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Annadog40 said
I dislike it when people judge music before they even hear it. like when people say all modern music is bad with out listening to any modern music. There are other examples with other things.
I kind of agree, except that I am pretty sure now that I will dislike any rap song before I hear it. I have tried and tried, seen Jay-Z live and on it goes – but have not found one song in the whole genre that I don’t dislike intensely.
It’s in my head, that rap is crap, my taste is dead, I need a slap, if one more girl, plays that there stuff, I’m gonna hurl, I’ve had enough.
Set that to an annoying drum and techno beat, throw in a few more inane profanities – and I gets me a grammy 
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Offline ^ RAP is a disgrace to music ! It hardly ever gives a positive message, it’s mostly about women, drugs and alcohol.
There is some music which has its roots in rap, sounds good but I would listen to pure Country music than rap.
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^ RAP is a disgrace to music ! It hardly ever gives a positive message, it’s mostly about women, drugs and alcohol.
The same could be said (and has been said) of rock. There’s quite a bit of politically conscious rap out there, you can’t paint the entire genre with a wide brush.
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Hey Jude ! said
^ RAP is a disgrace to music ! It hardly ever gives a positive message, it’s mostly about women, drugs and alcohol.The same could be said (and has been said) of rock. There’s quite a bit of politically conscious rap out there, you can’t paint the entire genre with a wide brush.
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Possibly, but from what I hear on the radio Rap is more consistently disgraceful than rock ever was. That said, I have no issue with the genre or those who enjoy it, it’s just not my cup of tea (or coffee, or glass of scotch, or …).
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I’m gonna agree with @parlance. I don’t really listen to rap, but I don’t think the entirety of the genre can be summed up as a negative influence. Just a few days ago I watched a documentary on N.W.A which really got me thinking about rap.
Rap (at least as the group used it) was ironic social commentary used to point out real injustices that were occurring at the time. Everyone either didn’t know about the issues or turned a blind eye, and this was a method of spreading awareness. If you take some (many) of the songs at face value they seem negative, but in context it’s easy to tell that it was supposed to sound that way in order to make a positive impact. (I hope this is making sense.)
Now if you break down these lyrics from Express Yourself:
…they kill where the hiphop starts,
Forget about the ghetto
And rap for the pop charts.
Some musicians curse at home
But scared to use profanity
When up on the microphone.
Yeah, they want reality.
But you won’t hear none.
They rather exaggerate, a little fiction.
Some say no to drugs and take a stand,
But after the show they go lookin’ for the dopeman.
Or they ban my group from the radio.
Hear NWA and say “Hell no!”.
But you know it ain’t all about wealth.
As long as you make a note to…Express Yourself…
The first section is calling out those rappers you wouldn’t like, those who think what they’re saying is real, but isn’t for a cause, just to sell records. They repeat the irony but say it seriously for popularity therefore spreading a negative message. (If you follow.)
The second section is actually against drugs if you if you pay attention, as was the line from earlier in the song, “I still express, yo, I don’t smoke weed or a sess. Cause its known to give a brother brain damage. And brain damage on the mic don’t manage Nuthin’ But makin’ a sucker and you equal.”
The last part shows that their main goal was to spread a message and make a positive difference. And of course to encourage those to express themselves!
Plus the song has a great (sampled) bassline! 
I don’t want to support or denounce current rap, I’m not really a fan. However, one of the most iconic/influential rap groups was, in my opinion, attempting to start a positive trend, so that means all rap can’t be bad.
Yes, I just went on a rant supporting rap. Don’t hold it against me later… 
I’ll find the documentary if anyone’s interested.
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I’ll find the documentary if anyone’s interested.I would be, thanks!
parlance
Here you go! It’s narrated by Chris Rock too, which is just the cherry on top.
Very interesting.
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Offline Hey Jude ! said
^ RAP is a disgrace to music ! It hardly ever gives a positive message, it’s mostly about women, drugs and alcohol.There is some music which has its roots in rap, sounds good but I would listen to pure Country music than rap.
Im sorry if I offended someome. Sorry. I also said somethin’ positive about rap, I don’t Hate rap but I think it’s a poor, a very poor version of rock music (alright here take 80/90’s rock music which was changing negatively somehow), lyrically what a piece of crap, doesn’t matter how much nice lyrics are but rap vocals damage it. People who listen to Bob Dylan (currently listening to him, haha) will understand what is the beauty of lyrics.
Good Rock is still on radio but isn’t as great as classic, but rock isn’t violent in nature, examples
Radioactive- Imagine Dragons
R U Mine- Arctic Monkeys
Counting Stars – One Republic
Magic – Coldplay
Take Me To The Church – Hozier (hope i wrote his name correctly, correct me if wrong)
^They maybe a mix of Pop & Rock but RAP on radio is horrible (ear-bleeding) there exist some nice rap- hip hop music but you have to search for it and teens don’t do so. Rap a bad influence
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^They maybe a mix of Pop & Rock but RAP on radio is horrible (ear-bleeding) there exist some nice rap- hip hop music but you have to search for it and teens don’t do so. Rap a bad influence
They say that about every kind of music ever.
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I don’t Hate rap but I think it’s a poor, a very poor version of rock music
It sounds like you need to take a class on the history of popular music. Rap didn’t evolve from rock.
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Hey Jude ! said
^They maybe a mix of Pop & Rock but RAP on radio is horrible (ear-bleeding) there exist some nice rap- hip hop music but you have to search for it and teens don’t do so. Rap a bad influence
They say that about every kind of music ever.
Yep.
Did you read *any* of Mr. Kite’s comment, Hey Jude ?
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Offline @Hey Jude ! I can see why you think the way you do, but that’s what I was explaining in my above post. If you take some things at face value they may seem to be a negative influence until you understand the context.
Once again, I don’t really listen to rap (although I think I’m gonna start exploring early rap now), but I’m just remaining objective.
You’re definitely entitled to your viewpoint, but if you watch that video you might change your mind a little.
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Offline “I’m gonna agree with @parlance. I don’t really listen to rap, but I don’t think the entirety of the genre can be summed up as a negative influence. Just a few days ago I watched a documentary on N.W.A which really got me thinking about rap.
Rap (at least as the group used it) was ironic social commentary used to point out real injustices that were occurring at the time. Everyone either didn’t know about the issues or turned a blind eye, and this was a method of spreading awareness.”
I think that use of ‘everyone’ is a bit much.
Sorry to have started something I didn’t intend – I just don’t like the music – the same goes for a lot of dissonant classical music.
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Discovering the buses to Glasgow for today (its the 2nd as i type) are all off, not even a Sunday service.
Crazy stuff that – not great for people with no car. Even on Christmas Day here we had a Sunday bus service (and it was free as a Chrissie gift from the council). My son and I caught a bus on Boxing Day and it was pretty full.
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Sorry to have started something I didn’t intend – I just don’t like the music – the same goes for a lot of dissonant classical music.
I don’t think you started it. And for the record, I’m not keen on most hiphop, and I don’t care what people like or dislike. But it is an art form same as rock, and I took issue with the sweeping statements denigrating it.
Frankly, I find those statements kind of weird on a Beatles board, considering their music was once subject to the same type of judgments.
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“I’m gonna agree with @parlance. I don’t really listen to rap, but I don’t think the entirety of the genre can be summed up as a negative influence. Just a few days ago I watched a documentary on N.W.A which really got me thinking about rap.
Rap (at least as the group used it) was ironic social commentary used to point out real injustices that were occurring at the time. Everyone either didn’t know about the issues or turned a blind eye, and this was a method of spreading awareness.”
I think that use of ‘everyone’ is a bit much.
Sorry to have started something I didn’t intend – I just don’t like the music – the same goes for a lot of dissonant classical music.
I didn’t mean that absolutely no one knew about the issues, that was just how I happened to write that sentence. I don’t think you started anything, and I’m not arguing with anyone, just presenting a valid point. As I said I see why Hey Jude said what he did and believe everyone can feel however they want. 
Once again, I don’t really listen to the genre either, this was just something on my mind recently that I thought would add to the discussion.
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People who don’t take down their Christmas decorations once the holiday is over.
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Unless of course they are just getting a head start on next Christmas.
There you go, @Zig! I’m back to normal…
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