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Did John dislike any of Paul's songs?
31 October 2013
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First, I love this website! I love reading everyone’s posts. My question is simple and I didn’t see any topics discussing this, so I thought I’d ask!

I was listening to Abbey Road and Magical Mystery Tour today, and the question popped into my head of “I wonder what Paul songs, John didn’t care for, or even like?” The song Your Mother Should Know came on and I thought I wonder if John even liked this song, while it was on the album it sounds very “clean” for Magical Mystery. If anyone has ever heard of specific Paul songs, John didn’t like, I’d love to hear!

 

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31 October 2013
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Hi, davedrum, welcome to the board! I don’t have at the moment quotes/links to interviews where John mentioned disliking Paul’s songs, but if you were to read interviews from the 70s you’ll probably find examples. And I’m sure someone will respond with specifics.

But your question reminded me of another thread you might want to check out, since the phrase “granny s**t music” came from John.

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31 October 2013
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Welcome to the forum!  apple01

The first one that comes to mind is “Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da ” because he referred to it as Paul’s “granny s**t”.  I can reference some more later but that one always sticks out in my mind.

 

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31 October 2013
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Hi there, welcome to the forum!

 

Maxwell’s Silver Hammer is another one. John wasn’t the only one who disliked it, they all did. 

There are quite a lot of Paul songs he disliked, actually. Especially in the last few Beatles years and after the Beatles.

31 October 2013
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Welcome to our forum! I know one song for certain John hated…and I can’t remember the stupid title. It’s the song from RAM (I think) that John responded with “How Do Yo Sleep At Night?” Ugh…I hate this…I’ll be bugged that I can’t remember all day!

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31 October 2013
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mccartneyalarm said
Welcome to our forum! I know one song for certain John hated…and I can’t remember the stupid title. It’s the song from RAM (I think) that John responded with “How Do Yo Sleep At Night?” Ugh…I hate this…I’ll be bugged that I can’t remember all day!

John disliked “Too Many People ,” because of (for instance) the line “You took your lucky break and broke it in two.” He also thought that the song “Three Legs” was meant to portray the Beatles, minus one. And he hated “Dear Boy ,” beause he felt it was addressed to him. I don’t know about “Monkberry Moon Delight ,” he might have tapped his toe to that one. ;-)

31 October 2013
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The solo McCartney mentioned in How Do You Sleep? was Another Day . The only thing you done was Yesterday / And since your gone you’re just Another Day . Or something.

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31 October 2013
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Thanks, mja6758…I feel better now!

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31 October 2013
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mccartneyalarm said
Thanks, mja6758…I feel better now!

Just fyi, I think he would feel better if you called him by his less formal name of just mja. I just found this out today. Let’s show mja some heart.

 

 

31 October 2013
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John disliked “Hello Goodbye “, probably thought it was too obvious ‘you say yes, I say no’  ‘you say high I say low’ etc

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31 October 2013
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In addition to the ones above, he hated Maxwell’s Silver Hammer , The Long And Winding Road (witness his subliminal sabotage in his atrocious bass playing), Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da…it seems John had more visceral hate for Paul’s songs that he wasn’t crazy about once Paul became the dominant force in the group (late-1966 to the end), whereas when John was the dominant force (1962-mid’66), he was more tolerant.

However, he also had high praise for MANY of Paul’s tune, especially Hey Jude , All My Loving , Fool On the Hill, etc.

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31 October 2013
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However, he also had high praise for MANY of Paul’s tune, especially Hey Jude , All My Loving , Fool On the Hill, etc.

I read somewhere that John really admired “Why Don’t We Do It In The Road,” and he was hurt that Paul had not invited him to contribute anything to the tune. That’s too bad. While I feel that WDWDIITR is an acceptable ditty, I wonder how great it could have been if it was given the full band treatment.

31 October 2013
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“Granny s**t music!” John referred to 3 titles when he used the term. The first was Ob-La Di, Ob-La-Da. The second was Maxwell’s Silver Hammer . The third, of which John’s disdain is obvious in this take, was this…

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31 October 2013
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He disliked most of the McCartney album as well – told Jann Wenner “I couldn’t believe how poor it was” or something like that. (Then generously added “I expect his next one will be better,” which is pretty amusing and ironic in retrospect, considering how many of those future Ram tracks ended up pissing him off.)

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31 October 2013
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vonbontee said
He disliked most of the McCartney album… many of those future Ram tracks ended up pissing him off…

Hey, did anyone here ever read anything about John’s reaction to Paul’s Band On The Run track “Let Me Roll It ?” Hmm, that would be intriguing to know what he thought about that obvious Plastic-Ono-Band-ish-sounding song. Did he feel it was an honest homage to his post-Beatles style, or did it rub him the wrong way? Like Paul sings… “I can’t tell you how I feel…”

31 October 2013
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Bungalow Bob said

vonbontee said
He disliked most of the McCartney album… many of those future Ram tracks ended up pissing him off…

Hey, did anyone here ever read anything about John’s reaction to Paul’s Band On The Run track “Let Me Roll It ?” Hmm, that would be intriguing to know what he thought about that obvious Plastic-Ono-Band-ish-sounding song. Did he feel it was an honest homage to his post-Beatles style, or did it rub him the wrong way? Like Paul sings… “I can’t tell you how I feel…”

I would think he liked it because the guitar riff in “Beef Jerky” always sounded like an homage.

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31 October 2013
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parlance said
I would think he liked it because the guitar riff in “Beef Jerky” always sounded like an homage.

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I’m not that familiar with the Walls And Bridges album, so I just went to iTunes and clicked on “Beef Jerky.” Wow, that “Let Me Roll It ” guitar riff is blasted right at the beginning of the song sample. So I think you’re correct; John is sincerely paying homage to an homage there. ;-)

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This discussion puts me in mind of a possible Topic I may start; hmmmm….

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mccartneyalarm said
Welcome to our forum! I know one song for certain John hated…and I can’t remember the stupid title. It’s the song from RAM (I think) that John responded with “How Do Yo Sleep At Night?” Ugh…I hate this…I’ll be bugged that I can’t remember all day!

John disliked “Too Many People ,” because of (for instance) the line “You took your lucky break and broke it in two.” He also thought that the song “Three Legs” was meant to portray the Beatles, minus one. And he hated “Dear Boy ,” beause he felt it was addressed to him. I don’t know about “Monkberry Moon Delight ,” he might have tapped his toe to that one. ;-)

John really liked Monkberry Moon Delight . During a guest stint as a radio dj in Autumn ’74 he expressed his desire to play MMD over Jet but the station didn’t have it.

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^ heh – I was thinking it might be easier to give a list of Paul’s songs which Lennon claimed to like – it would be much shorter.

I suspect a lot of this supposed dislike was just rivalry when Paul was starting to do so well, even if it was couched in typical Lennon sarcasm.  Reminds me of the telegram which John sent to Ringo when Rings was having so many hits:

“Congratulations. How dare you? And please write me a hit song.” :)

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