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My favorite part of the movie, really, is their accents. It’s a funny movie, and they have some good songs in there, but for me, their accents and faces are what make the movie so great. George is my favorite in AHDN , I find his parts the funniest. Also, is it just me, or were their accents thicker in AHDN than in Help !, MMT and Let it Be?
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Are there any copies of the script circulating with Paul’s scrapped “solo” scene intact? I’ve always been curious what that’s about…
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
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Shot No. 57
Ext. Street
(PAUL comes down the street looking about him for RINGO. In the street is an old building, the sort of place that is highly favored for TV rehearsals. There is a sign on the door saying “TV Rehearsal Room.” As PAUL draws near, a load of actors and extras, etc. are leaving, they are in costume, they are the ones who earlier had been going to a word rehearsal. When PAUL gets near the entrance he decides to go inside.)
Shot No. 58
Int. Hall
(PAUL enters and wanders about. He reaches a door, pushes it open and looks in. He sees a girl clad in period costume. She is moving around the room and obviously acting. PAUL watches her for a moment and then decides to go in.)
Shot No. 59
Int. Rehearsal Room
(PAUL goes into the room. The girl is in mid-flight. She is very young and lovely and completely engrossed in what she is doing. The room is absolutely empty except for PAUL and herself. She is acting in the manner of an eighteenth-century coquette, or, to be precise, the voice English actresses use when they think they are being true to the costume period… her youth, however, makes it all very charming.)
GIRL: “If I believed you sir, I might do those things and walk those ways only to find myself on Problem’s Path. But I cannot believe you, and all those urgings serve only as a proof that you will lie and lie again to gain your purpose with me.”
(She dances lightly away from an imaginary lover and as she turns she sees PAUL, who is as engrossed in the scene as she was.)
GIRL: (surprised) “Oh!”
PAUL: (enthusiastically) “Well…go ‘head, do the next bit.”
GIRL: “Go away! You’ve spoilt it.”
PAUL: “Oh! Sorry I spoke.”
(He makes an attempt to go. He simply continues to look steadily at the girl, then he smiles at her. She is undecided what to do next.)
GIRL: “Are you supposed to be here?”
PAUL: “I’ve got you worried, haven’t I?”
GIRL: “Of course not. I asked who you are, that’s all.”
PAUL: “No you didn’t, you asked me, Was I supposed to be here?”
GIRL: “I’m warning you, they’ll be back in a minute.”
PAUL: “D’you know something, ‘They’ don’t worry me at all. Any road, I only fancy listening to you, that’s all but if it worries you… well…”
GIRL: “Of course it doesn’t worry me, I can…” (she interrupts herself) “…Who are you?”
PAUL: (smiling cheekily) “Another worrier.”
GIRL: (accusingly) “You’re from Liverpool, aren’t you?”
PAUL: “How’d you guess?”
GIRL: “Oh, it’s the way you talk.”
PAUL: (innocently) “Is it…is it, really?”
GIRL: “Are you pulling my leg?”
PAUL: “Something like that.”
GIRL: “I see. Do you like the play?”
PAUL: “Yeah, I mean, sure, well, I took it at school but I only heard boys and masters saying those lines, like, sounds different on a girl.” (smiles to himself.) “Yeah, it’s gear on a girl.”
GIRL: “Gear?”
PAUL: “Aye, the big hammer, smashing!”
GIRL: “Thank you.”
PAUL: “Don’t mench. Well, why don’t you give us a few more lines, like?”
GIRL: (pouts)
PAUL: “You don’t half slam the door in people’s faces, don’t you? I mean, what about when you’re playing the part, like, hundreds of people’ll see you and…”
GIRL: (cutting in) “I’m not…”
PAUL: “Oh, you’re the understudy sort of thing?”
GIRL: “No.” (aggressively) “I’m a walk-on in a fancy dress scene. I just felt like doing those lines.”
PAUL: “Oh, I see. You are an actress though, aren’t you?”
GIRL: “Yes.”
PAUL: “Aye. I knew you were.”
GIRL: “What’s that mean?”
PAUL: “Well, the way you were spouting, like…” (he imitates her) “‘I don’t believe you, sir…’ and all that. Yeah, it was gear.”
GIRL: (dryly) “The big hammer?”
PAUL: (smiling) “Oh aye, a sledge.”
GIRL: “But the way you did it then sounded so phoney.”
PAUL: “No, I wouldn’t say that… just like an actress… you know.”
(He moves and stands about like an actress)
GIRL: “But that’s not like a real person at all.”
PAUL: “Aye, well, actresses aren’t like real people, are they?”
GIRL: “They ought to be.”
PAUL: “Oh, I don’t know, any road up, they never are, are they?”
GIRL: “What are you?”
PAUL: “I’m in a group… well… there are four of us. We play and sing.”
GIRL: “I bet you don’t sound like real people.”
PAUL: “We do, you know. We sound like us having a ball. It’s fab.”
GIRL: “Is it really fab or are you just saying that to convince yourself?”
PAUL: “What of? Look, I wouldn’t do it unless I was. I’m dead lucky, cos I get paid for doing something I love doing.” (he laughs and with a gesture takes in the whole studio) “…all this and a jam butty too!”
GIRL: “I only enjoy acting for myself. I hate it when other people are let in.”
PAUL: “Why? I mean, which are you, scared or selfish?”
GIRL: “Why selfish?”
PAUL” “Well, you’ve got to have people to taste your treacle toffee.”
(She looks at him in surprise)
PAUL: “No, hang on, I’ve not gone daft. You see, when I was little me mother let me make some treacle toffee one time in our back scullery. When I’d done it she said to me, ‘Go and give some to the other kids.’ So I said I would but I thought to meself, ‘She must think I’m soft.’ Any road, I was eating away there but I wanted somebody else to know how good it was so in the end I wound up giving it all away… but I didn’t mind, cos I’d made the stuff in the first place. Well… that’s why you need other people… an audience… to taste your treacle toffee, like. Eh… does that sound as thick-headed to you as it does to me?”
GIRL: “Not really, but I’m probably not a toffee maker. How would you do those lines of mine?”
PAUL: “Well, look at it this way, I mean, when you come right down to it, that girl, she’s a bit of a scrubber, isn’t she?”
GIRL: “Is she?”
PAUL: “Of course… Look, if she was a Liverpool scrubber…” (PAUL starts acting a Liverpool girl, he mimes about then turns, extending his leg.) “Eh, fella, you want to try pulling the other one, it’s got a full set of bells hanging off it… Y’what?… I know your sort, two cokes and a packet of cheese and onion crisps and suddenly it’s love and we’re stopping in an empty shop doorway. You’re just after me body and y’can’t have it… so there!”
GIRL: (shattered) “And you honestly think that’s what she meant?”
PAUL: “Oh, definitely, it sticks out a mile, she’s trying to get him to marry her but he doesn’t want… well… I don’t reckon any fellas ever wanted to get married. But girls are like that, clever and cunning. You’ve got to laugh.” (He laughs)
GIRL: “Well it’s nice to know you think you’re clever.”
PAUL: (grinning) “And cunning.”
GIRL: “And what do you do about it?”
PAUL: “Me? Oh, I don’t have the time, I’m always running about with the lads… no, we don’t have the time.”
GIRL: “Pity.”
PAUL: (not noticing the invitation) “Aye, it is, but as long as you get by, it’s alright, you know… bash on, happy valley’s when they let you stop. Any road, I’d better get back.”
GIRL: “Yes.”
PAUL: (going) “See you.”
GIRL: “Of course.”
(PAUL stands at the doorway, shrugs, then goes out. After a moment the GIRL starts to act her speech. She is still using her actress voice.)
GIRL: “If I believed you sir. I might do…” (she breaks off and smiles) “…clever and cunning…” (she starts again but this time she delivers the lines in a saucy, teasing manner)
(PAUL pops his head back round the door.)
PAUL: “Treacle toffee…wowee!”
(He disappears and the GIRL laughs delightedly.)
(End of Scene)
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The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
5.25pm
1 December 2009
Offline Just what I was looking for, mja, thanks! (Would’ve been easier just to post a link, wouldn’t it?)
What a shame the footage (presumably) doesn’t exist anymore. When I think of all the filmed-and-scrapped scenes for this and so many other classic movies going back a hundred years…If only they could’ve seen the future…DVD! Blu-Ray!
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
5.50pm
1 December 2009
Offline Hmm, after reading it, I can’t say I care for it much. It’s too wordy and “sincere” – it reminds me of the kind of part that Zeppo would play in a Marx Brothers movie. Maybe it could’ve been trimmed a bit rather than just cut entirely, I dunno. What was Paul’s reaction to his big scene being abandoned, I wonder?
Another (unintended) thing: I can’t help but imagine Paul delivering those actress-deprecating lines to Jane Asher!
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BeatlebugGEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
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17 December 2012
Offline vonbontee said
Hmm, after reading it, I can’t say I care for it much. It’s too wordy and “sincere” – it reminds me of the kind of part that Zeppo would play in a Marx Brothers movie. Maybe it could’ve been trimmed a bit rather than just cut entirely, I dunno. What was Paul’s reaction to his big scene being abandoned, I wonder?Another (unintended) thing: I can’t help but imagine Paul delivering those actress-deprecating lines to Jane Asher!
I agree. I think one of the reasons it was cut was because it slowed the pace of the film. Regarding your link point, wouldn’t really have worked – I cut and pasted it from a copy of the complete script I have on my laptop.
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The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966
10.18pm
21 November 2012
Offline Thanks for posting! Wow, never seen that, and I was always so curious.
I agree with vonbontee, I don’t really care for it either. It seems rather boring, especially compared to the other three’s bits. It has too much words and it doesn’t seem like it’s very funny.
I wish there was some dvd with deleted scenes from all the films.
And now I really feel like watching AHDN .
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1 December 2009
Offline Regarding your link point, wouldn’t really have worked – I cut and pasted it from a copy of the complete script I have on my laptop.
Ah, I see. I’m just glad you didn’t have to type it all out yourself!
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
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8 November 2012
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The Examiner posted excerpts from Roger Ebert’s reviews of AHDN and YS in their obituary.
“It was clear from the outset that ‘A Hard Day’s Night ‘ was in a different category from the rock musicals that had starred Elvis and his imitators,” he wrote in his book “Roger Ebert: The Great Movies.” “It was smart, it was irreverent, it didn’t take itself seriously, and it was shot and edited by Richard Lester in an electrifying black-and-white semi-documentary style that seemed to follow the boys during a day in their lives.”
and
“Unfortunately, most animated cartoon makers are content to reproduce the real world. So there’s a recognizable jungle in ‘The Jungle Book,’ and Tom and Jerry chase each other through an unmistakable living room,” he wrote. “The beauty of ‘Yellow Submarine ‘ is that it casts this objective universe aside and sails in a world of pure fantasy. The strange creatures and designs that inhabit Pepperland are simply a delight to the eye.”
Huge loss to the film community today. :’-(
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8 November 2012
Offline Someone posted Ebert’s poignant tribute to John written the day after his death on another board I’m on, so I wanted to share the link.
To keep this on topic, here’s what he wrote about AHDN in the tribute:
That summer of 1964, I went to see the movie “A Hard Day’s Night.” Perhaps because it came at the right moment in my life, or perhaps just because it was such a liberating film, so free and filled with joy and music, it moved me as few films ever have. Yes, it truly did — that formless, anarchic black-and-white movie with the Beatles running around in an empty lot, and Ringo going off to walk by himself, and John and George and Paul racing through a train and singing in the wire-mesh baggage compartment while hundreds of little girls screamed and squealed.
The concert footage from “A Hard Day’s Night” caught better than anything else I’ve ever seen the mesmerizing mass effect of the Beatles. And there is one young girl in that film I will never forget. She is blond, she is perhaps 13, she has tears running down her cheeks, she is screaming the name of a Beatle over and over again, hopelessly crying out herpassion. To see the scene is to smile: It is, the instant crush of an adolescent fan. But the innocence of it, its clean lines of emotion stand for me as an image of that time.
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1 December 2009
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The Examiner posted excerpts from Robert Ebert’s reviews of AHDN and YS in their obituary.
“It was clear from the outset that ‘A Hard Day’s Night ‘ was in a different category from the rock musicals that had starred Elvis and his imitators,” he wrote in his book “Roger Ebert: The Great Movies.” “It was smart, it was irreverent, it didn’t take itself seriously, and it was shot and edited by Richard Lester in an electrifying black-and-white semi-documentary style that seemed to follow the boys during a day in their lives.”
and
“Unfortunately, most animated cartoon makers are content to reproduce the real world. So there’s a recognizable jungle in ‘The Jungle Book,’ and Tom and Jerry chase each other through an unmistakable living room,” he wrote. “The beauty of ‘Yellow Submarine ‘ is that it casts this objective universe aside and sails in a world of pure fantasy. The strange creatures and designs that inhabit Pepperland are simply a delight to the eye.”
Huge loss to the film community today. :’-(
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Yeah, literary community too. (It’s Roger, not Robert, obviously.) RIP, second-greatest-guy-born-the-same-day-as-Paul-McCartney
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
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Does anybody know which card game they play?
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Not sure what the game is – I do get a kick out the ‘Liverpool shuffle’ in that same scene.
To the fountain of perpetual mirth, let it roll for all its worth. And all the children boogie.
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Offline MotherNaturesDaughter said
A Hard Day’s Night is personally my favorite of all their movies. I especially like when they’re getting ready for the show I think it is. So many funny little things happen in that scene. Like Paul with the hairdryer, and John cutting the tape. Great scene.
And John sniffing the coke lookalike bottle – priceless.
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Offline An extract from an article on the BBC regarding an upcoming display of previously unseen photographs taken by Hollywood photographer George Douglas who died aged 88 in 2007:
Mr Bamber added that Douglas turned down The Beatles, who asked him to be their photographer on the set of A Hard Day’s Night .
“Paul McCartney had been impressed by George’s portraits of his then-girlfriend Jane Asher; but two weeks at the Twickenham Studios besieged by screaming teenagers was enough to persuade George that he was not cut out for pop photography
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8 November 2012
Offline Film School Rejects article: How ‘A Hard Day’s Night’ Saved the Rock ‘N’ Roll Movie
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1 May 2011
Offline Copied from the News thread as it’s relevant here too
Examiner reports on the airing of a 30 second tape of the bit of music Ringo blasts out of his transistor radio in AHDN‘ and is commonly referred to as ‘Train Music’. There has always been discussions on whether or not it’s the Beatles playing and this article goes in to that a little. The beatlesbible.com forum gets a mention and link too (we should start documenting all the news articles that refer back to this site).
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Offline meanmistermustard said
Copied from the News thread as it’s relevant here too
Examiner reports on the airing of a 30 second tape of the bit of music Ringo blasts out of his transistor radio in AHDN‘ and is commonly referred to as ‘Train Music’. There has always been discussions on whether or not it’s the Beatles playing and this article goes in to that a little. The beatlesbible.com forum gets a mention and link too (we should start documenting all the news articles that refer back to this site).
I’m astonished that people are able to track down who did the music. And I’m amazed that they like the Beatles Bible here too!
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3.54pm
8 November 2012
Offline meanmistermustard said
Copied from the News thread as it’s relevant here too
Examiner reports on the airing of a 30 second tape of the bit of music Ringo blasts out of his transistor radio in AHDN‘ and is commonly referred to as ‘Train Music’. There has always been discussions on whether or not it’s the Beatles playing and this article goes in to that a little. The beatlesbible.com forum gets a mention and link too (we should start documenting all the news articles that refer back to this site).
A site that posts Beatles radios shows to post Breakfast with the Beatles (the show that aired Train Music) finally posted this one. The download seems to be down (maybe too many hits) and I’ve messaged the site about it. But maybe others will have more luck.
I don’t know what time it aired, but here’s the playlist, so that’ll give you some idea (probably the 3rd hour). Incidentally, that was my favorite episode of Breakfast with the Beatles so far in terms of the mix of favorite songs they played, so I was planning on downloading it anyway.
Once the link seems to be stable, I’ll x-post to the news thread.
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