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The Love You Make by Peter Brown and Steven Gaines
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Do you think the taped interviews used for this book will be made available to the public? https://www.billboard.com/arti…..s-released

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Hope so – really enjoyed the book and big inspiration for ITSWD. (I was coincidentally interviewed by S. Gaines many years ago. I would have liked to interview him!)

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I just read this book last month and I didn’t really like it that much. I don’t know if it was the tone that Brown used in the writing or what but it just read like an impersonal, gossipy tabloid. I know that the Beatles’ personal lives were far from perfect, but the whole thing is just so….harsh. It seemed interesting when I first picked it up, but upon reading it I was immediately turned off, especially at the parts where he (or the guy who helped him write it) said: “Seen here for the first time.” It just felt a little too cold for a Beatles book. And it turns out there are tons and tons of unproven facts and just straight inaccuracies! When I read it, I was appalled by the things that Brown (or the guy who helped write it) managed to get incorrect. I don’t have the book on me now, but I’ll dig up examples when I’m home– I annotated a lot. 

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I just read this book last month and I didn’t really like it that much. I don’t know if it was the tone that Brown used in the writing or what but it just read like an impersonal, gossipy tabloid. I know that the Beatles’ personal lives were far from perfect, but the whole thing is just so….harsh. It seemed interesting when I first picked it up, but upon reading it I was immediately turned off, especially at the parts where he (or the guy who helped him write it) said: “Seen here for the first time.” It just felt a little too cold for a Beatles book. And it turns out there are tons and tons of unproven facts and just straight inaccuracies! When I read it, I was appalled by the things that Brown (or the guy who helped write it) managed to get incorrect. I don’t have the book on me now, but I’ll dig up examples when I’m home– I annotated a lot. 

  

Get thrown away like a piece of trash has an effect on how you see people. However co-author Gaines is certainly just as complicate. He has a book on the Beach Boys that’s even worse. 

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Do you think the taped interviews used for this book will be made available to the public? https://www.billboard.com/arti…..s-released

  

Well, RN just brought to my attention that we are at least getting the transcription of those interviews in the new book All You Need Is Love: An Oral History of The Beatles.

All You Need Is Love  is a groundbreaking oral history of the one of the most enduring musical acts of all time. The material is comprised of intimate interviews with Paul McCartney , Yoko Ono, George Harrison , Ringo Starr , their families, friends and business associates that were conducted by Beatles intimate Peter Brown and author Steven Gaines in 1980-1981 during the preparation of their international bestseller, The Love You Make, which spent four months on the New York Times bestseller list in 1983 and remains the biggest selling biography worldwide about the Beatles

Only a small portion of the contents of these transcribed interviews have ever been revealed. The interviews are unique and candid. The information, stories, and experiences, and the authority of the people who relate to them, have historic value. No collection like this can ever be assembled again.

In addition to interviews with Paul, Yoko, Ringo and George, Brown and Gaines also include interviews from ex-wives Cynthia Lennon, Pattie Harrison Clapton, and Maureen Starkey, as well as the major social and business figures of the Beatles’ inner circle. Among other sought-after information the interviews contribute definitively as to why the Beatles broke up.

I pre-ordered my copy (using Joe’s link, of course).

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Peter Brown consulted Paul & Linda before working w/Stephen Gaines on The Love You Make. Then I read that they burned the copies that Brown sent to them.  I cannot see anything that was said about either of them that would cause them to destroy the book.  Peter had things to say about John and Yoko that were hardly complimentary.  Why then, would Paul and Linda take such offence?

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I haven’t read the book, but Wikipedia implies an answer to your question:

Brown presents an at-times unflattering picture of the individual Beatles;[7] he depicts Lennon as lacking in kindness, belittles George Harrison‘s quest for spiritual enlightenment, and portrays Paul McCartney as self-serving and insincere.[8] In his overview of the most popular books about the group, in The Rough Guide to the Beatles, Chris Ingham writes that Brown’s account focuses on “the seamier side of The Beatles’ story” and was viewed as being “nothing short of betrayal” by the surviving former band members.[9]

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The burning is mentioned in posts 5 and 39 of this thread.

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Paul talks about it here, I think:

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Says he invited Peter to his house, showed him the kids, promised the book was ok, promised He’d let Paul read it first…and ripped him off.

If thats true, I’ll pass on this one. Factual or not. No one betrays my hero and gets off easy with me! blue-meanie

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Re: Peter Brown’s betrayal of Paul, I wonder what Paul meant in this interview by:

“What you can really do is just say ‘well, I’m not talking to him again’. You know, it’s not really sort of much revenge, really. You’d like to get a couple of glasses of orange juice or something one morning…”

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I didn’t know anything about Peter Brown before 2 weeks ago.  Initially, what I learned was “Peter Brown, an old friend of the Beatles, betrayed Paul and Paul resented it.  Case closed.”  But then I read a quote from Peter Brown himself, something about how Paul “makes up a lot of stuff about his history” to paraphrase.  Though I’m madly in love with Paul’s music, I’ve always wondered about whether he has a “darker side”, so I think I may well give Peter Brown’s book a chance to see if it seems plausible.

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I didn’t know anything about Peter Brown before 2 weeks ago.  Initially, what I learned was “Peter Brown, an old friend of the Beatles, betrayed Paul and Paul resented it.  Case closed.”  But then I read a quote from Peter Brown himself, something about how Paul “makes up a lot of stuff about his history” to paraphrase.  Though I’m madly in love with Paul’s music, I’ve always wondered about whether he has a “darker side”, so I think I may well give Peter Brown’s book a chance to see if it seems plausible.  

“Peter Brown called to say “You can make it okay: You can get married in Gibraltar near Spain!”

Sadly,, Peter seems like a lot of the others in John and Yoko’s circle as well as Ex-Apple employees. In it for the clout. Eliot Mintz, Fred Seaman, May Pang – Paul Goresh was probably the only one of them that ended up just a genuine friend to John.

It doesn’t surprise me that Peter betrayed Paul.

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Sea Belt said

I didn’t know anything about Peter Brown before 2 weeks ago.  Initially, what I learned was “Peter Brown, an old friend of the Beatles, betrayed Paul and Paul resented it.  Case closed.”  But then I read a quote from Peter Brown himself, something about how Paul “makes up a lot of stuff about his history” to paraphrase.  Though I’m madly in love with Paul’s music, I’ve always wondered about whether he has a “darker side”, so I think I may well give Peter Brown’s book a chance to see if it seems plausible.  

“Peter Brown called to say “You can make it okay: You can get married in Gibraltar near Spain!”

Sadly,, Peter seems like a lot of the others in John and Yoko’s circle as well as Ex-Apple employees. In it for the clout. Eliot Mintz, Fred Seaman, May Pang – Paul Goresh was probably the only one of them that ended up just a genuine friend to John.

It doesn’t surprise me that Peter betrayed Paul.

  

The thing is, Peter could have betrayed Paul, but also still be correct about certain unflattering details about Paul.

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Sea Belt said

The thing is, Peter could have betrayed Paul, but also still be correct about certain unflattering details about Paul.  

If Paul has any legit skeletons in his closet, I haven’t heard of them beyond being a perfectionist and for making the Beatles as a brand seem too “Family friendly” (something i’ve been critical of) But i’ve grown to realize that the reason for that is because that’s how he, in hindsight, genuinely thinks of The Beatles. He loves the entire thing, and wants to preserve it as a happy memory. If Peter’s book got in the way of that, I wouldn’t blame Paul for being cross.

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