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Some guitar related pet peeves:

Guitars are my pet peeve at times, I think they are over used at the expense of other instruments and I find songs that are just a guy and a guitar with nothing else rarely good.

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As a guitar player, I kind of agree. Male singer songwriters can get boring and mopey. I only really enjoy listening to creative guitarists who do something different, rather than your typical rock guitarist. 

A pet peeve for me in music has to be the use of children’s voices. In wayyyy too many songs they have these ultra cheesy children’s choirs singing the hook and it’s just awful. Example: Let’s Dance To Joy Division by The Wombats. Great song, until it gets to the bridge.

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I just hate the sound of children singing in general. 

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Starr Shine? said
Guitars are my pet peeve at times, I think they are over used at the expense of other instruments and I find songs that are just a guy and a guitar with nothing else rarely good.

It depends on the genre, rock music revolves around guitars, metal music revolves around guitars so much that i can’t think of a single metal song that doesn’t use a guitar (Changes doesn’t count, just because it’s from a metal band doesn’t mean it’s metal). On the contrary, i think modern pop music could use more guitars, i’ll take an acoustic or electric guitar any day over sampling and i think that classical music needs more guitar in it.

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I hate it when people sing Bohemian Rhapsody. I also hate the song.

It’s the opera section that kills it for me, i quite enjoy the mama and rock sections though.

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It depends on the genre, rock music revolves around guitars, metal music revolves around guitars so much that i can’t think of a single metal song that doesn’t use a guitar (Changes doesn’t count, just because it’s from a metal band doesn’t mean it’s metal). On the contrary, i think modern pop music could use more guitars, i’ll take an acoustic or electric guitar any day over sampling and i think that classical music needs more guitar in it.

I disagree, a guitar is fine with support like a guitar with drums, piano and other such things.

But guitar and singing only is dull more often than not.

Honestly, I would like to see more experimentation with diffrent types of instruments, so many out there that get overshadowed.

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I agree, some songs that are just vocals and guitar feel too stripped for me, although some of those like Blackbird are great to listen to.

Anyways, some songs should use more obscure instruments like sitar or clavichord or maybe even a bass saxophone.

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I think using a big variety of instruments can come across as pretentious and snobby however.. 

For me I would like to see people taking advantage of musical tricks to make their music sound more interesting. Some examples:

Use of different time signatures and polyrhythm. Too many songs are in 4/4 with the bass drum on the 1+3/2+4 beats. I would like to hear more rhythmic variety.

Use of different scales/modes. It’s possible to make a very exotic sounding song without using exotic instruments just by using different scales for example a typical Indian scale which uses 1,2,4,5,7,8 of a key. 

Use of dischord – using accidentals makes a piece very interesting to listen to, and too many artists feel the need to stay precisely within the set key.

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I have no issues on the instrumentation of a song, unless it does nothing to contribute to the song or actively detriments it. 

Instruments should only be chosen based on the requirements of the song. Blackbird for example could only ever be an acoustic ballad in my mind. 

My main irk with a lot of songs is their lack of creativity and artistry. This constitutes nearly all chart music since most of the songs are written by songwriting teams. Some great albums have been written by songwriting teams though, take What’s Going On for example. 

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I think using a big variety of instruments can come across as pretentious and snobby however.. 

Funny, I’m of a diffrent mind on this.

Another pet peeve is the folks on youtube amd other places who go “I’m 13 and I like ‘incert old band here’ and not this dimb pop!”

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In the right hands (e.g the Beatles) instrumental variety is a great thing and adds a lot of colour and flavour to the sound. But far too many bands e.g Guns N Roses just use whole orchestras to make themselves seem ‘artistic’. 

Not getting at you here, @Starr Shine? , but at this stage the people complaining about those people have become more annoying than the original commenters. 

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I used to be one of those people who hated on pop (chart music), until I realized people are entitled to their musical opinions and that there’s plenty of good pop out there. 

Every genre has good and bad music, even rock. 

Those YouTubers are entitled to their opinions I guessa-hard-days-night-paul-10

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I used to be one of those people who hated on pop (chart music), until I realized people are entitled to their musical opinions and that there’s plenty of good pop out there. 

Every genre has good and bad music, even rock. 

Those YouTubers are entitled to their opinions I guessa-hard-days-night-paul-10  

Replace that ‘even’ with ‘especially’. There is a lot of absolutely dire rock music. 

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When I’m interrupted whilst playing guitar to do something I was supposed to do already. It’s twice as annoying as an unjustified interruption, because I have no right to complain about it! a-hard-days-night-paul-10

I kind of have to agree that guitars are overrated, even though I love them with my soul. I think bass guitars are some of the coolest instruments in rock and pop, and you’d be surprised how versatile they can be.

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I love guitars but i’m glad that not every genre uses them. 

One of my pet peeves is show off ‘shred’ guitarists. No you don’t need to play a 10 minute lightning bolt solo, nobodies impressed aside from your own ego.

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On the opposite end, someone who just keeps playing the same boring predictable chords for 3 minuets is also bad.

Guitars are very popular, u gotta make em pop and do something special. I quite like when people do slap guitar or find an interesting way to use a guitar.

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I have to agree with you there @Starr Shine? i hate it when bands always use predictable chords and predictable progressions such as I, iii, IV, V, and vi. That’s one of the things i love about The Beatles, they used a lot of interesting chords like the minor 4th on so many songs and their progressions are great.

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I have to agree with you there @Starr Shine? i hate it when bands always use predictable chords and predictable progressions such as I, iii, IV, V, and vi. That’s one of the things i love about The Beatles, they used a lot of interesting chords like the minor 4th on so many songs and their progressions are great.  

I don’t think it’s always a bad thing though. Take the whole punk ethic for example with bands like the Ramones, the Sex Pistols etc. 

They used simple chords effectively. 

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The Beatles also are masters of writing simplistic songs. Take Imagine , its not the complexity of the chords but the song itself that makes it good. 

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Many songs on John Lennon /PLastic Ono Band also use very simple chords and additionally very basic instrumentation. Take for example Mother or Working Class Hero , correct me if I’m wrong, but both songs use only three different chords. Mother consists of a very basic drumming pattern and the bass mostly plays on the first beat with an upbeat. The piano plays a bit more often but also only chords which are mostly on the beat. Despite the structure being very simple on all levels, this song is incredibly intense and moving. The same goes for working class hero. John didn’t need any super complicated theory to transport his emotions and powerful messages to the listener because everything he does sounds so natural and right.

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Pet peeve at the moment: That bloody Despacito song which has been No.1 on the UK charts for like 200 years now. I don’t even think it deserves the title ‘song of the summer’. Apologies if anyone does like this song, but I personally find it plain annoying.

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