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Yeah but then what about RS? They were very popular too.
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12 November 2012
Offline I just remembered… it was Billboard that said Elvis was the #1 artist in the 50s and the #2 artist in the 60s behind the Beatles. In the 70s, Elvis was #13.
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Offline As said above Elvis was shoving soundtrack albums out every year and all his fans would have gobble them up. The rate of albums was only beaten by the amount of drugs and food he was shoving into his system. It’s actually surprising to look at his discography and see that he was releasing albums in the mid 60’s as they are rarely referred to and had little relevance during that period.
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Exactly. We’re talking about the entire decade here, after all, which includes the period 1960-1963, during which the Rolling Stones released no music at all in the USA. During that same period, ELEVEN (!) Top 40 Elvis albums were released (including soundtracks, a coupla best-ofs, a gospel album and a Christmas album), three of which were #1 on the Billboard chart. (The Stones only had one American chart-topper in the whole decade.) And another 9 Elvis albums all went top 20 between 1964 and 1966.
With a ridiculous output like that, to outsell the Rolling Stones really isn’t so surprising. (Actually, it’s possible that even the Monkees sold more records than the Stones, as far as ’60s teenage America goes.)
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1 November 2012
Offline meanmistermustard said John was right when he said that Elvis died when he went into the Army.
Actually, I think the quote was slightly different — and so had a much broader and more profound import:
“Rock died when Elvis joined the Army.”
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17 December 2012
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meanmistermustard said John was right when he said that Elvis died when he went into the Army.
Actually, I think the quote was slightly different — and so had a much broader and more profound import:
“Rock died when Elvis joined the Army.”
The quote was, not sure from exactly which interview (maybe the Playboy), but one of the 1980 interviews:
“Up until Elvis joined the army, I thought it was beautiful music and Elvis was for me and my generation what the Beatles were to the ’60s. But after he went into the army, I think they cut “les bollocks” off. They not only shaved his hair off but I think they shaved between his legs, too. He played some good stuff after the army, but it was never quite the same, It was like something happened to him psychologically. Elvis really died the day he joined the army. That’s when they killed him, and the rest was a living death.”
So, the quote was specifically about Elvis and not rock’n’roll in general, though he had similar views about what happened to that early period of rock’n’roll.
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14 December 2012
Offline At one point, he tried to have them deported because he thought they were a threat to the american youth.
In reality, he was just afraid for his own career due to their increasing popularity.
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1 November 2012
Offline Mel Gibson also hates John Lennon — according to Joe Esterhazy, the screenwriter whom Mel hired — then fired — to work on his latest movie (about the Jewish Maccabees).
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1 November 2012
Offline meanmistermustard said
Hmmm.. Sacked screenwriter makes allegations against the guy who fired him
In the snippet you provided, Mel doesn’t mention John Lennon .
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1 May 2011
Offline Mel is quoted as saying “I will say that the great majority of the facts as well as the statements and actions attributed to me in your letter are utter fabrications.” which would cover the John comments. Now the key words are “great majority” so its left up in the air as to what parts fall into the small minority of being true.
All i am saying is the guy who got fired by his boss has made a statement saying his boss made certain rants of which the boss denies most of (the statement doesnt go into details) – its a question of who do you believe. It happens all the time with disgruntled staff where some are true and some are not, those who are famous get more attention over what was said to have happened. I wasnt there so air on the side of ‘dont know, dont care, move on’.
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1 November 2012
Offline meanmistermustard said
Mel is quoted as saying “I will say that the great majority of the facts as well as the statements and actions attributed to me in your letter are utter fabrications.” which would cover the John comments. Now the key words are “great majority” so its left up in the air as to what parts fall into the small minority of being true.All i am saying is the guy who got fired by his boss has made a statement saying his boss made certain rants of which the boss denies most of (the statement doesnt go into details) – its a question of who do you believe. It happens all the time with disgruntled staff where some are true and some are not, those who are famous get more attention over what was said to have happened. I wasnt there so air on the side of ‘dont know, dont care, move on’.
I don’t believe Esterhazy bothered to mention, in his letter, Mel’s alleged statement about Lennon. It would be silly to mention that, as it has no bearing on his (Esterhazy’s) claim of being cheated in his contract and of Mel abusing his (Esterhazy’s) 15-year-old son with grotesque statements about how he (Mel) wanted to “f**k his (Mel’s) ex-gf in the ass while stabbing her to death” — something you don’t tell a 15-year-old boy.
Anyway, what I know is that Esterhazy mentioned the Lennon allegation (among many other lurid weird s**t about Mel) in an interview with Howard Stern. To my ears, Esterhazy in that interview sounded quite grounded and rational.
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1 May 2011
Offline Well thats me talking nonsense then but its still one mans word against another.
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17 December 2012
Offline From the NY Daily News website, dated 12 April 2012, under the headline, “Mel Gibson thinks John Lennon deserved to be shot, says ‘Maccabees’ screenwriter Joe Eszterhas”:
In an angry nine-page letter addressed to the hot-tempered actor, which was obtained by TheWrap, Eszterhas alleges Gibson once said he thought Beatles legend John Lennon deserved to die.
“I’m glad he’s dead. He deserved to be shot. He was a f–king messianic,” Gibson allegedly ranted about the musician. “Listen to his songs! ‘Imagine .’ I hate that f–king song. I’m glad he’s dead.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ent…..z2HJ1cOMC3
Hope this helps.
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21 November 2012
Offline Wow.
Gibson is an even bigger a*****e than I thought.
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17 December 2012
Offline Linde said
Wow.Gibson is an even bigger a*****e than I thought.
meanmistermustard has a valid point though. It is just one man’s word against another, and not defending Gibson at all, who I also think rather an a*****e, he did go on to deny the accusation.
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14 December 2009
Offline Mel Gibson is a crazy racist drunken lunatic – why should anyone care what he thinks?
And apparently it’s not “one man’s word against another” as much as it is “one man’s word against an actual RECORDING of said man”. Really, Gibson’s said so much vile stuff over the last decade, that expressing joy over the death of John Lennon actually seems relatively mild in comparison.
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Offline Von Bontee, do you mean there is an actual recording of what Mel said about John or where you referring to the interview Eszterhas gave?
Im aware that Gibson has said many incredibly foul, stupid and hideous rants over the last what 8 years and its no surprise that his career has bombed with s**t movie after s**t movie but thats immaterial. Until we have someone else backing up the claims about what Mel reportedly said about John then it will remain one mans word against another and that is not something i think is enough to come to a conclusion.
Should add that John was still a huge fan of Elvis’s early rock and roll in the 70’s, even covering Hound Dog in Madison Square Gardens.
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7.28pm
1 November 2012
Offline meanmistermustard said
Well thats me talking nonsense then but its still one mans word against another.
I can’t imagine anyone who has listened to the Mel Gibson phone message (as well as live phone call) rants his ex-girlfriend recorded ever believing Mel is not an unhinged lunatic. Again, nothing I know about Esterhazy (including that hour-long interview) indicates that he is not a normally rational person. I cannot say the same for Mel after hearing those phone rants. Sure, everyone loses their temper at one time or another, but those phone rants go beyond that and reveal a scary dark side to Mel that only an irrationally cynical nihilst would think “everyone” has.
So this isn’t an issue merely of “one man’s word against another” — it’s one normal man’s word against a psychotic’s word. Funny thing, I choose the former.
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Offline I dont think anyone is saying Gibson doesnt have history for being a nutjob, all i am saying is that we have one man who was sacked by Gibson making allegations which have not been substantiated so there is room for doubt.
If a convicted burglar is accused of breaking into a house and robbing the place by the owner should he be found guilty based on his past and one mans testimony without any corroborating evidence? Of course not.
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