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@AppleScruffJunior  Great poem! Never came across that one. Pretty good translation.

gettingbetter said
What do you guys think about modern day feminism. Personally for me, this pisses me off because it seems like modern day feminism is just women bitching and moaning because they think they lack rights and try to make all white adult human straight non-disabled males seem like perverts. Now don’t make me seem rude here, women don’t have to be slaves to their husband, doing all of the cooking and cleaning while the husband works, I don’t mind women being in the workforce or being allowed to vote or writing a film or whatever and classic feminism is fine but I just can’t agree with modern day feminism, but I would like to hear what you guys think?

Ok, first the things I might agree with you on: Sometimes equal right movements that were created to preserve the rights of a minority A tend to discriminate against the majority B because the minority A is getting so much support that it is privileged. This happens in some cases ( for example PE teachers giving every girl at least one grade better because they are so weak is a bit exaggerated). But you are talking about modern day feminism in general in a very insulting way and that is just not appropriate in my opinion because first of all women are still paid less in many countries even in the so-called Western world and after all women have to give birth and are therefore already constrained by nature concerning their working force, so summed up you cannot pretend feminism isn’t needed anymore.

Additionally, I have never in my life met a modern day feminist who was behaving in the way you described it, they might sometimes prefer women to men and that’s unfair towards men I admit, but these are individual events and not the usual happening and their occurrence is also not linked with the movement ‘feminism’ but rather with individual human beings who make mistakes.

So please think about it again, stop insulting people, consider that probably what you have experienced (if you have experienced something bad) is not the fault of modern day feminism but of individuals who maybe took it too far and be a bit more tolerant and respectful towards other opinions and movements because often a topic is not that one-sided you can describe it like you did.

And if you respect feminists, we may even listen to you when you have factual critic with our methods.

Thank you all for you unwillingness to hear ideas, trying to suppress viewpoints that don’t agree with your own, and an overall lack of tolerance and respect for someone’s opinions.
Now I’m getting the hell outta here.

Starr Shine? said
If you want to make an argument about this subject, you can and I’ll try and hear you out.

I find there is a problem now a days with echo chambers where people seek and stick themselfs only in places that parrot what they already think.  

If this was directed at me… If I make an argument on my opinion, that’s like tying myself behind a horse and then telling the rider to go. No matter how strong my argument could be, I will end up bloody and beaten when the horse stops dragging me.