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9 August 2015
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TZig said

The same kind of thing happens here as well. Growing up in Upstate New York, I drank soda (Coke, Pepsi, etc…). I met a guy from Boston who called it tonic. When I moved to Arizona, they called it pop. Also in Arizona, a bag (paper or plastic) was called a sack. I was once asked by a cashier if I wanted my pop in a sack. It was a confusing conversation. Then when I moved to Maine, I discovered a shopping cart was called a buggy.

I had an argument with a mate who said ‘soda was very fattening’ (I use it as a substitute for beer)…….He’s as English as I am….and we both thought we were talking about soda water……carbonated water…Which we both call ‘soda’. 

He insisted it was soo fattening……I just knew that it couldn’t be. He’d read research that proved it…….’OK show me’ He couldn’t find where he’d read it.

I woke up next day thinking about it and it dawned on me he’d must have read some American survey and that as they call pop/coke etc ‘soda’ it was a simple misunderstanding……….But it took two old farts longer than it should to fathom it.

 

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Annadog40 declared

Also if you go to Ireland and have bacon, it tastes like American ham and bacon combined.

Ye Yanks don’t know proper bacon! 

(Wait a second, first we have to define what “bacon” we’re talking about- as there is mass confusion over the internet over what type of “bacon” we’re talking about)

 

This is “our bacon”

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I don’t eat pork anymore but that ^ is scrumdiddlyumptious with some cabbage! (And to put another myth to rest- we don’t eat corned beef, I don’t even know what corned beef is but it sounds nasty a-hard-days-night-paul-7)

Corned beef isn’t nasty, it’s quite good. It’s basically beef that’s been cured in salt and peppercorns (hence the ‘corned’ bit). 

And… scrumdiddlyumptious? As in 

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I liked that book, yes I did a-hard-days-night-george-9 

His gobblefunk reminded me of John Lennon In His Own Write and A Spaniard In The Worksa-hard-days-night-john-6

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@Beatlebug 

Silly Girl.  

BFG’s speaking patterns were based on ‘Wal’ Wally Saunders…… Dahl’s builder, and snooker partner.  It’s a very pronounced rural Buckinghamshire accent.

‘A drop mur thinners in dthaat Theo’…..Meaning more soda water in his whiskey.

All the wiz-popping words created were pure Dahl though.

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Silly Girl.  

BFG’s speaking patterns were based on ‘Wal’ Wally Saunders…… Dahl’s builder, and snooker partner.  It’s a very pronounced rural Buckinghamshire accent.

‘A drop mur thinners in dthaat Theo’…..Meaning more soda water in his whiskey.

All the wiz-popping words created were pure Dahl though.

The whiz-popping words were what I was talking about– he (BFG) called it ‘gobblefunk’. 

Whiz-popping, as I recall, was BFG’s term for…  

flatulence. a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

 

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Annadog40 said

 

Also if you go to Ireland and have bacon, it tastes like American ham and bacon combined.

Ye Yanks don’t know proper bacon! 

(Wait a second, first we have to define what “bacon” we’re talking about- as there is mass confusion over the internet over what type of “bacon” we’re talking about)

 

This is “our bacon”

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I don’t eat pork anymore but that ^ is scrumdiddlyumptious with some cabbage! (And to put another myth to rest- we don’t eat corned beef, I don’t even know what corned beef is but it sounds nasty a-hard-days-night-paul-7)

Whereas what ye Americans would call “bacon”, we call “rashers”

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And I have just made a load of you very hungry, sorry about that :/

Here in scotland the top is usually referred to as a gammon joint. Ham is thin slices that go in your sandwich. Bacon is bacon; you occasionally see them as bacon rashers but its an extra word and we dont see the point of extraneous words. 

I will not be tempted by the bacon. I will not be tempted by the bacon.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

The BFG is an amazing book, my favourite Roald Dahl story and one of my favourite books ever. Sozzcumbers and frobscottle. Its the only book i can remember that talked merrily about farting without it seeming gross and unpleasant. The other giants scared me massively when i read it the first few times and was generally delighted at the end. Another author who can do that is a genius.

The film cartoon is bearable but comes nowhere close to replicating the magic of the book; a classic example if ever one was needed. 

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ahdn_paul_06 I went to Ireland and tried their “Bacon” have you went to the USA and tried bacon?

I must confess I haven’t (don’t make me bring out the ‘shame’ gif again, please!) but from what I’ve heard from many friends who have money to go to America, your meat quality in general is poorer than ours* (I have just created a sh*t storm haven’t I?)

*For example this year the U.S allowed Irish meat to be sold there for the first time in many years because of worries over BSE. Irish beef is now being sold at premium prices (i.e. $100+) because of it naturally being grass-fed, organic and because they rarely contain any growth-hormones/antibiotics in them, which must-be a rare thing in America that us Irish people take for granted hence the quality prices.

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Yanks are from New York.

It’s a colloquial term for a person who is from the U.S here. To quote from Wikipedia:

Yank is a shortened form of Yankee, a slang term (sometimes pejorative) for someone of American origin or heritage.

Of course I amn’t using it in a pejorative sense of course, I like Americans, ye’re great craic. 

 

The BFG is probably my least favourite Dahl book (and I think I’ve read all of his children’s works). I hated the animated film and although I owned it on DVD, I could never get past the first half-hour of it because I thought it was so boring. I think it’s the only Dahl book I’ve never reread but I should give it another try. However, I do love the way the BFG speaks!

 

Edit: Actually thinking about it, my least favourite is probably ‘James and the Giant Peach’ seeing as I couldn’t even finish it! >.>

 

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 Were this bacon

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@AppleScruffJunior, we here would call it boiling bacon. Unfortunately, it’s not. That is a gammon joint. There is a difference, bacon comes from the back or loin, whereas gammon uses the leg.

Here is that piece of meat before it was cooked…

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While this is proper boiling bacon…

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I don’t know what to say, I never thought I would have a discussion about pig by-products on this forum- but there you go.

 

And thanks for the insight RN, but I’m stubborn* and I’m sticking to calling the big slab of pork- bacon!

*I’m an Aquarius- it’s what we do.

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*I’m an Aquarius- it’s what we do.

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I’m back on laptop-power again! Yayyyy!!!!!! 

Annadog, I find that blinking thing very unnerving. a-hard-days-night-john-7 

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Yanks are from New York.

It’s a colloquial term for a person who is from the U.S here. To quote from Wikipedia:

Yank is a shortened form of Yankee, a slang term (sometimes pejorative) for someone of American origin or heritage.

Of course I amn’t using it in a pejorative sense of course, I like Americans, ye’re great craic
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Great craic? a-hard-days-night-ringo-4 I like Irish, ye’re great craic too. a-hard-days-night-john-6 

I amn’t teasing. 

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…from what I’ve heard from many friends who have money to go to America, your meat quality in general is poorer than ours.

I don’t doubt that for a moment. For years and years, I merrily ate steaks that I thought were delicious. Then I had a steak that was, as you put it, “naturally grass-fed, organic and (did not) contain any growth-hormones/antibiotics”. That was the day I truly started eating steak. The crap (sometimes literally) that is allowed by the FDA is appalling. Having lived in the US all my life, I would not want to live anywhere else for any reason. Sometimes, though, it is a challenge.

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^ It was big news over when for farmers (obviously) when our meat was allowed to be exported ‘cross the Atlantic and they showed some of the American feed-lots that ye have, I remember hearing something like 60,000 cows on a really small bit of land for the amount of cows that were farmed there, I think there was something like 300 miles of troughs :O

Most cows over here are farmed by families (like my friends’), so seeing something like that (outside of a PETA video) is really eye-opening, I’d hate to see your slaughterhouses! 

In saying that though, our treatment of poultry isn’t as good as our sheep or cow farming*- it’s awful seeing them stuffed into small crates on their way to meet their maker ahdn_paul_02

*And we were the first European country to find horse meat in what was meant to be “100% beef products”, so…. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

 

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I’m back on laptop-power again! Yayyyy!!!!!! 

Annadog, I find that blinking thing very unnerving. a-hard-days-night-john-7 

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Yanks are from New York.

It’s a colloquial term for a person who is from the U.S here. To quote from Wikipedia:

Yank is a shortened form of Yankee, a slang term (sometimes pejorative) for someone of American origin or heritage.

Of course I amn’t using it in a pejorative sense of course, I like Americans, ye’re great craic
<trim>

Great craic? a-hard-days-night-ringo-4 I like Irish, ye’re great craic too. a-hard-days-night-john-6 

I amn’t teasing. 

D’ya want a fight SG, huh, huh?!?! Ya mocking my culture, like?!?!

A+ for Hiberno-English use though.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN “AMN’T” ISN’T PROPER ENGLISH- SCREW THAT!

If ‘aren’t’ is acceptable why isn’t ‘amn’t’- jeez English, what are you doing?

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AppleScruffJunior gasped indignantly  

Silly Girl commented cheekily

AppleScruffJunior grinned

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Of course I amn’t using it in a pejorative sense of course, I like Americans, ye’re great craic
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Great craic? a-hard-days-night-ringo-4 I like Irish, ye’re great craic too. a-hard-days-night-john-6 

I amn’t teasing. 

D’ya want a fight SG, huh, huh?!?! Ya mocking my culture, like?!?!

A+ for Hiberno-English use though.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN “AMN’T” ISN’T PROPER ENGLISH- SCREW THAT!

If ‘aren’t’ is acceptable why isn’t ‘amn’t’- jeez English, what are you doing?

^ Sorry, couldn’t help meself a-hard-days-night-john-6 I find your Hibernisms adorable a-hard-days-night-ringo-6 ummm ahdn_paul_02 lovely. a-hard-days-night-george-9 I think they’ve rubbed off on me– I find myself using words like ‘t’is’ and ‘amn’t’ quite frequently. You see what you’ve done? a-hard-days-night-paul-5

I always did like to collect unique (to us here in Ummerrica) speech patterns. And ‘amn’t’ ought to be perfectly acceptable, though it doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue… but it’s English, so it doesn’t have to! a-hard-days-night-john-1 

ahdn_paul_06 Wow, what a lot of smileys, even for me… 

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These Hibernisms, are they anything to do with bottling it at big moments like the Scottish football team Hibernian FC consistently do?

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One of my favourite lines from the Pearl Jam album Lightning Bolt (which I can’t seem to stop listening to every day or three):

Want a third second chance

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These Hibernisms, are they anything to do with bottling it at big moments like the Scottish football team Hibernian FC consistently do?

 

Ouch mmm, that hurt.

 

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Anyways, I’m a Partick Thistle supporter, sure everyone knows that a-hard-days-night-paul-10.

 

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Oh bugger…….My almost only superstition, or compulsive reaction is that when I hear or see ‘Partick Thistle’ I have to say it out loud. And say it in the manner of the  announcer who would read the football results so we could check our pools coupons on a Saturday teatime ……

 

I don’t know why I do it?……..I think it was the way this guy said it. As a kid I found myself  repeating it immediately and rolling the tip of my tongue around the squeezing of 3 sounds into the first vowel and about 4 into the last….and it’s stuck.

Madness……

‘Nurse, time for Mr Wigwam’s medication.’

 

Anyhow, back to the important topic of the day……. bacon…..

Whatever you think of American bacon…….They saved ours in WWII.

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^ I thought we were turning this into a Scottish Football thread?

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