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@The Blue Meanie I agree. Even if some people are worried that the more negative parts of the Beatles’ story will be glossed over (aka jerkwad Paul 
) they can always watch the original LIB . I’m excited for the new one. 
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50yearslate said
the-blue-meanie I agree. Even if some people are worried that the more negative parts of the Beatles’ story will be glossed over (aka jerkwad Paul) they can always watch the original LIB . I’m excited for the new one.
the beatles need more honest titles. paul isn’t the cute one, he’s jerkwad paul.
and also very cute
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Yes! welcome @The Blue Meanie !!
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Offline He may be a jerkwad… but at least he’s a cute jerkwad 
That actually describes my cat rather well…
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Offline Oh, hush, we’re talking about the LIB period. He wasn’t a jerkwad all the time.
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Offline When was Paul actually a jerk though?
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Kaniffee said
When was Paul actually a jerk though?
Making the others spend all their time working on his songs instead of their own, micromanaging their every move, ignoring poor George’s contributions and limiting his number of songs per album…
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Offline The first one is definitely an exaggeration or at least something they’re all equally guilty of. Of course they wanted to work on their own songs more than the others’ songs.
Micromanaging? You mean have a specific idea in his head of how he wants his song to sound? Yeah how dare he do that.
Ignoring George’s contributions? Probably, but it’s not like John was appreciating them either, so it’s still weird to signal out Paul.
After all it was John who said this after George left:
“Let’s get in Eric. He’s just as good and not such a headache.”
Limiting his songs per album is at much John as it is Paul and had been the arrangement for all the albums not just Let It Be .
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Micromanaging? You mean have a specific idea in his head of how he wants his song to sound? Yeah how dare he do that.
You mean… him being in a band, and that’s how bands are supposed to work… your bandmates bringing something slightly different to the table?
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Kaniffee said
Micromanaging? You mean have a specific idea in his head of how he wants his song to sound? Yeah how dare he do that.
George literally quit the band because of it, so it must have been pretty extreme.
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just some normal bb arguing.
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Micromanaging? You mean have a specific idea in his head of how he wants his song to sound?
More what he wanted them to do, the idea of filming them rehearsing for a live show the others were never in favour of. Paul had a vision of how they could be that tight unit they used to be while John and George were rapidly losing interest in the straitjacket it had become (in their opinion).
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That’s not what Mark Lewinsohn saysThe Blue Meanie said
sorry to be the one to enlighten you on this but… he wasn’t there… “Mark Lewisohn said so”… you’ll fit in just fine around here… welcome…:-)
You’re quite right that he wasn’t there. I’m guessing you weren’t either so forgive me if I favour the opinion of someone who has spent his entire adult life researching the group like nobody before him.
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Billy Rhythm said
That’s not what Mark Lewinsohn saysThe Blue Meanie said
sorry to be the one to enlighten you on this but… he wasn’t there… “Mark Lewisohn said so”… you’ll fit in just fine around here… welcome…:-)
You’re quite right that he wasn’t there. I’m guessing you weren’t either so forgive me if I favour the opinion of someone who has spent his entire adult life researching the group like nobody before him.
good guess… I wasn’t… of course you’re “forgiven” for favouring the opinion of someone else who wasn’t there… me? I choose the recollections of those who were there, that’s a little different than playing “favour the opinion”… there’s only four experts on The Beatles and two of them are no longer with us… there are also plenty of expert witnesses to what went on at the time and Sir Peter Jackson and Mark Lewisohn don’t measure up there either…:-)
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17 December 2012
Offline Though, @Billy Rhythm, Mark Lewisohn worked for them for many years (respectively through EMI, MPL – Paul’s company, and Apple – a lead researcher on Anthology, etc.) and only left Apple to work on his biography of them because he wanted it to be independent, and I’m yet to see any negative criticism, or “You got that wrong!” about the first volume from any of the inner circle, even though he’s overturned much that was considered fact.
They approve him as the Expert on them, but that’s not good enough for you. You like to cling to the story you grew up with, rather than acknowledge – as Paul, George and Ringo have (unfortunately John didn’t long live enough) – that the myth was different, and more complicated, than you’ll give credence to. Even though THEY do.
As John said, “The dream is over.” You often cling to the dream, and won’t let the reality tarnish your rose-tinted view, which they themselves have often admitted much of which is wrong.
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Offline Though, @Billy Rhythm, Mark Lewisohn worked for them for many years (respectively through EMI, MPL – Paul’s company, and Apple – a lead researcher on Anthology, etc.) and only left Apple to work on his biography of them because he wanted it to be independentRon Nasty said
and this was… how many years after ‘Let It Be ‘?…
They approve him as the Expert on themRon Nasty said
that’s quite an assumption from getting the chance to provide Liner Notes for the ‘Anthology’ cassettes…
the myth was different, and more complicated, than you’ll give credence to. Even though THEY doRon Nasty said
it’s no myth that just about everyone who was involved in the sessions (topic at hand) describes it as a ‘Winter of Discontent’ in different syllables… go ahead and “favour opinion” over first hand accounts… Mark Lewisohn is no more an “Expert” than you are… you’re scholars who do fine research… but no “Expert”…:-)
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17 December 2012
Offline ML did far more in their employment than just write “liner notes”. Yes, he wasn’t there, in the room, during their heyday, but they do acknowledge him as an expert on their career.
Remember the old line about “If you remember the ’60s you weren’t really there”?
It’s just silly, in my opinion, to dismiss someone who the surviving members, including George before his death, have always respected, and have never disputed (so far) his take on their history, which often isn’t flattering and often doesn’t stick to what was thought yo have happened, while they have openly disparaged books by those who were there.
I 
the man for helping me understand more what really happened all those years ago.
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