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I believe in reincarnation and I guess the easiest way to say what I am is that I am a Gnostic or esoteric Christian. I am also a Catholic bishop, but I belong to a church where the members have freedom of belief and conscience and we are against dogma. If anyone wants to know what organizations I am affiliated with, they can PM me.

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You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but what is your religion, what do you believe in?

For me, despite growing up in a devout protestant family, I believe in self-religion, that is I believe that we are all equals and when you die, you restart at the beginning of you life. For example, when I die, I will come back in 1999 as a baby again and have another chance at my life with all of the memories of my past life wiped. Think of each life as a chance to do something with yourself and think of eternity as an extended version of Groundhog Day.  

What you believe is similar to Nietzsche’s concept called the eternal recurrence.

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Dark Overlord said
You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but what is your religion, what do you believe in?

Since you asked…

I’m an atheist, but not a preachy one. I can’t stand atheists who bring it up at every flimsy opportunity. I also loathe and detest those Flying Spaghetti Monster people. 

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I belive that beliefs are like a placibo. What someone belives is turned real due to a persons belif.

Like some people worship to heal their wounds and their health improves.

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Necko said

Dark Overlord said
You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but what is your religion, what do you believe in?

Since you asked…

I’m an atheist, but not a preachy one. I can’t stand atheists who bring it up at every flimsy opportunity. I also loathe and detest those Flying Spaghetti Monster people.   

I have more in common with atheists than most other Christians, but I can’t stand when atheists are militant and try to attack me or belittle me.

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I must ask, how did you get to become a Catholic Bishop, you seem like one of those Christians who doesn’t always follow the Bible and some of the things you’ve mentioned on this forum (such as being pro-abortion) supports that claim. Not saying you’re a bad person or a bad Christian, but it is very interesting they chose you to be a bishop out of all people. But then again, considering Pope Francis sometimes goes against the Bible (such as when he claimed that anyone can go to heaven or when he said that it’s ok to be gay), anything’s possible.

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I am a Methodist. Unlike John, here are some things I DO believe in. 

Bible, Jesus, Zimmerman, and of course Beatles. 

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Dark Overlord said
I must ask, how did you get to become a Catholic Bishop, you seem like one of those Christians who doesn’t always follow the Bible and some of the things you’ve mentioned on this forum (such as being pro-abortion) supports that claim. Not saying you’re a bad person or a bad Christian, but it is very interesting they chose you to be a bishop out of all people. But then again, considering Pope Francis sometimes goes against the Bible (such as when he claimed that anyone can go to heaven or when he said that it’s ok to be gay), anything’s possible.  

I’m not Roman Catholic, that’s how. There are all kinds of Christians. Not all of them are conservative or judgmental.

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Necko said

Dark Overlord said
You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but what is your religion, what do you believe in?

Since you asked…

I’m an atheist, but not a preachy one. I can’t stand atheists who bring it up at every flimsy opportunity. I also loathe and detest those Flying Spaghetti Monster people.   

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I am a Methodist. Unlike John, here are some things I DO believe in. 

Bible, Jesus, Zimmerman, and of course Beatles.   

I was raised Methodist.

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I like Methodism. It has a good mix of tradition and progressiveness, at least at my church, although nationally there are certainly issues as an organization including all people in ministry.

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I was born Catholic and was proper Catholic until I was about 12ish when cracks began to appear in my beliefs and then by 15 I was agnostic, 16 I was atheist and have been since. 

Seeing as I still live with the Catholic parents (well my mam is, my dad isn’t) I go to any of the big celebrations (like I’ll be going to Easter mass on Sunday) but it’s pure lip service, I don’t believe in anything.

 

I don’t care if other people have beliefs- do whatever the heck you want, but what does annoy me is when State & Church are intertwined as they are in Ireland (and if any one wants me to rant on that, feel free to ask). 

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I like Methodism. It has a good mix of tradition and progressiveness, at least at my church, although nationally there are certainly issues as an organization including all people in ministry.  

I liked it better in the 1970’s and 80’s before they started using screens where they project hymn lyrics instead of using the hymnals. I also don’t like how they show little movies or photographs on the screen during the service. I don’t like when churches try to contemporize at all. I prefer liturgy and tradition (but when it comes to theology, I’m quite heretical).

My father was a Methodist minister.

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I go to church with a fantastic choir and organist, one of the most important female ministers as the pastor, where we use hymnals and not screens. Its progressive in a good way. 

One thing I’ve realized is that churches of the same denomination can be drastically different.

My grandfather was also a Methodist minister. He baptized me.

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Some of my heretical beliefs (I guess I should say non-beliefs):

I don’t believe Jesus is the only Son of God .

I don’t believe in hell.

I don’t believe in an afterlife.

I don’t believe Jesus died for my sins.

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I go to church with a fantastic choir and organist, one of the most important female ministers as the pastor, where we use hymnals and not screens. Its progressive in a good way. 

One thing I’ve realized is that churches of the same denomination can be drastically different.

My grandfather was also a Methodist minister. He baptized me.  

I was baptized as an infant (indoors), but when I grew older I wanted to be dunked in a river, so I asked my father to do that, and he agreed.

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^I once got told off by my religion teacher because I said I wouldn’t baptise any kid I might have at birth. I think you should decide your own beliefs not have them pushed on you because you’re more likely to reject it in the future.

 

Yeah she was not impressed and practically ignored me for the rest of my secondary school years, lovely lady, a really good accepting Catholic ahdn_paul_01

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Some of my heretical beliefs (I guess I should say non-beliefs):

I don’t believe Jesus is the only Son of God .

I don’t believe in hell.

I don’t believe in an afterlife.

I don’t believe Jesus died for my sins.  

I understand the great amount of love shown by God by sacrificing Jesus, who I believe is the only human ever conceived by the holy spirit, however I don’t quite get how Jesus’s death and suffering has anything to do with my sins.

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Some of my heretical beliefs (I guess I should say non-beliefs):

I don’t believe Jesus is the only Son of God .

I don’t believe in hell.

I don’t believe in an afterlife.

I don’t believe Jesus died for my sins.  

I understand the great amount of love shown by God by sacrificing Jesus, who I believe is the only human ever conceived by the holy spirit, however I don’t quite get how Jesus’s death and suffering has anything to do with my sins.  

The idea is that the wages of sin is death, and Jesus is like the passover lamb sacrificed for us so that death will pass us by.

The problem I have with that and all other such notions is that I find them morbid and barbaric. I think it is more beneficial to focus on our glorious union with God than on our supposed unworthiness.

Also, some say that Jesus was sacrificed as a ransom paid to Satan, and this basically makes God look 1. Powerless before Satan and 2. Like a big jerk, because who would kill their own son (or order someone else to kill their own son)?

I can accept that he made the world and the world did not recognize him or welcome him. But my sins are my own business, and while I do believe a priest can absolve me of sins, I am not free from the consequences of my sins. Jesus does not walk the path for me, I have to do it myself.

In my tradition, we teach that God is portrayed as jealous and barbaric in the Old Testament because its writers were jealous and barbaric. God presents himself in a new way to mankind in each age, according to the level of spiritual evolution mankind has reached. (Therefore, the Bible is divinely inspired, but fallible).

Also, I believe that Jesus, Christ, and Jesus Christ are three different things (a historical man, the 2nd person of the Trinity, and the union of the two).

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I believe in God however God and I have issues which no Christian i know can answer – and i have asked. I was a born-again Christian for a handful of years, baptised etc, and maybe i still am, but am no longer walking in the righteous path. I also have a number of issues with the Church, for instance being told what to do by a man who is no better than I or how so much uttered is clichéd scripture with zero actual insight into the situation aside from its vague similarity to. Give me honestly not some token remembered verse. The church issues are small compared to my larger stand-off with God however. 

The church i was part of fell apart after i left. When i left it was falling apart and was filled with folk praising one another to their faces yet stabbing them in the gut as soon as they turned their back. 

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