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Do you believe that John Lennon`s influence is still present these days?
25 January 2018
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As my question already tells, I would like to know if you think John as a person and his work is still relevant nowadays. 

I love johns song texts and the beatles music in general. 

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Welcome, 8daysaweek!

OMG, have you heard Liam Gallagher’s recent “Wall of Glass”? Sounds very much like Lennon’s “Steel And Glass

(Liam apparently named his son “Lennon”)

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Relevance is relative. He has had plenty of interviews along with so many songs about enough topics where somebody could make him relevant in any aspect of their life and the world around them if they so choose. But to the general human population, he is pretty irrelevant (as most things are).

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I often wonder if John (and Yoko) had a big influence on attitudes to gender roles i.e the idea that a man could be a house husband whilst the woman had the high powered job. I don’t think it was common back in 1980 but now we don’t blink an eye at this scenario or am I wrong?

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Leppo said
I often wonder if John (and Yoko) had a big influence on attitudes to gender roles i.e the idea that a man could be a house husband whilst the woman had the high powered job. I don’t think it was common back in 1980 but now we don’t blink an eye at this scenario or am I wrong?  

I recall that back in the late 70s during a phase when John was “decompressing” he said he enjoyed just pottering around the (multi-million $$$) house, doing housework and listening to Muzak.

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To answer the original question: yes. Even if not directly. John, either alone or with the other Beatles, influenced an entire generation. That generation had/has an influence on their kids, grandkids, etc… The wide variety of ages of the members in this very Forum is proof of that. Many generations reside here.

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Here’s proof Lennon’s influence is still present TODAY. Jamie Skylar Delivers Ethereal Message from John Lennon in “I Know You Know the Walrus Too”

Jamie Skylar is definitely NOT relevant, though, so how strong is does this hold up as “proof” that John Lennon is relevant? It only proves that he is relevant to this irrelevant person. 

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Would we be discussing it if his influence wasn’t still present?

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said

Ahhh Girl said
Here’s proof Lennon’s influence is still present TODAY. Jamie Skylar Delivers Ethereal Message from John Lennon in “I Know You Know the Walrus Too”

Jamie Skylar is definitely NOT relevant, though, so how strong is does this hold up as “proof” that John Lennon is relevant? It only proves that he is relevant to this irrelevant person.   

I’m not sure I follow your logic, LPD. AG said his “influence” is still present. In two separate posts in this thread, you are arguing about his relevance. Perhaps the confusion (on my part as well as yours) is due to the fact that the thread title asks about John’s influence while the OP posed a question in the first post that asks about his relevance.

If this thread is asking about his influence, I offer an unequivocal yes. If you ask me about his relevance, my confidence wavers.

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Zig said

I’m not sure I follow your logic, LPD. AG said his “influence” is still present. In two separate posts in this thread, you are arguing about his relevance. Perhaps the confusion (on my part as well as yours) is due to the fact that the thread title asks about John’s influence while the OP posed a question in the first post that asks about his relevance.

If this thread is asking about his influence, I offer an unequivocal yes. If you ask me about his relevance, my confidence wavers.  

His message of peace is more “relevant” than ever…  and that crosses over to the music where ‘Give Peace A Chance ‘ is sung at candlelight vigils all over the globe to this day…  his music is covered literally on a daily basis at concerts everywhere…  His “relevance” has transcended far beyond the Rock ‘N’ Roll beginnings…  Lennon Lives…:-)

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ahdn_paul_06Suddenly, my confidence is less waver-y. There’s no shadow hanging over me…

Ooops – wrong Beatle. a-hard-days-night-john-7

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Zig said

I’m not sure I follow your logic, LPD. AG said his “influence” is still present. In two separate posts in this thread, you are arguing about his relevance. Perhaps the confusion (on my part as well as yours) is due to the fact that the thread title asks about John’s influence while the OP posed a question in the first post that asks about his relevance.

If this thread is asking about his influence, I offer an unequivocal yes. If you ask me about his relevance, my confidence wavers.  

I was talking of relevance because the first post in the thread asks about relevance. 

I could argue that he is relevant today and could also argue that his influence is still present, but I could also argue the opposite. It’s a pretty broad question. My opinion would be based upon how specific of a level we are talking. In the grand scheme of the world, I would say no, but on a smaller scale, I would say that for many people, in their lives, the answer would be yes. Obviously his influence is still present for many people, but is it present to society? To the world? I don’t know that it is.

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said
Obviously his influence is still present for many people, but is it present to society? To the world? I don’t know that it is.  

https://www.rollingstone.com/m…..ny-w516579

Can’t really imagine (pun intended) any better example of his influence/relevance “present to society” and “To the world” than this…:-)

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The Beatles’ legacy is secured as a band, so that means Lennon’s legacy is also secured. He is preserved for all time as a restless voice. His work is always going to be something people can tap into and find inspiration in. 

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