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AppleScruffJunior said, “I have never read about somebody so anti-Yoko.”

I think Bramwell’s ‘anti-Yoko’ stand is fully justified considering what he personally witnessed.

For example, on Page 305 he does say, “I don’t know how she snowed him [Lennon] so totally” but he then goes on to say, “Yoko demanded service like we were her own personal servants.”

So really can’t blame the guy.

The cover of the book is perplexing: there are ‘vintage’ pictures of John, George and Ringo along with a clearly more recent picture of Paul. Couldn’t find a picture of Paul from the same era? DrBeatle, you should ask Bramwell about that!

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I actually own next to none Beatles books, I just get them from the library. The only one I own is the Yellow Submarine  picture book/novelisation.

One I got from the library that I thoroughly enjoyed was Here, There, and Everywhere by Geoff Emerick. I thought it was great. I’m sure you’ve all read it, but I’ve read some not so good reviews, and I just wanted to say I really liked it. I also like the Top 100 book written by Michael Lewis and Spignessi (?), I think. Can’t remember the name.   

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The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions, Mark Lewisohn 

The Complete Beatles Chronicle, Mark Lewisohn

Revolution In The Head – The Beatles Records And The Sixties, Ian MacDonald

A Day In The Life – The Music And Artistry Of The Beatles, Mark Hertsgaard

The Walrus Was Paul – The Great Beatle Death Clues, R. Gary Patterson 

Anthology, The Beatles

Mojo: The Beatles – Ten Years That Shook The World

The Mammoth Book Of The Beatles

All These Years – Tune In Extended Edition, Mark Lewisohn

In His Own Write & A Spaniard In The Works, John Lennon

Lennon Remembers, Jann S. Wenner

Last Interview – All We Are Saying – John Lennon & Yoko Ono, David Sheff

Lennon – The Definitive Biography, Ray Coleman 

John Lennon , Philip Norman

Lennon, Tim Riley

Paul McCartey – Many Years From Now, Barry Miles

FAB: The Life Of Paul McCartney , Howard Sounes

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I am now reading the fairly new Beatles’ book “All The Songs.” I was the first person to check it out from my local library, and it is full of fun new facts. For instance, Johnnie Scott, the flute player on “You’ve Got To Hide Your Love Away ,” was paid the ridiculous sum of £6 ($9 US) for his session work! And the string players on “Eleanor Rigby ” were paid £5 (7.50 US)!!! And then, according to Geoff Emerick, while recording “Yellow Submarine ,” they resorted to using existing sound effects records for the brass band, saving the expense of hiring brass session musicians! I realize that £5 and £6 pounds must have been the going rate back then in the sixties, but it still strikes me as funny that the Abbey Road people would be involved in making such classic music, and still be concerned about “chump change” like that. (I hope the highly skilled session players at least got their parking validated while working at the studio.) ;-)

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I know how back in the day things were cheaper. I know, my grandma always tells me an ice cream used to be a few cents, and now it’s a few euro’s. But 6 pounds for session work sounds ridiculous!

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Thinking back to before all the inflation in the past 40, 50 years, 6 pounds for session work sounds okay. These guys weren’t part of a succesful band, though there are many that later became famous in the industry (Page is just one I can think of off the top of my head) – they were ”just” people who knew how to play an instrument. Or was/is their wage considered low to everyone else?

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Using an inflation calculator site (admittedly using date for 2012), £6 in 1965 would be equivalent to £98.35 last year. Not too bad for a few hours work.

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Lewisohn has a pound in 1962 worth around £18.45 today in Tune In. Though obviously as these dates are later the ’60s, the sum would vary one way or the other. It would their session musicians were getting, in today’s money, around about £100 for a session, which would usually be around three hours. Another comparison that can be made, the average weekly wage in 1964 (closest I could find) was £14, so nearly half the average weekly wage for a few hours work doesn’t seem unreasonable.

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mja6758 said
Lewisohn has a pound in 1962 worth around £18.45 today…

In an attempt to understand this rate of inflation, I went down to Penny Lane , and grabbed a seat next to the banker at the barber shop. While he was waiting for a trim, I gave him Lewisohn’s figures, and he began crunching the numbers. According to an adjusted rate of 18.45, Mean Mister Mustard in 2013 would have to stuff 184.5 bob up his nose. The singer in “Maggie Mae ” would now be looking at a take-home pay of around £40. Then, before the banker could explain further, we got interrupted by the fireman, who rushed in from the pouring rain. Yeah, as you can imagine… it was very strange.

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mja6758 said
Lewisohn has a pound in 1962 worth around £18.45 today in Tune In. Though obviously as these dates are later the ’60s, the sum would vary one way or the other. It would their session musicians were getting, in today’s money, around about £100 for a session, which would usually be around three hours. Another comparison that can be made, the average weekly wage in 1964 (closest I could find) was £14, so nearly half the average weekly wage for a few hours work doesn’t seem unreasonable.

Out of curiosity, was the pound valued differently in the pre-decimal (ie pre-1971) era? Or was the difference simply how it was split up?

 

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Bungalow Bob said

mja6758 said
Lewisohn has a pound in 1962 worth around £18.45 today…

In an attempt to understand this rate of inflation, I went down to Penny Lane , and grabbed a seat next to the banker at the barber shop. While he was waiting for a trim, I gave him Lewisohn’s figures, and he began crunching the numbers. According to an adjusted rate of 18.45, Mean Mister Mustard in 2013 would have to stuff 184.5 bob up his nose. The singer in “Maggie Mae ” would now be looking at a take-home pay of around £40. Then, before the banker could explain further, we got interrupted by the fireman, who rushed in from the pouring rain. Yeah, as you can imagine… it was very strange.

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If the singer of Maggie Mae was taking home £40 a week, I’d have thought that was would barely cover the cost of her ‘services’, let alone food, heating, shelter… The average today is around £450.

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If the singer of Maggie Mae was taking home £40 a week, I’d have thought that was would barely cover the cost of her ‘services’, let alone food, heating, shelter… The average today is around £450.

The banker, perhaps distracted by the soaking-wet fireman, made an erroneous assumption. He heard that the “Maggie Mae ” narrator boasted a take-home pay of 2-pound-ten, and multiplied that by the inflation rate of 18.75… not taking into account when all the action was taking place on Liverpool’s Lime Street. It could have been as early as 1830, or possibly the 1950s, but the banker mistakenly based his calculations on the year 1962. After he left the barbershop, the fireman pointed out that the foolish banker doesn’t even wear a mac in the pouring rain. The barber then mumbled “No wonder little children laugh at him behind his back.”

In an attempt to steer this thread back to its subject, here’s what I read last night in the Beatles’ book “All The Songs:” As “Bungalow Bill” fades out and segues into “While My Guitar Gently Weeps ,” it is John Lennon that shouts “Ey up!” in his best Scouse accent. “Ey up” means “What’s up?” I always thought that it was George that shouted that. Non-Beatle fans will smack their heads and exclaim “Why is that important!?!” Well… It just is.

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If the singer of Maggie Mae was taking home £40 a week, I’d have thought that was would barely cover the cost of her ‘services’, let alone food, heating, shelter… The average today is around £450.

The banker, perhaps distracted by the soaking-wet fireman, made an erroneous assumption. He heard that the “Maggie Mae ” narrator boasted a take-home pay of 2-pound-ten, and multiplied that by the inflation rate of 18.75… not taking into account when all the action was taking place on Liverpool’s Lime Street. It could have been as early as 1830, or possibly the 1950s, but the banker mistakenly based his calculations on the year 1962. After he left the barbershop, the fireman pointed out that the foolish banker doesn’t even wear a mac in the pouring rain. The barber then mumbled “No wonder little children laugh at him behind his back.”

In an attempt to steer this thread back to its subject, here’s what I read last night in the Beatles’ book “All The Songs:” As “Bungalow Bill” fades out and segues into “While My Guitar Gently Weeps ,” it is John Lennon that shouts “Ey up!” in his best Scouse accent. “Ey up” means “What’s up?” I always thought that it was George that shouted that. Non-Beatle fans will smack their heads and exclaim “Why is that important!?!” Well… It just is.

I’ve always taken John was meaning it as a kind of look out (i picture it in my head as a Yorkshire man would say “ey up” to another person when someone was coming down the road and they wanted him/her to gather their wits – am i making sense? surely someone can explain what i mean better – talk about rambling gibberish.); considering the quietness of the Bungalow Bill ending, a way of getting the listeners attention to whats next. Its a brilliant way of linking the two songs as neither Bungalow Bill  or WMGGW are as good without John’s call.

“Ey up” can mean a number of things, wiktionary lists a few as as 

(dialectal) Hello
(dialectal) How are you?
(dialectal) Look at that!, take notice of that!
(dialectal) Don’t do that; a warning.
(dialectal) What is that?

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^ Yeah, that’s what I assumed it meant. Like, I dunno, ”pay attention” or something similar. I’m no good at explaining things like this.

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Yes, I know it isn’t a book, but I am so happy to have finally found something! My sister bought the Rolling Stone’s Collectors Edition, Paul McCartney for me today. It was a belated New Year’s gift and cost a fortune over here (can’t help but feel a bit guilty). I read it in one breath.

Hopefully I will come back to this thread to write about some book I bought one day.

 

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I got a few for Christmas, so now I have The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions, The Bob Spitz biography, You Never Give Me Your Money , and a rather uninformative book from the dollar store, simply titled “The Beatles” and no author on the front cover. It has nice pictures though.

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The ‘Story of Pop’ version of The Beatles Story – only 60p and an all-time classic :)

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My brother visited over Christmas and brought down a couple of boxes of my old junk that had been at my mother’s place since around 1990.  I just got around to seeing what is in them.  Among them I found some quirky paperbacks that I totally forgot I ever had:

1)  The John Lennon Story by John Swenson, 1981

2)  The Longest Cocktail Party by Richard DiLello, 1974

3)  The Lennon Tapes by Andy Peebles, 1981

4)  The Beatles in Help by Al Hine, 1965.  This is a novelisation – I can’t think of many film novelisations which would be less exciting than this one :)

From their condition it looks like I had scoured one of the local 2nd-hand bookshops in around 1982.  The Help book cost me 20c – maybe that was a week’s pay back then??

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My brother visited over Christmas and brought down a couple of boxes of my old junk that had been at my mother’s place since around 1990.  I just got around to seeing what is in them.  Among them I found some quirky paperbacks that I totally forgot I ever had:

1)  The John Lennon Story by John Swenson, 1981

2)  The Longest Cocktail Party by Richard DiLello, 1974

3)  The Lennon Tapes by Andy Peebles, 1981

4)  The Beatles in Help by Al Hine, 1965.  This is a novelisation – I can’t think of many film novelisations which would be less exciting than this one :)

From their condition it looks like I had scoured one of the local 2nd-hand bookshops in around 1982.  The Help book cost me 20c – maybe that was a week’s pay back then??

So, are the covers in good enough condition for ya? ahdn_paul_02a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

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