Please consider registering
Guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
"The Beatles: Eight Days A Week" (Ron Howard movie) (The Beatles Live Project)
27 September 2016
5.44pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 25177
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
321sp_Permalink sp_Print

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
I watched it last night and may be the only one who’s been pleasantly surprised.

Maybe because I read so many negative comments?

I was in no rush to see it.

And yes, I agree that not much was new. (Much was taken from Anthology.)

But: there were some film clips and pictures I’d never seen. (When you go to a McCartney concert, you hear many of the songs you’ve heard at prior Macca concerts, but that’s OK, they’re still enjoyable, and he always throws in a few songs you’ve never heard live before.) Secondly, the sound was terrific; it was clear; you could really hear the bass. Finally, I thought the editing was first rate. The movie zips along; the song choices are strong. I forget what song it was, but I loved seeing John and Paul singing at the same mic. (I only remember them doing that on Baby’s In Black ) (How lucky that they were roughly the same height in addition of course to being righty-lefty).

I’d read that you’d get to see the entire Hollywood Bowl concerts (a mixture of ’64 – ’65), but in fact there’s just one song I think. I probably got the movie and the CD mixed up.

I think Ron Howard did a good job of catering to both Beatle fans and Beatle nubies.  

The Hollywood Bowl concerts weren’t professionally filmed but around 22 minutes of footage from the 1964 performance synced to the audio circulates in the underground circuit and it turns out that audio from the Hollywood Bowl was used elsewhere in the film in favour of the correct audio performances.

Yes, we do get wonderful colour film from Manchester, courtesy of the Pathé film “The Beatles Come To Town” and outtake footage from that film, but the soundtrack of the two songs there, “Twist And Shout ” and “She Loves You ” is from Hollywood Bowl 1964!

(Source: Wogblog)

The CD is the 13 track 1977 compilation featuring tracks from the 1964 and 1965 shows plus 4 newly-added bonus tracks tacked on to the end; Apple opted to not release any of the full complete concerts.

The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:

Into the Sky with Diamonds

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

28 September 2016
5.03am
Avatar
Leppo
London
Hollywood Bowl
Members
Forum Posts: 657
Member Since:
6 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I just watched this and whilst it’s not a bad documentary which I enjoyed watching, based on the build up we’ve been getting for all these years it could have been much more and it doesn’t fit the description of what we were told it would be. It’s certainly missed the original stated target of a film about the Live touring years. It has fallen between two stools. You have to wonder if they got all the footage together and then realised they would need to pad the film out with general Beatles biography stuff. I agree with the Anthology-lite label and as a Bio it was never going to match up to that so why didn’t they realise this and aim for something else?  Also “The Band you know, the story you don’t”  paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif Did anyone learn anything new? To be fair I didn’t know about the Beatles putting their foot down on the segregation issue but I can’t think of anything else.

Here’s also a few things I noted. On the plus side I thought The Royal Command performance footage looked amazing quality. Was it colourised? Some of the colourisation in other segments looked all wrong.. i.e the first US press conference & Washington concert (hair colour looked strange and did they cut John’s cripple routine?). Some footage looked surprisingly bad quality i.e First Ed Sullivan concert, Plaza hotel footage, Liverpool reception (this was awful quality). I really thought there was better footage in existence of these.

Lastly why did they discuss the films AHDN & Help and the artistry of the albums Revolver & Sgt Pepper ? What’s the connection to the touring years?

 

There’s an excellent review of the film on Wogblog and I think this sums it up for me:

“I think Ron Howard went and ruined the film – it would have been better without him. Because what did he bring to the table? Well, for one thing – he removed most of the concert footage and brought in the talking heads. And then he emphasized the North American tours at the cost of all the other concerts the Beatles gave in the rest of the world. That’s no documentary, that’s revisionism!”  http://wogew.blogspot.co.uk/20…..-shea.html

 

EDIT: oops I just realised this review was mentioned on the last page.

The following people thank Leppo for this post:

Zig

Pivotal Moments in Beatles History No.118:  Yoko helps herself to one of George's digestives. 

28 September 2016
4.08pm
Avatar
Into the Sky with Diamonds
New York
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1984
Member Since:
10 August 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
323sp_Permalink sp_Print

“And then he emphasized the North American tours at the cost of all the other concerts the Beatles gave in the rest of the world.”

My reaction was the opposite: we had a great deal of Australia, Paris, Scandinavia”

@Mean Mr. Mustard I was of course thrilled to see “Dizzy Miss Lizzy ” in the movie (it’s one of my faves), but considering how much you dislike it, I wonder if it turned you off or whether the live version appealed to you more.

@Leppo “Lastly why did they discuss the films AHDN & Help and the artistry of the albums Revolver & Sgt Pepper? What’s the connection to the touring years?”

I do think it’s relevant because it shows that they were doing so much more than “just” touring.

On another note, I was fortunate to hear the movie on a very good sound system, and wonder if that contributed to my particular enjoyment.

"Into the Sky with Diamonds" (the Beatles and the Race to the Moon – a history)

28 September 2016
4.30pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 25177
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
324sp_Permalink sp_Print

Leppo (aka fabbeatlebooks) said
I just watched this and whilst it’s not a bad documentary which I enjoyed watching, based on the build up we’ve been getting for all these years it could have been much more and it doesn’t fit the description of what we were told it would be. It’s certainly missed the original stated target of a film about the Live touring years. It has fallen between two stools. You have to wonder if they got all the footage together and then realised they would need to pad the film out with general Beatles biography stuff. I agree with the Anthology-lite label and as a Bio it was never going to match up to that so why didn’t they realise this and aim for something else?  Also “The Band you know, the story you don’t”  paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif Did anyone learn anything new? To be fair I didn’t know about the Beatles putting their foot down on the segregation issue but I can’t think of anything else.

Here’s also a few things I noted. On the plus side I thought The Royal Command performance footage looked amazing quality. Was it colourised? Some of the colourisation in other segments looked all wrong.. i.e the first US press conference & Washington concert (hair colour looked strange and did they cut John’s cripple routine?). Some footage looked surprisingly bad quality i.e First Ed Sullivan concert, Plaza hotel footage, Liverpool reception (this was awful quality). I really thought there was better footage in existence of these.

Lastly why did they discuss the films AHDN & Help and the artistry of the albums Revolver & Sgt Pepper ? What’s the connection to the touring years?

 

There’s an excellent review of the film on Wogblog and I think this sums it up for me:

“I think Ron Howard went and ruined the film – it would have been better without him. Because what did he bring to the table? Well, for one thing – he removed most of the concert footage and brought in the talking heads. And then he emphasized the North American tours at the cost of all the other concerts the Beatles gave in the rest of the world. That’s no documentary, that’s revisionism!”  http://wogew.blogspot.co.uk/20…..-shea.html

 

EDIT: oops I just realised this review was mentioned on the last page.  

The ‘AHDN ‘ and ‘Help !’ films were to show how maniacal those days were during the touring years. ‘Revolver ‘ presumably to show the levels of creativity despite being on tour, ‘Pepper’ to highlight what happened when they stopped.   

I don’t even remember the Royal Variety Performance featuring.

Into the Sky with Diamonds said

@Mean Mr. Mustard I was of course thrilled to see “Dizzy Miss Lizzy ” in the movie (it’s one of my faves), but considering how much you dislike it, I wonder if it turned you off or whether the live version appealed to you more.

I like ‘Dizzy Miss Lizzy ‘ a lot as a song. I don’t think it fits where it is on ‘Help ‘ where you are listening to a pretty calming album side and then you’re ears are blasted into outer space; take it away from there and its a fabulous rocker.

The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:

Into the Sky with Diamonds, Beatlebug

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

28 September 2016
4.59pm
Avatar
Leppo
London
Hollywood Bowl
Members
Forum Posts: 657
Member Since:
6 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

 I understand your point @Into the Sky with Diamonds about the films and Revolver but by Sgt Pepper they had already given up touring (so not so much The Touring Years).

Pivotal Moments in Beatles History No.118:  Yoko helps herself to one of George's digestives. 

28 September 2016
5.01pm
Avatar
Starr Shine?
Waiting in the sky
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 16105
Member Since:
1 November 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
326sp_Permalink sp_Print

Sgt Pepper was like an epilogue.

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

Brainwashed by RadiantCowbells.

If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.

28 September 2016
5.40pm
Avatar
Leppo
London
Hollywood Bowl
Members
Forum Posts: 657
Member Since:
6 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

meanmistermustard said

The ‘AHDN ‘ and ‘Help !’ films were to show how maniacal those days were during the touring years. ‘Revolver ‘ presumably to show the levels of creativity despite being on tour, ‘Pepper’ to highlight what happened when they stopped.   

Starr Shine? said
Sgt Pepper was like an epilogue.  

So it’s a mini biography then. My point is that instead of “the touring years” shouldn’t they have been honest and said it’s “A mini biography that skips over the early years and ends just around the Beatles creative peak”. Of course they wouldn’t have been that honest but it doesn’t make any sense to make a mini Anthology that’s not as good and not as comprehensive

Pivotal Moments in Beatles History No.118:  Yoko helps herself to one of George's digestives. 

28 September 2016
6.01pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 25177
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

It was going to be the touring years (the focus solely being on the Beatles as a live band) but during the process of making the film the aim of the documentary changed and it became the story of the Beatles changing from a touring band to a studio band which is why we got the films and the albums thrown in. 

The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:

Leppo

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

28 September 2016
6.01pm
Avatar
Starr Shine?
Waiting in the sky
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 16105
Member Since:
1 November 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
329sp_Permalink sp_Print

I think this was more for everyone and not just die-hards so they made it more accessible at the price of less Beatles footage. I went to the movie with a casual fan and they loved it.

The following people thank Starr Shine? for this post:

Leppo, Zig, WeepingAtlasCedars, Beatlebug

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

Brainwashed by RadiantCowbells.

If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.

28 September 2016
6.10pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 25177
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
330sp_Permalink sp_Print

Starr Shine? said
I think this was more for everyone and not just die-hards so they made it more accessible at the price of less Beatles footage. I went to the movie with a casual fan and they loved it.  

It was. The issue a lot of the bigger fans have is that its not what Apple set out to make and instead became a very much slimmed down ‘Anthology’ type documentary looking at a specific period and angle of the Beatles story. 

Apple appear to be far more interested in appealing to the casual fan and capturing new interest in the Beatles than catering to the more dedicated fan who’s been around for a long time. 

The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:

Leppo

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

28 September 2016
6.54pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Thankfully not where I am.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 25177
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
331sp_Permalink sp_Print

Not sure if this has been posted. Gives a good idea of what the film is meant to be however the recollections of Paul and Ringo are nothing new and have been said and written 50,000 times already (which no doubt goes without saying – i turned it off after a while).

And I have to put it out that Paul’s brown hair with the white sideburns makes him look stupid.

 

The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:

Evangeline

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

29 September 2016
4.16am
Avatar
Leppo
London
Hollywood Bowl
Members
Forum Posts: 657
Member Since:
6 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
332sp_Permalink sp_Print

Ringo seems to be getting younger. I’m going to start getting fashion tips from him.

The following people thank Leppo for this post:

Ahhh Girl, Matt Busby, Beatlebug, Midori78, leoc, Shamrock Womlbs

Pivotal Moments in Beatles History No.118:  Yoko helps herself to one of George's digestives. 

29 September 2016
2.58pm
Avatar
Reklo87
London Palladium
Members
Forum Posts: 181
Member Since:
14 March 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
333sp_Permalink sp_Print

I saw the movie last night and I thought it was good.  I enjoyed it and I will buy it on Blu-Ray later when it comes out. Seeing and hearing the Shea Stadium show in a theater setting was cool for me! I didn’t hear much surround sound mixing while I watched the movie so I wonder if the movie would have been the same at home for me.  I was hoping the theater would give it a feel I could not get at home, but it didn’t stand out as a wow factor.

"No Beatles collection is too big or age restricted!"

30 September 2016
12.21am
Avatar
Little Piggy Dragonguy
Nowhere Land
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 4141
Member Since:
5 November 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
334sp_Permalink sp_Print

meanmistermustard said
And I have to put it out that Paul’s brown hair with the white sideburns makes him look stupid.

It does not make him look stupid. It gives him an air of youth while still portraying his age through his face and sideburns. I think he should go all out and grow his hair out gray, but I guess he’s got a complex about his gray hair. 

All living things must abide by the laws of the shape they inhabit 

26 October 2016
10.10am
Avatar
Expert Textpert
In bed.
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5015
Member Since:
18 April 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
335sp_Permalink sp_Print

I’m looking forward to the release of this on Bluray next month.

"If you're ever in the shit, grab my tit.” —Paul McCartney 

26 October 2016
12.06pm
Avatar
Bongo
Somewhere In Time
Candlestick Park
Members
Forum Posts: 1918
Member Since:
28 March 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
336sp_Permalink sp_Print

Reklo87 said 
I enjoyed it and I will buy it on Blu-Ray later when it comes out. Seeing and hearing the Shea Stadium show in a theater setting was cool for me!   I was hoping the theater would give it a feel I could not get at home, but it didn’t stand out as a wow factor.  

Hope you won’t be disappointed that the Shea Concert will not be included with the Blu Ray

  Screen-Shot-2022-10-04-at-7.52.07-PM.png   BEATLES Music gives me Eargasms!  apple01

26 October 2016
12.35pm
Avatar
Pablo Ramon
Some Time in NYC
Hollywood Bowl
Members
Forum Posts: 687
Member Since:
19 October 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
337sp_Permalink sp_Print

Documentary: “a movie or a television or radio program that provides a factual record or report.”

Eight Days A Week is entertaining, and, to be honest, I will watch anything about the Beatles…

But the film (1) alters the original footage with colorization, (2) flies in overdubbed audio that doesn’t even sync up properly with the concert footage, and (3) even within the limited 1964-66 period, omits crucial events and context.

That’s not to say I didn’t enjoy watching it. I did, and there was plenty in it that was new to me, but on the whole it feels compromised.

28 October 2016
5.37pm
Avatar
Von Bontee
496 km NW of the '69 Toronto Rock n Roll Revival
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 5608
Member Since:
14 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
338sp_Permalink sp_Print

Bongo said

meanmistermustard said
If we do get Washington 1964 I want it in b&w, I have no desire for it in colour when it wasn’t.  

Heck, I’d settle for a colored “A Hard Day’s Night “, if it was done correctly! It’s time we moved into the 21st Century!  

Bongo, are you trying to make me burst a blood vessel?!! 

The following people thank Von Bontee for this post:

Beatlebug

Paul: Yeah well… first of all, we’re bringing out a ‘Stamp Out Detroit’ campaign.

         

28 October 2016
5.55pm
Avatar
Starr Shine?
Waiting in the sky
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 16105
Member Since:
1 November 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
339sp_Permalink sp_Print

I think everything should be in color.

The following people thank Starr Shine? for this post:

William Shears Campbell, Little Piggy Dragonguy

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

Brainwashed by RadiantCowbells.

If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.

31 October 2016
12.24pm
Avatar
Reklo87
London Palladium
Members
Forum Posts: 181
Member Since:
14 March 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
340sp_Permalink sp_Print

Bongo said

Hope you won’t be disappointed that the Shea Concert will not be included with the Blu Ray  

I know it won’t be included. But I got to see it once at least.

"No Beatles collection is too big or age restricted!"

Forum Timezone: Europe/London
Most Users Ever Online: 2057
Currently Online: Oakwood
Guest(s) 212
Currently Browsing this Page:
2 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Starr Shine?: 16105
Ron Nasty: 12534
Zig: 9827
50yearslate: 8759
Necko: 8050
AppleScruffJunior: 7585
parlance: 7111
mr. Sun king coming together: 6394
Mr. Kite: 6147
trcanberra: 6064
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 88
Members: 2928
Moderators: 5
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 3
Forums: 44
Topics: 5557
Posts: 384151
Newest Members:
kari, Poseiden, King Stupid, YellowRain, gh0str1der_
Moderators: Joe: 5714, meanmistermustard: 25177, Ahhh Girl: 22686, Beatlebug: 18229, The Hole Got Fixed: 8410
Administrators: Joe: 5714