7.18pm
20 January 2016
I was gonna make a top 50 list, but I’m a little tired right now, so here’s a top 15. Personal preferences, of course.
- To Pimp A Butterfly (2015) by Kendrick Lamar
- Greatest Hits (1998) by Tupac Shakur
- Illmatic (1994) by Nas
- Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) by Raekwon
- Capital Punishment (1998) by Big Pun
- My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010) by Kanye West
- Good Kidd Maad City (2012) by Kendrick Lamar
- Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) by Wu-Tang Clan
- The Eminem Show (2002) by Eminem
- The Score (1996) by The Fugees
- Liquid Swords (1995) by GZA
- Aquemini (1998) by Outkast
- Reasonable Doubt (1996) by Jay-Z
- The Money Store (2012) by Death Grips
- Black on Both Sides (1999) by Mos Def
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Never felt any inclination whatsoever to listen to any sort of rap music.
Unlike my favourite Beatle I don’t think it’s nothing but computerised crap– I haven’t anything against it– but I don’t listen to it nor plan to anytime soon.
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9.04pm
1 November 2013
While I don’t have any favorite albums (I don’t play to many albums) I like rap music.
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10.34pm
20 January 2016
I think rap music, at its best, is very creative, intelligent, emotional, poetic and inspiring. Some people say rap is just noise. I don’t agree at all. They said metal and punk was noise. They said Chuck Berry was noise. They said The Beatles was noise.
Many of those averse to rap (often white, suburban, age 40+) have not given it a fair shot. Yes, the majority of the mainstream rap scene is cliche, ignorant and full of autotune, but there are plenty of lesser known and older classic rappers out there that are intellectually and emotionally stimulating.
Frankly put, A&R’s, executives and an “casually” racist society in general want black people to primarily make monkey-music. A bunch of rappers who want to defy stereotypes and talk about things other than drugs and guns, God forbid that! God forbid the record companies promote a black rapper who is intricate, sophisticated and a positive role model for millions of kids. God forbid that! It would dispel the stereotype that black people in the ghetto are dumb n*****s, just because they dress differently and have different slang than we do.
I would say that I identify more with black music than white music. While I think a lot of white bands are fantastic, I can’t relate to many of their lyrics. I can relate to themes of inspiration, spirituality, poverty, police brutality, racism, culture, social norms, self-esteem, abandonment, being outcasted and making something out of nothing. I can’t relate to all of the experiences that come with being black, but I can certainly relate to the many things talked about their songs.
Kendrick Lamar is one of the few musicians in the millennial generation that I could say is a role model and his music is really relevant and sorely needed in context of the times we live in.
Kendrick Lamar is our modern John Lennon and Bob Dylan. Songs like “Woman is the N***** of the World”, “Working Class Hero “, “Hurricane” and “Blowing In The Wind” cut deep, and they’ve finally found their match.
“Mortal Man” is incredible.
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The Hippie Chick10.58pm
5 November 2011
I don’t listen to a lot of rap music, but my fave album is The Predator by Ice Cube – I’ve been listening to it since I was around eight and it just keeps getting better every time I listen to it.
I have greatest hits albums that I really enjoy by A Tribe Called Quest, Tupac, and Biggie Smalls, and I really like Atmosphere (fave album is To All My Friends…).
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29 August 2013
None. Zero. Zilch.
Listened to a lot, been to some shows – does absolutely nothing for me.
But nice it’s around for the folks that appreciate it.
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1.25am
27 March 2015
I definitely wouldn’t buy an album. I’ll happily rap along with Eminem’s ‘Lose Yourself’, though. I think that what he does is very impressive. He’s a real wordsmith, which can’t be said for many rappers. Anyway, I’m not the biggest fan of the genre and rarely listen to it, but there’s some good stuff out there.
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9.27am
17 January 2016
Not a huge listener of rap music but I am impressed with Kendrick’s To Pimp A Butterfly. I can appreciate much of the genre’s output, too even though I’m not a main listener. Derek, your initial list was a good one, some very important albums on there.
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In the early 90s I drove a friend and her nephew to Phoenix for a karate tournament and to visit my uncle and his wife and daughters. The only thing that would keep the nephew quiet and good in the van was listening to this album. That was my fill of rap music for my whole life.
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17 December 2012
My favourite rap album (in fact, about the only rap album I truly love), is the JAMs (The Justified Ancients of MuMu) very rare 1987 (What the F**k Is Going On?) that was banned and ordered destroyed within weeks of its release as artist after artist went after them for their liberal use of samples they hadn’t bothered clearing.
Nothing like a Scottish rapper from the River Clyde.
Some of my favourite tracks:
The track that played the biggest in the order that the album had to be withdrawn and every copy destroyed:
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11 November 2010
By the way, here’s a previous topic with a somewhat similar concept if you wanna read through it:
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5.31pm
14 December 2009
I like rap/hip-hop (still dunno the difference) to a limited extent – I find it gets tiresome after an album’s worth. And most of my real favourite rap LPs are all like 25-30 years old – once Autotune was invented and copyright-infringement laws ensured that they all quit building albums upon dozens of samples of old (amazingly recorded) 60s-80s records, I began to really dislike it. Also, the fact so much of it is (by definition) built upon LYRICS rather than music is a discouraging factor, since lyrics are far down my list of what makes a great record. And the fact that black slang keeps changing makes it ever-harder for a middle-class white-bread 50ish Canadian like me to understand what exactly they’re talking about! But still, I bought the “Rapper’s Delight” single back in 1980 because I thought it was unique, when all the Cheap Trick fans in my Northern Ontario 7th Grade class dissed it, so I always had a bit of a taste for the stuff. And certain rap singles – like, one song at a time – are as vital as any music I’ve ever heard.
Anyways dammit, JUST YOU WAIT until next year when weed is legal in Canada and I have a steady supply…you can bet I’ll be checking out some classic Nas and Kendrick Lamar and Boogie Down Productions and Tupac albums that I’ve been too jaded and cynical to properly appreciate!
Anyways, for now…here’s a Top Ten
1. Ice Cube – The Predator
2. Beastie Boys – Paul’s Boutique
3. Ice Cube – AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted
4. Roxanne Shante – Bad Sista
5. The Coup – Steal This Album
6. Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
7. NWA – Straight Outta Compton
8. De La Soul – 3 Feet High And rising
9. Schooly D
10. Outkast – Aquemini
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6.16pm
9 March 2017
I hope I’m not coming off as a troll but I hate rap music for several reasons:
1. The vast majority of rap songs involve using samples thereby voiding any instrumental talent, I believe a song should have good instrumentation and I hate the idea of just taking someone else’s song, OOPS-ing it, and rapping over it
2. Drum machines are often involved as well, people should use real drummers and if I ever heard someone say that a beat maker (a person who uses a drum machine to make quick and simple beats) is as much as a musician as Neil Peart, John Bonham, or Ringo Starr , I think I’d cry while sticking my feet in a toilet that has hot coffee in it, all while listening to David Bowie’s Ashes To Ashes
3. Inappropriate lyrics, I’m fine with people using words like f**k and s**t, even around small children but do you really have to talk about stuff such as having sexual intercourse, smoking marijuana, and how nice someone’s ass is. Also, N—r shouldn’t be the most used word in rap music that isn’t a pronoun, I bet if Martin Luther King was alive, he’d be ashamed of how people misuse that word whereas 60 years ago that word was meant to piss off an African American
4. Irrelevant lyrics, think before you rap and make sure the lyrics are relevant. For example, in the song Side To Side, Nicki Minaj is rapping about bicycles and tricycles despite having nothing to do with the song. Is this a reference to Bicycle Race, should I try to play the song in reverse, if I did would I hear “all I want to do is bicycle bicycle bicycle I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle”. No, it’s just some stupid lyrical decision, this isn’t the only case either, actually poor word choice like this happens frequently, but it’s a very notable one
5. So many modern rappers can’t even sing and just use autotune, I think that if you suck so badly at singing that you need autotune, then you shouldn’t sing. There are some bad singers out there such as (in my opinion) Rod Stewart, Shane MacGowan, Tiny Tim, Justin Bieber, Elmo, John Deacon, and Ringo Starr , but at least those people have the balls to actually sing instead of use autotune.
Anyways, the best rap album of all time would probably be License To Ill by The Beastie Boys because I like the song (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!), although I don’t consider that song a rap song. Also, I like Rage Against The Machine, but I don’t consider them rap.
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6.52pm
26 January 2017
Best rap albums imo:
Nas – Illmatic
The Wu Tang Clan – Enter The Wu Tang (36 Chambers)
Dr. Dre – The Chronic
N.W.A – Straight Outta Compton
Biggie – Ready To Die
Outkast – Atliens and Aquemini.
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17 December 2012
I’ve said it before, in this thread, but that was over a year ago, and I really do love this album…
Scottish Rap! What’s not to love?
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7.36pm
9 March 2017
Interesting Ron Nasty, you don’t seem like the type of person who would like rap music, I always expected you to be into 60’s and 70’s classic rock acts like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys , T-Rex, Queen, David Bowie, Elton John, Rod Stewart, The Eagles, Pink Floyd, and Billy Joel.
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27 November 2016
I couldn’t agree with you more, @Dark Overlord. Rap music is an oxymoron: rap cannot be music; it is computer generated sound.
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