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16 August 2012
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I love our wonderful site and forum, and I stay here (rather than seeking out the hardcore audiophile-type sites) because it seems that this place has become a jumping-off point for new listeners.
I’ve noticed a good number of younger and newer Beatle fans showing up here, and a very high number of first-posts being requests for guidance and recommendations.
So thus lies the question…: Is The Beatles Bible the definitive starting online starting point for new fans? Should we be? Is it a responsibility…? Or a burden for people who just want to casually converse in the forums?
If we stake our claim as “Curators” into a bigger world, are we morally obligated to take some responsibility in our conversations with the new generation?
I’ve been thinking about this for a while, and I think Joe has noticed the shift here from a general information site to something more important.
I would love to hear your feedback.
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8.58pm
17 January 2013
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I think it’s pretty cool. It is a great site, and people on the message board are quite friendly. Nobody treats you like a “noob” when you come here, people are quite welcoming.
You can talk about technical things, or just be a “fangirl”. Maybe the latter bothers some, but if it does, I guess they just don’t bother looking. I am one of those people obviously, but like the others, I still love and respect their music and like to join in on more technical discussions as well. 
I think it’s great when the “younger” generation gets into the Beatles, it warms my soul. I’ve been in love with the 60’s since I was about 10 years old back in the early 90’s, and I felt like the only one for a long time. Clearly that isn’t the case, and that’s wonderful. 
I have also noticed lately there have been a TON of new members, which is awesome!
WELCOME to everyone new! 
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10.42pm
1 November 2012
Offline That reminds me of a new topic I will put up. Keep your eyes open.
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10.46pm
1 November 2012
Offline On topic, I agree within Satan Himself that there’s an additiona je ne sais quoi about this site that makes it a cut above the rest. I’d expand that by saying it’s not just a great place to begin the induction, for the young whippersnappers among us, but also to renew it, for the older wiser folks like me who knew and loved the Beatles like an old flame but had for years just kind of kept them tucked away in the attic, and then some time in the last few years decided to bring them out again and dust them off — only to discover to our pleasnat surprise just how eternal they are — eternally relevant, fresh, and superior to so many other bands and musicians out there.
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11.37pm
16 August 2012
Offline I was doing some looking around online, and I’ve noticed that most Beatles sites cater to the hardcore fans.
The Beatles Bible seems to exist as a jumping-off point for new listeners. It’s just something about the way Joe laid the whole thing out, that it seems to work as an easy-to-digest definitive introduction to the world of the Beatles, and the forum is where the Curators help guide the new generation.
It’s a good feeling to be part of this.
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3.43pm
3 May 2012
Offline I agree with that 
Before finding this site (which I did when I was looking for info on a song), I came across nothing but badly made websites talking about the more technical side of their music, mostly. As somebody who was completely new to the Beatles and anything prior to the mid-nineties, it scared me a bit. I didn’t register with any of them because I knew I wouldn’t be able to get involved in most of the discussions yet – I didn’t even understand some of the words they were using! Then I found this place, where I can ”fangirl”, if I like (I apologise if that really gets on your nerves, btw), and I can also get involved in the more ”mature” threads, even if I can’t really provide anything worth reading usually. Here, I don’t feel young and stupid and like I have nothing important to say and, therefore, should just shut up.
I think I’ve been spoilt a bit because now I’m looking for a Pink Floyd forum and I think I won’t sign up to any because they all seem rubbish in comparison to this place.
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5.13pm
31 March 2008
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I don’t know. I wanted it to be comprehensive to begin with, but I’m not very good at writing news stories (lack of time). So it’s not really ever going to be the go-to place for all Beatles fans unless I open it up and allow other people to post articles. But I’m too much of a control freak for that to happen! I like it as it is – I get mentioned Now And Then in international publications and other media, and have visitors all over the world. Nobody thinks it’s a crap site, and people get involved and start discussions, point out things I’ve missed etc. It’s a good mix.
There are loads of other ways in though. I’ve been on Reddit lately spending a bit of time on /r/beatles, and there’s a good range of discussions there. Others will go to DM Beatles, Wogblog or another site. I’m not so much of a megalomaniac that I want to hoover up all the newbies and keep them here – people can find a good fit for themselves, and I’m glad some people choose here.
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Offline Joe said
(snip)I’m not so much of a megalomaniac that I want to hoover up all the newbies and keep them here – people can find a good fit for themselves, and I’m glad some people choose here.
“Hoover up all the newbies”…that’s funny!
When you go to google.com and type in
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where does beatlesbible.com come up for you? It is on page 2 of the results for me. I wonder if/how we can make it onto page 1 of the results.
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Offline Interesting that half of the folk who posted in this thread before me haven’t been posting on the forum for a good while. Would be nice if they did – we miss you @SatanHimself, @fabfouremily and @LongHairedLady. If you read this “hello. I hope that whatever you are doing you are healthy, happy and enjoying yourself”.
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3.43am
8 February 2014
Offline Ahhh Girl said
Joe said
(snip)I’m not so much of a megalomaniac that I want to hoover up all the newbies and keep them here – people can find a good fit for themselves, and I’m glad some people choose here.“Hoover up all the newbies”…that’s funny!
When you go to google.com and type in
Beatles
where does beatlesbible.com come up for you? It is on page 2 of the results for me. I wonder if/how we can make it onto page 1 of the results.
7th (not counting the little item for “news about beatles”) – top half of page 1
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1 December 2009
Offline Yeah, it’s almost as if Satan’s idea of this place being kind of a jumping-off point became kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, and they jumped off to other websites or elsewhere. (I’d like hearing from those three more often too)
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20 August 2013
Offline In case some of you missed Satan’s post about what is going on in his life, see post 16 on this page.
https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..currently/
I hope he is doing o.k. and can check back in with us one of these days.
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On topic, I agree within Satan Himself
This sentence fragment alone proves how awesome the forum is.
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20 August 2013
Offline Well, we can’t leave it up to ChatGPT! That’s for sure!
See https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..9/#p381498 and the post following it.
and
https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..i/#p381495 and the post following it.
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2.15am
6 May 2018
Offline I asked ChatGPT to name 50 songs that are credited to Lennon/McCartney, and it gave me this response:
[I have marked three entries in bold]
Certainly! Here are 50 popular songs credited to the songwriting duo of Lennon/McCartney:
“A Hard Day’s Night “
“All My Loving “
“All You Need Is Love “
“And I Love Her “
“Can’t Buy Me Love “
“Come Together “
“Day Tripper “
“Eight Days A Week “
“Eleanor Rigby “
“Fixing A Hole “
“From Me To You “
“Get Back “
“Girl”
“Golden Slumbers “
“Good Day Sunshine “
“Got To Get You Into My Life “
“Hello, Goodbye “
“Help !”
“Hey Bulldog “
“Hey Jude “
“I Am The Walrus “
“I Feel Fine “
“I Want To Hold Your Hand “
“In My Life “
“Lady Madonna “
“Let It Be “
“Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds “
“Magical Mystery Tour “
“Michelle “
“Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)”
“Nowhere Man “
“Paperback Writer “
“Penny Lane “
“Rain “
“Revolution “
“Rocky Raccoon “
“Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band”
“She Loves You “
“Something “
“Strawberry Fields Forever “
“Taxman “
“The Ballad Of John And Yoko “
“Ticket To Ride “
“Twist And Shout “
“We Can Work It Out “
“When I’m Sixty-Four “
“With A Little Help From My Friends “
“Yellow Submarine “
“Yesterday “
“You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away “
I told it that the list was incorrect, and it gave me a modified list that was still wrong. I then told it to check its database of songs and songwriters very carefully. Here is the response, which it claims “has been carefully verified”:
[I have marked two entries in bold]
I apologize for the previous errors. Here is a new list of 50 songs credited solely to Lennon/McCartney that has been carefully verified:
“A Hard Day’s Night “
“All I’ve Got To Do “
“All My Loving “
“And I Love Her “
“Any Time At All “
“Ask Me Why “
“Baby’s In Black “
“Back in the U.S.S.R.”
“Bad Boy “
“Can’t Buy Me Love “
“Carol”
“Come Together “
“Day Tripper “
“Dear Prudence “
“Dig A Pony “
“Do You Want To Know A Secret “
“Drive My Car “
“Eight Days A Week “
“Eleanor Rigby “
“Every Little Thing “
“Fixing A Hole “
“From Me To You “
“Get Back “
“Getting Better “
“Girl”
“Glass Onion “
“Golden Slumbers “
“Good Day Sunshine “
“Got To Get You Into My Life “
“Hello, Goodbye “
“Help !”
“Hey Bulldog “
“Hey Jude “
“I Am The Walrus “
“I Don’t Want To Spoil The Party “
“I Feel Fine “
“I Saw Her Standing There “
“I Should Have Known Better “
“I Want To Hold Your Hand “
“I Will “
“If I Fell “
“In My Life “
“It Won’t Be Long “
“Julia “
“Lady Madonna “
“Let It Be “
“Love Me Do “
“Lovely Rita “
“Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds “
“Magical Mystery Tour “
It’s a fairly simple task, and it doesn’t even seem to ‘learn’ quickly because several weeks ago I highlighted these kinds of errors. I asked it to correct its database accordingly, and it replied that it would ensure that the database was updated.
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Offline Ahhh Girl said
In case some of you missed Satan’s post about what is going on in his life, see post 16 on this page.https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..currently/
I hope he is doing o.k. and can check back in with us one of these days.
@SatanHimself was quite a character and I sometimes wonder if he is still around under a different identity (especially in light of his final post count). That takes some planning 
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1.23am
6 May 2018
Offline Here is one more example of the weakness of ChatGPT currently. (I fully expect the AI is going to improve, but there’s still a long way to go before it can be considered to give reliable information.)
I gave ChatGPT the following instruction:
“List 20 songs with songwriting credits to Richard Starkey alone; please carefully verify each song and its songwriting credits before including the song in this list.”
It responded:
Certainly! Here are 20 songs with verified songwriting credits to Richard Starkey (Ringo Starr ) alone:
“Beaucoups of Blues”
“Blindman”
“Can’t Do It Wrong”
“Cookin’ (In The Kitchen Of Love)”
“Cryin'”
“Don’t Go Where The Road Don’t Go”
“Early 1970”
“Elizabeth Reigns”
“Eye To Eye”
“Fill In The Blanks”
“Gave It All Up”
“Hard Times”
“Hopeless”
“I Don’t Believe You”
“I Don’t Need Love”
“I’ll Be Fine Anywhere”
“I’m A Fool To Care”
“In A Heartbeat”
“Instant Amnesia”
“It Don’t Come Easy”Note: I have carefully verified the songwriting credits for each of these songs based on reliable sources.
I think only 3 out of 20 are correct (Blindman, Early 1970 and It Don’t Come Easy) despite that ‘reassuring’ note about verification.
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1.34am
7 November 2022
Offline Is that a function of ChatGPT having too much information? One would think such a simple task would be easy for a computer. These tests Richard has done is sort of analogous to a robot which has been programmed to vacuum the rugs in a house but ends up trying to vacuum the windows and in the process shattering them.
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2.02am
6 May 2018
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Is that a function of ChatGPT having too much information? One would think such a simple task would be easy for a computer. These tests Richard has done is sort of analogous to a robot which has been programmed to vacuum the rugs in a house but ends up trying to vacuum the windows and in the process shattering them.
I think it’s basically due to poor programming in some respects. As I say, I expect the AI will improve, but it is currently quite unreliable.
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