there has to be more to it. And, whatever the evidence, they find their more, and cling to it like a life raft because if senseless violence can happen to someone like John, it can happen to anyone — including them.

So the reach is made to make it more than the senseless s***e it was.

Well, there’s Fred Seaman, @vonbontee, and anything from him depends on how credible you find him. It’s certainly not unthinkable that John may have thought Reagan was a better than Carter. One of Reagan’s successes was the amount of Democrats he was able to attract, who were dubbed “Reagan Democrats” — an early example of the cult of personality being more important than political beliefs in the Presidential race.

@Into the Sky with Diamonds was spot on when he said John wasn’t talking politics in 1980. I’ve read the 1980 interviews, and the subject is barely touched. John rarely talked about his political views after the end of 1972.

That’s why this guy has to reach — Well, if it wasn’t the Government, it could have been the Christian Right. Just gotta find someone to blame that ain’t the guy who pulled the trigger because that would be too simple. There just has to be more, and I will damn well find it… However ludicrous my arguments, they just have to be true, because it couldn’t just be one man with a gun… There has to be more to it!