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2 June 2019
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Okay there are very few Beatles songs I dislike and I can say with certainty that Little Child is just straight up bad, and I will forever maintain it is the worst beatles song.  I agree with Fiddy.  

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Rollicking Piano, a sweet harmonica part, great harmonies, and a classic rock vocal performance from John. Yep… utter trash

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sir walter raleigh said
RollickingDissonant Piano, a sweetloud and abrasive harmonica part, greatmeh harmonies, and a classicnon-extraordinary rock vocal performance from John. Yep… utter trash

  

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sir walter raleigh said
Rollicking Piano, a sweet harmonica part, great harmonies, and a classic rock vocal performance from John. Yep… utter trash

  

Good way to describe it. The energy of the early years goes a long way as well.

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Everybody is correct, yay! apple01

I’m cool with dissonance and abrasion. 

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I have a saying.  “Nothing makes me appreciate a Beatles song like reading Alan Pollack’s notes it,” and I must say it is certainly amusing reading even him struggle to find something nice to say about this song.

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Wow did he really have to dig deep for that one. “The sexist lyrics aren’t all that bad once you get used to it” lmao

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I don’t even know all the lyrics by memory

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Sexist lyrics? Give me a break. They have a million other songs about the exact same thing. The hate for this song is getting ridiculous 

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sir walter raleigh said
Sexist lyrics? Give me a break. They have a million other songs about the exact same thing. The hate for this song is getting ridiculous 

  

The point wasn’t that the song’s lyrics were sexist or that that’s even unforgivable if they are (I’m still bopping to You Can’t Do That with the best of them).  The point was that the closest thing to a compliment Alan Pollack could muster for this sorry excuse of a song amounted to “The sexist lyrics aren’t all that bad once you get used to it.”

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Yeah… Little Child definitely isn’t one of my favorites. I believe it was a quick write originally meant for Ringo. The pattern of the piano is somewhat interesting, but the rest of it (structure, lyrics, progression) falls flat for me.

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sir walter raleigh said
Sexist lyrics? Give me a break. They have a million other songs about the exact same thing. The hate for this song is getting ridiculous 

  

Honestly? I don’t really care about the lyrics (though I agree that they’re subpar.) It’s just the I don’t like the music. I don’t like the way the song sounds. I’m not sure what about that is so difficult to understand or why my personal preference seems to offend you, but that’s the way it is.

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Not offended, just debating the Beatles on a Beatles forum…

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If anyone believes John was going after a Little Child then they’re utterly deluded, so what’s sexist?

This moaning about lyrics from a song released 50+ years ago that are common on another 850,000 songs out there and are in no way worse than what’s getting put out today irritates the hell out of me. 

Still, better than the nutters who wanted Britney’s ‘Baby One More Time’ banned due to it suggesting, glorifying, promoting S&M or, even worse, domestic abuse.

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It’s more the melody of Little Child that irritates me – I just don’t it like it when they sing ‘I’m so sad and looonely’. It’s not their worst song, it’s just a bit boring and forgettable. 

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I mean the lyrics are sexist, but if the song itself was good enough to stand on its own the first place it wouldn’t even be a point of discussion.  I really don’t care about the lyrics that much, but when I’m listening to a song that’s so bad all the subpar stuff tends to stick out even though with a better song it wouldn’t matter.

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I couldn’t care less about the lyrics. I don’t even know the lyrics. I just do not like the way the song sounds. And honestly, I don’t let lyrics influence my opinion of a song anyway. I mean, I like Run For Your Life , which has downright psychotic lyrics. The lyrics of Little Child mean nothing to me.

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The lyrics are a bit odd, if some 22 year old man came up to my kid (Little Child makes me think a 4 or a 5 year old) and says “I’m so sad and lonely/Baby, take a chance with me”, then O.o.

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If you think he (or anyone else who has ever written a love song addressing their ‘baby’) means ‘Little Child ‘ literally, I have a very fine, gently used bridge which you might be interested in purchasing. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I know he’s not meaning it literally- I’m not thick, it just sounds odd. Addressing a woman as ‘Little Child ‘ isn’t a particularly delightful term of endearment, plenty of people call their significant other ‘baby’, I’ve never heard anybody call their partner “Little Child “. 

I don’t care for it much as a song, the title is just….. It could have been changed is what I’m saying. 

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AppleScruffJunior said
I know he’s not meaning it literally- I’m not thick, it just sounds odd. Addressing a woman as ‘Little Child ‘ isn’t a particularly delightful term of endearment, plenty of people call their significant other ‘baby’, I’ve never heard anybody call their partner “Little Child “. 

I don’t care for it much as a song, the title is just….. It could have been changed is what I’m saying. 

  

So why is baby ok? It’s just as odd a term when you think about it, especially if a grown adult is saying what he/she wants to do with their “baby”.

I like the song for what it is – a throwaway filler that I doubt John gave more than 10 minutes of time to when writing or any thought of 5 minutes after ‘WTB’ was released if at all after agreeing it would go on the album. It’s not like he suggested it for the first album, the band failed when recording it, forced it back on the group for the second, the band making a truly dire job of it, and horrify me every time it’s brought to mind. Nor did he rewrite the lyrics, give it a whole new tune, produce something just as awful, shove it in one of the worst medleys ever, release it, and irritate the hell out of me again. 

No idea how anyone can think ‘Little Child ‘ is the worst song on ‘With The Beatles ‘ when only a few songs later the truly abysmally atrocious ‘Hold Me Tight ‘ starts. The only song in the entire Beatles catalogue I will only ever listen to as part of the album it came on and even then I have to take a deep breath to get thru it and try not to pay any attention when it’s on. Ghastly lyrics, backing vocals featuring John and George sounding ever more bored than during ‘A Taste Of Honey ‘, a rhythm track that can barely be bothered to keep going, and a lead vocal where Paul is trying so hard to bring life to such a piece of crap yet only results in mutilating it even more.

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