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DrBeatle said
Just saw a tweet from Beatles Examiner that there will be a UK broadcast. Funny, most of my UK friends have already watched it via “other” methods
I haven’t so will be glad its been shown. Can walk it on a proper tv instead of a youtube vid.
I haven’t seen Katy’s performance; did she change the subject of the song to be male? And folk are complaining? Dear God , get a life! It was happening with Beatles songs back in the 60’s. The day folk place them on such a high podium that changing “he” to “she” is some sort of blasphemy is the day they have went far too loopy and need help mentally. Its a song. Get over it over. If they change whole lines of lyrics then i might join in (see Paul messing up Here, There And Everywhere on Broad Street) but something so meaningless. . .
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8.22pm
21 November 2012
Offline Agree with MMM. It’s ridiculous, just get over yourselves already.
It’s just the gender. There’s only a single letter that changes, surely that can’t make you hate her version entirely?
Oh great, there’s a Dutch channel airing it too. NTR. Which sounds odd to me.
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Though, please, don’t anybody post Tiffany’s 1980s I Saw Him Standing There!
Here’s two that were featured in BBC Radio’s 1966 The Lennon and McCartney Songbook (built around an interview with John and Paul, and their view of covers, Mrs Higgins, and Martha – a puppy at the time).
(weird that they changed the title with that one but not the words!)
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1 November 2013
Offline I phrased that absolutely horribly.
The only thing that bugs me about changed pronouns isn’t the pronoun part, it’s the changed parts. I mean, if they can make the new pronoun work in the song, then fantastic. It’s the same for me as if she had changed any other word in Yesterday to a different word.
For me, the lyrics serve the music, so when the word “girl” replaces the word “man” it sounds weird and off rhythm because of the hard “g” at the beginning of girl. The change from “she” to “he” worked fine for me because they’re very similar words. That’s the only problem. I’d have the exact same problem if she changed it from “love” to “like” because of the hard k in like.
That’s all. Not complaining about pronouns, just words.
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Offline IveJustSeenAFaceo said
That’s all. Not complaining about pronouns, just words.
exactly. i’m glad i read all the posts before i replied to that one. you explained it probably much better, or at least clearer, than i probably would have.
This probably won’t need a new thread, because I don’t expect many replies, but i’ve wanted to ask do you (those who know any German) think of the translations of Ich Liebe Dich and Sie Liebt Dich ? I think Sie Leibt Dich is a much better translation in terms of using idioms. I mean I took 3 years of German, twice lol, and then squeaked through 1 semester of German litt. 30 years ago, but I learned the grammar really well, just not die Vokab, but those songs the words are pretty simple).
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1 November 2013
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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
That’s all. Not complaining about pronouns, just words.
exactly. i’m glad i read all the posts before i replied to that one. you explained it probably much better, or at least clearer, than i probably would have.
This probably won’t need a new thread, because I don’t expect many replies, but i’ve wanted to ask do you (those who know any German) think of the translations of Ich Liebe Dich and Sie Liebt Dich ? I think Sie Leibt Dich is a much better translation in terms of using idioms. I mean I took 3 years of German, twice lol, and then squeaked through 1 semester of German litt. 30 years ago, but I learned the grammar really well, just not die Vokab, but those songs the words are pretty simple).
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That’s why I’ve never liked the German versions. The rhythm is screwed up by the different words. Somehow it’s actually worse when they change just one word. George’s live In My Life is the best (and by best, I mean worst) example of this. The “god” instead of “you” doesn’t fit.
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3 May 2012
Offline I’m glad this’ll be aired here. I haven’t yet seen it in full, and I hate watching stuff of anything but the tv.
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3.09pm
8 November 2012
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This probably won’t need a new thread, because I don’t expect many replies, but i’ve wanted to ask do you (those who know any German) think of the translations of Ich Liebe Dich and Sie Liebt Dich ?
I sent them to a German classmate a year ago. He didn’t go into detail, but he thought their accents were hilarious.
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Offline Julian Lennon on why he skipped the show
The world recently celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Beatles‘ first trip to America with a series of all-star affairs that included appearances from younger artists as well as former Beatles Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr — and extended family members Yoko Ono, Sean Lennon, and Olivia and Dhani Harrison. Conspicuously absent from the crowd was Julian Lennon, who discussed the reasons for his no-show during a recent interview.“To me, the last thing I wanted to do was stand in the audience with everybody else,” Lennon told Brooklyn Vegan, adding he had no interest in “clapping my hands and being filmed in front of millions while watching a Beatles karaoke session.”
As it happened, Lennon wasn’t even in the country when it all went down — instead, his charity work for the White Feather Foundation took him to Africa, where he’s been trying to advance a number of initiatives on behalf of groups like Millennium Villages. Of particular importance to Lennon right now is his partnership with Charity: Water, which seeks to restore and increase clean water availability for people living without reliable access.
Even if he’d been available, Lennon insisted that he’d rather enjoy the band’s classic records anyway. “Give me the originals any day. I’ll listen or watch the originals any day, and that’s my cup of tea,” he explained. “That’s why I decided that I much more preferred to be in a state of reflection and appreciation and doing something much more subtle and much more heartfelt, in my mind, than the glitz and the glam of those kind of shows.”
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parlance said
Yeah, he’s backtracked since the original FB comments. Licking his wounds, I guess.parlance
I wish he wouldn’t do that…he’s totally in his rights and I’ve got to say that I agree with him. A shame that so many Cult of Lennon worshippers who love all things John seem to have no time for Julian.
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4.08pm
8 November 2012
Offline DrBeatle said
parlance said
Yeah, he’s backtracked since the original FB comments. Licking his wounds, I guess.parlance
I wish he wouldn’t do that…he’s totally in his rights and I’ve got to say that I agree with him. A shame that so many Cult of Lennon worshippers who love all things John seem to have no time for Julian.
I’m sorry to say that some of the detractors are Paul fans who still bear a grudge against him for the (now-deleted) Facebook rant posted when Paul didn’t invite him to his wedding to Nancy.
It is very weird and unfortunate to me that Julian is so often dismissed. I was a teen when “Valotte” came out, and it’s still one of my favorite songs of that decade. And he continues to do many positive things in the name of the Beatles legacy, like the White Feather Foundation and curating that photo exhibit (which I’m hoping to get to this weekend).
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29 November 2012
Offline That’s true, a lot of Paul fans give him stick, which is silly because they’ve both gone on record acknowledging that Paul meant to invite him and whoever was in charge of sending those out let it slip through the cracks. As far as I know, they patched it up. And even if not, much as I love Paul, I’d have to side with Jules on that especially give how close he and Paul have been for his whole life.
Julian and Cyn have been written out of Beatles history for too long, or just treated as collateral damage and I say good for him fighting against that, and I’m not just saying that because I’m not a Yoko fan at all. It’s just wrong.
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4.31pm
8 November 2012
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That’s true, a lot of Paul fans give him stick, which is silly because they’ve both gone on record acknowledging that Paul meant to invite him and whoever was in charge of sending those out let it slip through the cracks. As far as I know, they patched it up. And even if not, much as I love Paul, I’d have to side with Jules on that especially give how close he and Paul have been for his whole life.
I didn’t know that. Do you happen to have a link? I believe you, just curious.
Julian and Cyn have been written out of Beatles history for too long, or just treated as collateral damage and I say good for him fighting against that, and I’m not just saying that because I’m not a Yoko fan at all. It’s just wrong.
I agree. 
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29 November 2012
Offline parlance said
DrBeatle said
That’s true, a lot of Paul fans give him stick, which is silly because they’ve both gone on record acknowledging that Paul meant to invite him and whoever was in charge of sending those out let it slip through the cracks. As far as I know, they patched it up. And even if not, much as I love Paul, I’d have to side with Jules on that especially give how close he and Paul have been for his whole life.
I didn’t know that. Do you happen to have a link? I believe you, just curious.
Julian and Cyn have been written out of Beatles history for too long, or just treated as collateral damage and I say good for him fighting against that, and I’m not just saying that because I’m not a Yoko fan at all. It’s just wrong.
I agree.
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http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/s…..41541.html
http://www.examiner.com/articl…..-mccartney
(the bit about Paul and the wedding mix-up is at the end of that second link)
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8 November 2012
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http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/s…..41541.html
http://www.examiner.com/articl…..-mccartney
(the bit about Paul and the wedding mix-up is at the end of that second link)
Thanks for those.
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17 December 2012
Offline There is also the bit that, regarding this event, the more critical comments were replies on FB. There is still this bit where people choose to say things on Twitter and FB that they avoid in formal interview settings, thinking that somehow it won’t be noticed.
While Julian has been critical on certain things that have happened before, I don’t think he really wanted to sound too critical publicly about this event, but said a few things away from interviews that were not exactly “off the record”.
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29 November 2012
Offline Going totally on another tangent, but it saddened me how muted the crowd response was to Eric Idle’s Rutles bit..I love the Rutles and the Beatles themselves did, too. A shame just about no one there in the crowd seemed to know what it was all about, or even who Eric Idle was. They probably thought “who is this weird Englishman and what’s he going on about?”
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5.28pm
8 November 2012
Offline DrBeatle said
Going totally on another tangent, but it saddened me how muted the crowd response was to Eric Idle’s Rutles bit..I love the Rutles and the Beatles themselves did, too. A shame just about no one there in the crowd seemed to know what it was all about, or even who Eric Idle was. They probably thought “who is this weird Englishman and what’s he going on about?”
Thanks for bringing that up, I thought that reaction was so odd! And I know the crowd was a mix, because I’ve since come across at least six people who were seatfillers (really wish I’d known it was that easy) and they were encouraging people of all ages to apply.
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29 November 2012
Offline parlance said
DrBeatle said
Going totally on another tangent, but it saddened me how muted the crowd response was to Eric Idle’s Rutles bit..I love the Rutles and the Beatles themselves did, too. A shame just about no one there in the crowd seemed to know what it was all about, or even who Eric Idle was. They probably thought “who is this weird Englishman and what’s he going on about?”Thanks for bringing that up, I thought that reaction was so odd! And I know the crowd was a mix, because I’ve since come across at least six people who were seatfillers (really wish I’d known it was that easy) and they were encouraging people of all ages to apply.
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Yeah, I’d imagine real fans like Grohl and Joe Walsh and Jeff Lynne and so on would’ve know what it was all about, but Katy Perry or Imagine Dragons or Maroon 5 probably had no clue. And I suspect most of the phony Hollywood celebrities in attendance had no clue either. Too bad! Shame you weren’t able to get into that filming, parlance!
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