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The Guitar (and Other Musical Instruments) Thread
24 January 2018
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Oh yeah, I feck up all the time. I just keep playing it till I get it right.  

Which reminds me… I was talking to someone I met the other day about this sort of thing. They said that they were often wary of trying to learn new things, for fear of learning them wrong, and I realised that I’ve never, ever had that problem — and I’ve done pretty well so far; sometimes I’ve had to relearn things that I could have learnt more ‘properly’ at first, but it wasn’t a big deal. It was just all part of the learning process.

What I came here to say, though, is that I just decided that one day I’m going to get (or convert) a left-handed guitar and teach myself to play southpaw, just because. a-hard-days-night-george-4 I probably won’t be Page-level or anything when playing left-hand, but just to be able to do rhythm and stuff with both hands would be an interesting skill to have. And I could more effectively dress up as Ziggy Stardust for Halloween a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Even though I’m generally a left-hander in most things, I chose to learn guitars right-handed and I can’t say for certain whether learning left-handed would have been better. I have wondered whether my issues with singing in a different rhythm to playing bass stems from that, but I think I just have to learn it the hard way like most people do.

Learning the opposite way should be done with caution nevertheless, the benefits may be minimal and seriously confuse your motor functions. Lefties appear to be more naturally ambidextrous (capable of learning both ways) than righties. I actually changed my handedness with cutlery, but I’ve never been able to draw with my left hand on a computer, because I’ve learnt to use a mouse with my right. 

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Firstly I want to say I don’t underestimate the Jimmy at all, I think his acoustic playing is brilliant, possibly better than his electric guitar because he seems to feel it more than that. Page is brilliant because he’s got the rare (for a top guitarist) sense of knowing what to play where, I just think as great as a riff-maker he is on the electric, he seems to be a different musician altogether on the acoustic. I really love playing bass along to Zeppelin and I’ve learnt the odd Zepp riff but that’s where it is for me.

Now for the last few weeks I’ve been in love with my new practice amp, the tiny (but mighty) and attractively cheap Vox vx1. It’s got 11 amp models, and most are great sounds, although some aren’t really working for a humbucker-based guitar and I know they’ll sound better with single-coils. You’ve got tweed amps, the ac30, the marshalls and dual rectifier type of overdriven amps and some nice cleans. And it has presets and can be programmed but it seems a bit of overkill for me. It’s got some great effects but they’re on only two knobs, one for modulation effect, one for various delays. I really like the tape echo delay, but the analogue delay depends on your tapping in the delay and my echobrain is much better to use. I actually used it to redo the rhythm guitar for the Bible Band’s latest song. Now all I need is a champ clone and a single coil-based guitar and I’m done for most noises. Although I am really tempted to save up for some really nice pedals like the Boss CE2-waza (the BEST chorus, because it also has the CE-1 circuit, which was in the JC-120 amp) and the Echoplex pedal by Jim Dunlop, which has really long tape echo and sounds lovely.

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Apropos of nothing in particular, my complete electric guitar rig pictured below (unless you count my capo, slide, mp3 player, and headphones as part of my rig) a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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Apropos of nothing in particular, my complete electric guitar rig pictured below (unless you count my capo, slide, mp3 player, and headphones as part of my rig) a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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Cool writing on the body. It makes me want to take off my Jerry Garcia sticker and accent it in a more subtle and creatove way. 

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Thanks!

I’ve also written ‘Sadie’ on the back of the headstock and have meditated decorating the whole scratchplate with psychedelicish Zen-doodling type stuff (though I’m not brave enough to completely deface it yet).

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I recently read a great piece on Tom Morello and his attitude to gear, a wonderful antidote to the gearheads found everywhere on the internet. It’s not the gear you’ve got, it’s what you give with the gear! By no means is that license to put up with substandard quality, but that your original sound is not always found by feverish devotion to brands and nitpicking tonewoods, pickups and the kitchen sink. Also he’s really into drawing on his guitars!

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Oh hells, I forgot to post my guitars (the ones that are working, I have 2 basses that need help):

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Shona, Sparky, Mr White (rapidly becoming Mr Pink due to something wrong with the “arctic white” paintjob gradually wearing down to a red undercoat), and Mr Black. You can’t quite see it, but there are a maximum of 7 slots so I might have to buy a second rack.

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I was playing a Les Paul (only an Epiphone, but still) at the Guitar Center today, and, among the inevitable Page riffs, I made sure to play some Harrison solos: the ones from Let It Be (album version — as per @QuarryMan’s recommendation) and Something .

Wow. That thing was sweet. Sounded so good. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Oh hells, I forgot to post my guitars (the ones that are working, I have 2 basses that need help):

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Shona, Sparky, Mr White (rapidly becoming Mr Pink due to something wrong with the “arctic white” paintjob gradually wearing down to a red undercoat), and Mr Black. You can’t quite see it, but there are a maximum of 7 slots so I might have to buy a second rack.  

Color strings? I didn’t know those existed. Cool.

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I was going to say, very cool neon bass strings you have got there @ewe2!

I got some new guitar picks yesterday. Just for kicks, I decided to get Dunlop Tortex this time instead of my usual max-grips. I naively thought all plectrums were created equal, provided they are the same thickness, and I thought bright green would be a nice change…

Wow. All picks are not created equal. These new picks sound so much rounder and darker than my others… I tried it on Sadie, with my usual range of tones from clean to distorted, and I kept switching back and forth every couple notes/phrases to compare the sound (I must admit I was having a bit too much fun with the rapid-pick-switching ahdn_george_06) and finally concluded I didn’t like them as much… I preferred the slight crunch on the attack of the max-grips.

Then I tried the new picks on Martin and…

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Mind blown. It sounded soooooo good; I felt like I had new strings, even though they were cruddy old ones. a-hard-days-night-paul-7 Martin already sounded gorgeous before, but now he just sounds so much… more. Those picks really bring out my acoustic guitar’s tone. paul-mccartney-thumb_gif

The jury is in: Max-Grips for the electric, Tortex for the acoustic. My world has been expanded. a-hard-days-night-john-3

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Wow. That thing was sweet. Sounded so good. a-hard-days-night-paul-7  

Then it’s the right one. Every guitar is different, and one that makes you want to play irrespective of brand or type, that’s the right one for you. Personally I find LP’s a bit uncomfortable physically to play, which is why I’m an SG nut. But then again, I think I could put up with a 1959 Les Paul Standard PRO with the lovely P90’s!

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Color strings? I didn’t know those existed. Cool.  

They’re DR Neons in one of a couple of rainbow packs you can get. I was particularly happy with the timing to find them, not only are they a 5-string pack, not only was I about to play a special gig, but for no reason at all, someone had brought an ultraviolet light for extra prettiness and those strings lit up powerfully under its beam. Several friends said they were riveted by the sight of it! They’re a bit dead now, I need to replace them.

@beatlebug your pick discovery echoes something I’ve been hearing lately in another guitar thread elsewhere, a few people like “jazz iii” type picks, I have no idea what they are. But yes, a hard material is much better on acoustic strings than a more pliable plastic. 

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Wow. That thing was sweet. Sounded so good. a-hard-days-night-paul-7  

Then it’s the right one. Every guitar is different, and one that makes you want to play irrespective of brand or type, that’s the right one for you. Personally I find LP’s a bit uncomfortable physically to play, which is why I’m an SG nut. But then again, I think I could put up with a 1959 Les Paul Standard PRO with the lovely P90’s!  

Yeah, I do see what you mean by that. The Strat plays like butter, I just love the action on it — of course I’m used to it, but even when I first picked it up, it just seemed to make me a better player on its own playability merit. David Gilmour/George Harrison endorsement aside, I think that was what attracted me to it, back when I was first picking out an electric guitar — it felt like you describe, the right one. When I picked up the Les Paul it took me a couple minutes to adjust to the size of the neck (that thing is huge! No wonder Jimmy valued his Number One so highly!) and the weight and balance of the whole thing, and until then, I played quite badly. But when I did get acclimated, my inner tone-geek was in seventh heaven because Something sounded so Something -y. a-hard-days-night-john-6

If/hopefully when I do add a Les Paul to my stable, I might consider getting a custom neck job a là Page. ahdn_george_01

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I thought you would appreciate these videos I found on the YouTube channel Reverb, which has become one of my favourite music and gear channels in recent weeks and one which I would definitely recommend subscribing to:

I really want to buy a guitar pedal(s) of some sort, and some of them here (particularly the pairings for Paperback Writer and She Said She Said ) look appealing to me!

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I love Reverb! Great all around website for shopping and watching. They’ve been having some of my favorite musicians on to demonstrate their techniques. I’ll definitely check these out.

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Reverb are fairly useless to me for shopping, since its US-centric and most of the prices have laughably high freight charges. But they do some great articles and videos! Some nice fingering hints on songs there, particularly the second part, the Something solo is great. You can see how important compressors are from those vids. Cranking up overdrive/distortion can help with sustain, but compressors really help without sounding too “squashed”.

“Modded” my Joyo Dyna-Compressor (ie took it apart and moved the trimpot clockwise to take the base attack down, so its usable for humbuckers as well as (split) single coils), and bought a Danelectro French Toast Fuzz today. I found a great setting that sounds almost Strat-y and did a bit of Run Like Hell this morning.

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I have a dream of experimenting with combining certain instruments, mostly in unison, sometimes in harmony:

trumpet + harmonica

clarinet + harmonica

trumpet + accordion

clarinet + accordion

tenor saxophone + violin

tuba + bass harmonica

oboe + electric guitar

If anyone knows any band that tried any of these, please let me know

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I would add tenor saxophone + harmonica, but the band War already did that excellently in many songs — usually both playing the same single notes.  Meanwhile, Chicago tried tenor saxophone + electric guitar (again, both playing the same single notes, in the song “Sing a Mean Tune Kid”)

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TBH @Pineapple Records I’d be surprised if most of those combinations didn’t exist in some form in traditional jazz or zydeco or something like that.

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Apropos of nothing in particular, my complete electric guitar rig pictured below (unless you count my capo, slide, mp3 player, and headphones as part of my rig) a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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Lovely setup, @Beatlebug!  I’m very jealous of the amount of space you seem to have (I have to keep Cymbaline and my amp in front of my closet doors. And that’s not near any particularly accessable electrical outlets). paul-mccartney By the way, how do you like Frankie?*

*I’m curious about different kinds of amps and things; also I’m ridiculously confuzzled about all the bits and bobs on mine a-hard-days-night-paul-4

Also gear-related: Do any of you have any advice/tips for picking out a capo? I’m planning on picking one up in a couple days, and I’m very interested in hearing anything that might be important. a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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I’m in the market for a capo myself, and I’ll probably go with the Shubb S1 because it has a screw to tighten/loosen the tension making it much more adaptable. The C1 is a bit cheaper but I’d feel safer with a steel one, especially on an acoustic where the tension is usually higher. It’s not for classical or 12-strings tho, but apparently the S3 is designed for wider, flatter fretboards. There are fancy schmancy capos like the G7th but the prices for those here are stupidly expensive and won’t be on my list no matter how cute they look.

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