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15 February 2015
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Ron Nasty said
If you’re going to throw something like “Marsocco” into the conversation, @Beatlebug, you could at least * and explain. Else I’m going to still think massive typo however reasonable the later explanation.
I think I mentioned it previously, maybe on the previous page tho. I was in a PWT mood to be cryptic. 
Anyway, I’m listening to “Alan’s Psychedelic Breakfast” to start my #PinkFloydFriday properly. 
@Jules, Saucerful is Nick Mason’s favorite Floyd album. I can see why Piper didn’t vibe with you quite like expected — it’s almost a different group than the Pink Floyd we know and love.
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9.36am
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That Would Be Something – Paul McCartney (today in 1971
Erm… no… released today in 1970… recorded in December 1969…
EDIT:
See you spotted the error… 
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Offline Beatlebug said
@Jules, Saucerful is Nick Mason’s favorite Floyd album. I can see why Piper didn’t vibe with you quite like expected — it’s almost a different group than the Pink Floyd we know and love.
Precisely my thoughts. Syd’s vision of the band was so different from Waters’ (which is the one I fell in love with). Saucerful just fits with the rest of their discography way more.
Still, it’s not that I don’t notice the influence Barrett’s tastes had on the band’s overall sound and evolution. I noticed that in most Pink Floyd albums there are (in some way applied) screams and laughs in between tracks, and that was a purely Barrett touch, that was also prevalent on Piper, and I guess it had a lot to do with his paranoia and bad trips on LSD. That’s why I still love Syd, he gave the rest of the band that scary edge they probably wouldn’t have acquired otherwise and I notice it more and more each time I listen to their first two albums.
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11.22am
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Offline Bringing over a comparison from another thread, since you said you’d check out the Beach Boys ’ intermediate period, listen to the Pink Floyd early years box set which goes through sessions from 67-72, basically the genesis of the band to pre-Dark Side era. You can really hear the band as a whole break away from Syd’s songwriting style and into more experimental jams. Plus Gilmour comes out with some beautiful tunes (Fat Old Sun, Green is the color)
Also I don’t appreciate calling it Roger’s band, as Rick Wright composed their long suites like Echoes and Shine On that really separated them from other bands at the time. Sure Roger came up with the Lyrical sets, but Gilmour brought the roof down on every solo, without which I’m not sure I’d like Pink Floyd. I got into them through Syd and really thought Dark Side was overrated until I heard Wish You Were Here and Animals, and ‘With A Little Help From My Friends 
’ the ‘Waters Period’ became some of my favorite music is history.
apologies for two long paragraphs in two different threads in response to you @Jules , but Beach Boys and Pink Floyd are two of my favorite bands and I took some exception to some of what you said. I do however appreciate the discussion about them as I had started to run out of things to say about Led Zeppelin. 
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11.28am
28 February 2020
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Beatlebug said
@Jules, Saucerful is Nick Mason’s favorite Floyd album. I can see why Piper didn’t vibe with you quite like expected — it’s almost a different group than the Pink Floyd we know and love.
Precisely my thoughts. Syd’s vision of the band was so different from Waters’ (which is the one I fell in love with). Saucerful just fits with the rest of their discography way more.
Still, it’s not that I don’t notice the influence Barrett’s tastes had on the band’s overall sound and evolution. I noticed that in most Pink Floyd albums there are (in some way applied) screams and laughs in between tracks, and that was a purely Barrett touch, that was also prevalent on Piper, and I guess it had a lot to do with his paranoia and bad trips on LSD. That’s why I still love Syd, he gave the rest of the band that scary edge they probably wouldn’t have acquired otherwise and I notice it more and more each time I listen to their first two albums.
Take Piper on it’s own terms. think of it as a companion piece to the Pretty Things S.F. Sorrow. Former Beatles engineer, Norman Smith produced both at nearly the same terms. Piper is my favorite Floyd album but I’d never call it the best.
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11.33am
5 December 2019
Offline Clerefor Sede said
Beatlebug said
@Jules, Saucerful is Nick Mason’s favorite Floyd album. I can see why Piper didn’t vibe with you quite like expected — it’s almost a different group than the Pink Floyd we know and love.
Precisely my thoughts. Syd’s vision of the band was so different from Waters’ (which is the one I fell in love with). Saucerful just fits with the rest of their discography way more.
Still, it’s not that I don’t notice the influence Barrett’s tastes had on the band’s overall sound and evolution. I noticed that in most Pink Floyd albums there are (in some way applied) screams and laughs in between tracks, and that was a purely Barrett touch, that was also prevalent on Piper, and I guess it had a lot to do with his paranoia and bad trips on LSD. That’s why I still love Syd, he gave the rest of the band that scary edge they probably wouldn’t have acquired otherwise and I notice it more and more each time I listen to their first two albums.
I completely agree. My brother was a big Floyd fan before I was (which makes a lot of sense considering he is eight years older than me but anyhoo), but he only really listened to Waters’ Floyd, so that is all I heard. So when I grew up into the young woman I am today with an independent sense of music exploration and I discovered Syd’s Floyd I was blown away but also kind of really into Syd’s vibes, even though he didn’t sound at all like the Floyd I heard coming from my brother’s room growing up.
All in all, I’ve always loved Piper and Syd Barret’s weird-as-hell vibes and I do completely agree that Floyd wouldn’t have evolved as well as it did without his early influences.
For all the time spent in that room…the doll’s house darkness old perfume….and fairy stories held me high….on clouds of sunlight floating by
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1.06pm
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15 February 2015
Offline ^I think most of us got into Waters/Gilmour Floyd first. I’ve always held that Rick was the true “soul” of Pink Floyd, if you have to pick just one member (which one’s Pink? They all are, but it’s pinker with Rick…) I think Nick Mason’s drumming is incredibly underrated as well.
IT WAS FIFTY YEARS AGO TODAY
MACCA LEFT THE FAB FOUR BAND TO PLAY
HE’S BEEN GOING IN AND OUT OF STYLE
BUT AT THE TIME HE WAS GUARANTEED TO RAISE SOME IRE
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4.23pm
25 February 2020
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Going through her stuff chronologically before I dive into the new album
4.53pm
8 August 2019
Offline sir walter raleigh said
Also I don’t appreciate calling it Roger’s band, as Rick Wright composed their long suites like Echoes and Shine On that really separated them from other bands at the time.
Well… he did write 90% of The Wall…
Look, much like Lennon/McCartney, it is the fusion that matters, BUT, Roger seemed to be more invested in creating the overall album structures and aesthetics, he spend the most time in the studio and wrote (and re-wrote) most of the material, also he wrote the movie The Wall and he was the mind behind their live shows (plus Dark Side of the Moon and Animals are basically his, and are also two of the best albums ever made). And also every composition that he didn’t write had to go through him first before being put into an album, and even if Gilmour or Wright had some of their best compositions, it was Waters who grabbed them and put them in context to fit the rest of the compositions of whatever album they were working at the time.
He essentially was the leader, and he was the guy with the big picture ideas. Was he kind of egocentric? Maybe, but he was the brain behind the operation and just because the rest of the band had a lot of fantastic writing credits as well, Gilmour was still kind of a lone ranger and Wright reserved a lot to himself while Waters wanted everything to work out as a machine, he believed in team work, and wanted every project to be an opera. His need to control everything actually was one of the reasons they fought so much. Wright was like the silent genius and Gilmour one of the best guitarists who ever lived, but I do think it was Waters’ band, yes. My point is that doesn’t take any credit from either of them, I just want you to know that. They were half of the genius but they didn’t have the skin to tell people what to do.
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5.00pm
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15 February 2015
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Beatlebug said
IT WAS FIFTY YEARS AGO TODAY
MACCA LEFT THE FAB FOUR BAND TO PLAY
HE’S BEEN GOING IN AND OUT OF STYLE
BUT AT THE TIME HE WAS GUARANTEED TO RAISE SOME IRE
for the second? third? time today (I’ve really not listened to it that much in the past, so I’m suddenly realizing what wonderful kitchen/garden music it is and digging it).
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Pink Floyd – Atom Heart Mother (1970)
Another pinnacle in the hippy pastoral kitchen music canon.
not Roger’s band!
I think you could argue that Roger was the visionary manager while David and Rick were the ones who actually did a lot of the work and Nick held everything together. Each as integral as the other. It’s a bit like saying Tesla is Elon Musk’s company — it is, but the people who actually do most of the R&D deserve as much credit.
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6.03pm
5 December 2019
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So I’m throwing on The Wall while I walk my doggo in Pennsylvania’s fine April rain.
Now:
The Wall — Pink Floyd (1979)
Later….
Beatlebug said
IT WAS FIFTY YEARS AGO TODAY
MACCA LEFT THE FAB FOUR BAND TO PLAY
HE’S BEEN GOING IN AND OUT OF STYLE
BUT AT THE TIME HE WAS GUARANTEED TO RAISE SOME IRE
Planning on listening to McCartney later in the evening for a pre-bedtime/late-night-GBBO-binge drawing session
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8.04pm
1 December 2009
Offline I’d say post-Syd Floyd was more Gilmour-Wright dominant at first, with Waters encroaching on the creative control (and singing less infrequently) more and more over time, with “The Wall” as his ultimate statement. But I’m not terribly Floyd-scholarly so whaddo I know…?
Listening to
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8.43pm
8 August 2019
Offline Beatlebug said
not Roger’s band!
I think you could argue that Roger was the visionary manager while David and Rick were the ones who actually did a lot of the work and Nick held everything together. Each as integral as the other. It’s a bit like saying Tesla is Elon Musk’s company — it is, but the people who actually do most of the R&D deserve as much credit.
I agree completely. But Roger didn’t do any LESS work than the rest, keep that in mind. The correct statement would be to say that from the outside it seems like Roger Waters was pulling the strings, but inside the studio they were all equally talented and visionary.
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15 February 2015
Offline ^Yeah. I think there’s something to what vb said as well. Syd, like him or not, did leave big shoes to fill as frontman/visionary, and in the beginning it was never clear who would fill them, leaving the others sort of jostling for position in a way, which dynamic set the band up to split quite early on, and also produced some incredibly creative material.
Was: McCartney again I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM I SWEAR. (also this was my 4th listen today.) (I can stop any time.)
Am: Pink Floyd – Obscured by Clouds (1972)
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Some assorted Canadian classic rock stuffs (April Wine, Streetheart, etc). Currently:
Yay! True patriot love…I’ll join you, then I’m going to bed. Winner of the 1978 Juno Award for “Best Toronto-based Styx Imitators” (OK I made part of that up)…ZON
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5.57am
22 July 2019
Offline I’d recommend listening to the whole soundtrack, has quite a few ‘bangers’ on it. Or if you are willing to invest time and money, perhaps you could play the whole game, it’s pretty darn good if I do say so myself.
Side note: I’m really liking “Point of View/Where to Spend my Dollar?”. Any other Canadian albums I should look out for?
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